Food Deserts, a Problem of Supply or Demand?

Richmond area food deserts. (Click on map for more legible image.)

by James A. Bacon

Why do people get obese? One widely circulated explanation is that many Virginians, poor people especially, live in “food deserts” — places where they do not have access to grocery stores that provide fresh, healthy food. Deprived of choice, these unfortunates get their food wherever they can, such as fast food chains, convenience stores and corner markets where fresh fruits and vegetables are unavailable. In this view, many obese people are victims. The problem isn’t people’s lack of discipline or will power, in this view, it’s the unwillingness of grocery stores to locate in their neighborhoods.

Is that accurate? Is obesity really the fault of uncaring corporate grocery store chains that discriminate against poor neighborhoods? Put in terms that an economist could appreciate, are food deserts caused by supply-side restrictions on nutritious food.. or by insufficient demand for it?

The U.S. Department of Agriculture defines a food desert as a low-income census tract where a substantial number of residents have low access (more than one mile from a grocery store in urban areas, 10 miles in rural areas) and has identified 6,529 such tracts (out of 172,772) in the continental U.S. USDA also has published a food desert locator tool so you can find the food deserts near you.

Fortunately for Bacon’s Rebellion readers, Susan Clapp has done all the hard work for us, making the Virginia data accessible through the Weldon Cooper Center’s Demographics & Workforce blog. She loaded the Virginia data on this map, color coding urban deserts in red and rural deserts in tan.  The graphic at the top of this post was captured from that map.

According to Clapp, USDA has identified 325,000 Virginians, or roughly 5% of the population, as having low access to grocery stores. But 26.4% of the Old Dominion’s population is obese, according to Virginia Performs data. Clearly, food deserts can account for only a small part of the problem, if any at all. If four out of five obese Virginians live in proximity to grocery stores, ready access to fruit and vegetables is not the problem.

The problem can’t be blamed upon insufficient education. Kids learn about good nutrition in school, and they get bombarded with media messages and public service announcements throughout their lives. Everybody knows how to keep the weight off. They just don’t exercise the discipline and will power to do it. People choose to spend their money on processed and packaged foods that are tasty and easy to prepare.

If poor people really wanted fresh food, entrepreneurs would meet the demand. Indeed, most food deserts are served by corner stores and convenience stores that stock foodstuffs that people purchase in small quantities. When I lived in Church Hill many moons ago, I patronized such a store, a Korean-owned corner shop with a small vegetable section in the back. The store did sell fruit and vegetables, although I must say they did not look terribly appetizing.

I suppose you could argue that no one wants buy wilting vegetables, so we shouldn’t blame the poor people of Church Hill for their lousy nutrition. Here’s my response to that: If poor people living in food deserts are truly under-served by the marketplace, an opportunity exists for enterprising do-gooders to meet the latent demand for fresh food. Go for it. Open your own corner store. Stock it with fresh fruits and vegetables and charge a fair price. Let’s see how long you stay in business.


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  1. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Unfortunately, it is the standard Bacon debating approach:

    (1) You set up a straw man such as this comment:

    “One widely circulated explanation is that many Virginians, poor people especially, live in “food deserts” — places where they do not have access to grocery stores that provide fresh, healthy food. Deprived of choice, these unfortunates get their food wherever they can, such as fast food chains, convenience stores and corner markets where fresh fruits and vegetables are unavailable. In this view, many obese people are victims.”

    “Widely circulated? “By whom? You mean Kroger and Food Lion are striving to keep the “underclass” obese? You really shouldn’t try to get away with the unsubstantiated arguments, Jim.

    (2) New data shows under served markets. Guess what? They overlay exactly where some of Richmond’s biggest public housing projects are. How many Whole Food stores are there? How many times do you see residents from these areas struggling with lots of grocery bags on RTA buses because they have to take public transit miles to the bigger stores where they can get better choices at lower prices. Maybe, Jim, you should take some to ride some of these buses and actually TALK to the “under class” instead of relying on some other data wonk’s student. Did I say “shoe leather journalism?”

    (3) Since we don’t bother with real reporting, we go to the catch-all solution — the wonderful free market. If these people really wanted to eat healthy, the wonderful free market would provide, presto, Libertarian style.
    Problem is, see Point Two. And please, next time, try to actually do your own research instead of reading yet another study that tends to support your biases. Then we get the Church of the Free Market.
    Thanks!

    1. What? You think I’m making this up? The U.S. Department of Agriculture conducted the study. And check this out. Michelle Obama and the White House have made a big deal about food deserts as part of her anti-obesity initiative.

