FOIA Council Response on Open Meeting Requirements in Discussions of Local Government Contracts with Public Unions

Courtesy collectivebargaining.com

by  James C. Sherlock

I submitted questions to the Virginia Freedom of Information Advisory Council concerning FOIA open meetings requirements applicable to local government sessions discussing contracts with unions.

I received a very prompt and thorough reply.  

The following is the response of Alan Gernhart, Esq., Executive Director.

My general understanding is that such negotiations would normally be carried out by representatives rather than by the public bodies themselves, and therefore the open meeting rules generally would not come into play until the representative brings a proposal to the public body for its approval. (In other words, the public body’s representative meeting with the union representative normally would not be a “meeting” subject to FOIA since the public body would not be directly involved at that stage.)

Once the public body becomes involved, it appears that there are not any specific exemptions to allow such negotiations or the discussion of such collective bargaining agreements to be held in closed meetings, but there are several exemptions that might apply (at least to some parts of such meetings) depending on the exact nature of the discussions.

For example, subdivision A 1 of § 2.2-3711 allows for the discussion of certain personnel matters concerning identifiable individuals in closed meetings. While it would not apply to collective bargaining negotiations