      Is Michelle Obama a straw man?

      Try Googling “food desert.” You’ll find Time, Slate, the Huffington Post all writing about food deserts — and that’s just on the first page of results.

      Shoe leather journalism is fine, but it’s inherently anecdotal. Journalists can pick and choose facts to support their theories — and they do, all the time. To dig to the bottom of an issue like this requires more than journalism. It requires social science.

  2. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    You could starve to death eating at McDonald’s every day. However, you’d have to eat a steady regimen of diet soda, black coffee and various salads.

    Are there any McDonald’s in these so-called “food deserts”?

    If so, there are plenty of healthy choices.

    Being poor sucks. Poor people face many challenges that middle class and wealthy people don’t face. However, the idea that there are NO options for healthy food is a real stretch.

    http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/full_menu_explorer.html

    1. Good point, Don. Maybe I should conduct a little “shoe leather journalism” and see what how many people order salads at McDonalds versus the number who order an Extra Large helping of fries.

  3. larryg Avatar

    I’m respectful of the efforts put forth by folks at Weldon Cooper but obesity is not a problem with Food Deserts and this sounds like yet another liberal apologist approach to why we don’t practice personal responsibility anymore.

    Everything is “caused” by something beyond our own selves AND it’s up to the govt and corporations to fix it.

    I get called a libtard here in BR from time to time but I’m socially liberal and fiscally conservative and I’m really big on personal responsibility as well as locality/regional responsibility.

    We’re a rich country. Our poorest people have it better than most 3rd world people who quite literally live in food deserts and are more concerned with getting enough to eat even if it’s not the best and we in this country can’t resist delving into these really silly concepts that basically relieve everyone of having any personal responsibility and that’s it’s “not their fault that they are obese and can’t find “good” food”.

    come on guys… I given Bacon credit for giving a forum to talk about the issue but of all the problems we have in the world and in this country – this is worse than a gnat on a dogs butt!

  4. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Bacon,
    Yes, getting onto the street and away from basement wonkery would be far more valuable to you and is not merely “anecdotal” (what a put down!)

    For someone who knows Richmond, you might remember that one reason food stores don’t locate in the poor areas is that they don’t get the mark-ups they can elsewhere. They can’t get the enough real estate generally in poor urban areas to get the volume or the pick of high and low prices to make it work.

    Remember Johnny Johnson and Community Pride store. He is an African-American guy who worked with the Ukrop family to build a few stories in ghetto areas. It didn’t turn out well as Johnson ended up suing food wholesalers in a complicated mess.

    What you don’t acknowledge is WHY food stores offering more do not locate in such areas. You set up your straw man and go right for the Libertarian KO. Won’t work with me, buddy. Try your Tae Kwon Do!

    And spare me the Calvinist responsiblity BS. As the Russians say: “It ees SOOO Protestant!”

  5. accurate Avatar
    accurate

    When I moved to Houston I spent two years living in an apartment that put me close to work. Of course, not knowing Houston, I didn’t know when I rented it that the location was not high on the ‘want-to-live-there’ list. While it surely wasn’t the ghetto and while our exposure to bugs and nasty critters was minimal, our various neighbors (to me) were a wonderful example of people living off the government and/or living on the ragged edge just making it from month to month. I witnessed night after night after night of people bringing home take-out for their dinners; and it didn’t take much imagination to guess that breakfast and lunch were similar. I saw it night after night not only for the adults but feeding their kids this way too.

    Did I live in a food desert? Um, not really, depending upon what you wanted, there were two very good, very extensive (meaning LOTS of choices) grocery stores within two miles of the apartments. Please note, 99% of these folks had cars and used them, I witnessed the majority of the take-out meals as they got out of their cars and headed towards their apartments. The majority of these folks also appeared to smoke and drink, it’s their choice but it does speak to where they spend their money.

    This general area also had a very high incidence of stores (of all kinds) that closed and typically it was due to high shoplifting (this information I got from employees when I would find out that a store was closing, I’d ask why).

    The home that I moved to is 35 miles away, I am in the MOST diverse city in the US (a small suburb outside Houston) with neighbors of all races and ethnicities; and I don’t see the same kind of behavior here. Sorry Peter, some people are just plain scum and no amount of money thrown at them, no amount of education offered to them, no amount of opportunity laid out in front of them will get them to change. As long as your priority is smokes and beer for the evening; as long as you don’t see an issue with your friend, your child or possibly yourself shoplifting, then these people will continue to bounce along the bottom rungs of society. When spending time in jail, or having a baby (or babies) out of wedlock or working a job just long enough to collect unemployment is okay, then you (and people who think like that) will continue to be on the bottom end of society. They exist, they are even proud of it and they run legitimate businesses away.

    Yes Larry, it IS about personal responsibility or as I witnessed in these folks a severe lack of it. John Stossel recently did a report where they asked folks waiting to collect unemployment benefits if there were any jobs out there – no way he was told. Yet within 2 miles of the unemployment office Stossel and crew found SEVERAL jobs – oh, but these weren’t living wage jobs or they weren’t the kind of job I do or I want. Nonsense, when I was out of work I applied for everything. I got turned down at a local Target, at a Borders books and at two temporary work agencies being told that I was too over-qualified. I wasn’t asking for a particular wage, I was willing to work for whatever they would pay me. I knew life would be tough of minimum wage or whatever, but I knew I could do it and eventually I would work my way back up. And Larry, for the record, I’ve never considered your arguments to be fiscally conservative.

  6. Richard Avatar

    The implication of the article is that 1. so-called food deserts aren’t anything to be concerned about, and 2. fat people, poor people (whatever) are to blame because they aren’t responsible.

    1. A food desert is a problem. It’s a problem for the people who live there. Why aren’t the stores there? Because there’s not enough money to be made there by the chains. Is it a problem for “society”? Depends on what you think your responsibilities are to others. If someone (say a child) gets fat and can’t do well at school, can’t get a job, and gets sick, whose responsibility is that? What is the solution? Our solution now is for the government to support them, fail to educate them, allow fast-food chains to make money off them, and pay for their emergency room bills. Let the cycle deepen.

    2. It is their fault. Partly. But it’s ours too – a legacy of neglect, exploitation, disinterest, and rationalization. It’s easier to blame than to help sometimes.

  7. larryg Avatar

    As Accurate pointed out…back in the day….. you took personal responsibility to improve your own life – and to avoid behavior that would degrade your life.

    It may not have been easy. The cards might have been stacked against you but you plugged away at it. Now… it’s someone’s else’s fault – the evil corporates who won’t put a store where demographics are not right and that is “exploiting” people.

    As Accurate, pointed out, he does not consider me a Conservative and in fact, I have no use at all for many Conservatives… these days because I consider them fiscally irresponsible, have put us in the fiscal mess we are now in, but I digress…

    we DO have a welfare mentality here and it has caused and is causing a significant backlash that has become basically a culture war – in part – because of the idea that someone govt and corporations are responsible …check that… MORE responsible for helping people than they are themselves.

    I’d rather eat a 3-day old dead frog than agree with anything Stossel has to spew from his face… but the fact of the matter is – he has a point on some of these things – and more important – he resonates with a lot of people including folks like Accurate – who do vote and who will put in a totally GOP government if they can – in part because – we make excuses for people who won’t take personal responsibility and expect the govt to take care of them.

    GAWD.. I sound like a hidebound wackadoo…. 🙂

  8. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    Gotta say I am getting a little lost here.

    There are no grocery stores because ….

    1. Poor people wouldn’t buy food at a grocery store if they were available
    2. Poor people shoplift too much
    3. It’s a conspiracy of grocers to keep poor people fat
    4. Grocers can’t make enough money to make the stores profitable

    Of these, only #4 seems to make much sense. So, what stores do exist in these areas of Richmond? Are there shoe stores? Fast food restaurants? Hardware stores? Or, is it really a “store desert”. You see, I can’t understand why poor people would be so poor that they can’t afford to pay for groceries but have enough money to buy other things – like shoes. So, I assume there are no stores. Am I right?

    Are there also “food deserts” in poor rural areas? If not, why not?

  9. larryg Avatar

    well.. it’s not only that there are food deserts… it’s that because there are, people have no choice but to get fat as a result.

    the whole concept is bizarre. It would be like arguing that because there are no hardware stores people have to buy bad tools which cause injury or because there are no shoe stores people have no choice but to wear homemade sandals made out of tire carcasses and as a result get foot disease.

    It’s things like this that make liberals look like idiots.

    this is why the GOP wins elections.

  10. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    You know, I thought maybe I was being too hard on this post, but then I went back and reread what Jim Bacon said:

    ” If poor people living in food deserts are truly under-served by the marketplace, an opportunity exists for enterprising do-gooders to meet the latent demand for fresh food. Go for it. Open your own corner store. Stock it with fresh fruits and vegetables and charge a fair price. Let’s see how long you stay in business.”

    The last sentence is so rude. Screw the poor? Not part one of the 1 percent, eh Jim?

    1. Put your money where your mouth is!

  11. larryg Avatar

    I remember back in the day when people felt like the local super markets were not carrying what they wanted and so what did they do? They formed a food cooperative. I also know of community food pantry’s that provide nutritious canned, boxed, and fresh produce.

    Communities of people can act together to make their communities better instead of blaming others and expecting the govt or others to fix it.

    The govt, and even corporations bless their pea-picking souls will even provide grants and funding for community-based self-help organizations.

    I note the local food pantry is driving Ford trucks donated for that purpose. SNAP now will pay for farmers market food. Neighbors can group up in one car and take a shopping trip. You can have community gardens.

    There are many different ways for people to help their own cause here.

  12. Darrell Avatar

    Do you people ever get out into the world? Ever visit stores where they block grocery carts from leaving the store to keep em from turning into mobile homes? Did you ever compare the prices in those stores and find that it’s cheaper to go to an upscale ‘organic’ place instead? Ever make the mad dash between the door and your car, or a mile long lonely hike through no mans land with a full grocery bag? Did you ever notice that most of those shoppers are not obese?

    Your first clue that this article is bunk is West Virginia. They are the most obese state in America. And Peter should have been able to tell you that almost everyone there has a vegetable garden, a shotgun, and a fishing pole. When I grew up there I knew maybe two people who were more than plump. One was the local banker and the other ran the county paper. The rest were farmers, loggers, rail workers or miners. Once again you all try to make things too hard.

  13. accurate Avatar
    accurate

    Larry, get back on your meds, it’s scary when you agree with me. Besides we all know, just ask Peter, that people can’t possibly help themselves, that’s obviously what government is for – sheesh.

    DJ – actually #2 and#4 are true and your number 4 is in a great way caused by number 2.

    Darrell – I certainly can’t speak for Virginia, but when I was living on the poor side of town in Houston we actually had some pretty GOOD priced grocery stores (within that 2 mile radius). One is Foodtown which caters to the Hispanic population. I always found their produce to be the freshest, with a HUGE variety and their prices among the lowest (and believe me, I shop around). Another chain here that, again caters to the Hispanic population is Fiesta, again, they have everything any Kroger or Safeway would have but again, they have very low, low prices.

    Just a note of surprise here locally in Houston. We do have Krogers, but here Safeway is called Randells, no idea why, all the same ‘house brand’ labels that I’m use to seeing in Safeway but they just don’t use the name. In Portland, Albertsons was also a fairly large player, they don’t exist down here. A local player here in Texas is HEB and you pronounce the name as each letter, when I referred to it as heb (using the word instead of pronouncing each letter individually) they all looked at me and had no idea where I was talking about. Oh, and despite being the 4th largest city in Texas, we really don’t have any 7-11 stores, there are like 4 independently owned 7-11’s in all of Houston. In Portland there was one every 5 miles, I think it was a law, those and Starbucks stores, gads there are scads of them in Portland too.

  14. larryg Avatar

    re: Safeway and Walmart

    Since Accurate brought it up – in our last tour of the Northwest – we observed that Safeway is going great guns ( but no so much in the East as it used to) but the most curious thing is that we found many WalMarts that did not carry fresh meats and produce and when we stopped to re-supply, we ended up going to Safeway rather than WalMart and also gassed up as many Safeways also sold fuel.

    the point I was trying to make about the politics of things like food deserts and obesity and personal responsibility and food stamps/welfare is that the right is winning this issue with independents because of ridiculous do-gooder concepts like food desserts that “cause” obesity.

    Elections are not won by the bases of either party (unless they stay home). Most elections are decided by the less partisan independents in the middle.

    What the liberals utterly fail to understand is that the explicit strategy of the right is to win over the middle and the way they do that is by appealing to the independents that are opposed to higher taxes, especially taxes given to people who won’t help themselves and especially for really silly things like programs to help the “obese” who live in “food deserts”.

    You could not have a more effective strategy to win the middle and the right is doing that and the left is continuing to pursue these ideas that totally turn off the people in the middle.

    That’s my frustration. The folks on the left are pushing the folks in the middle into the grateful hands of the right by their continued support of these cockamamie ideas for govt spending on people who no longer take personal responsibility for their affairs and blame others.

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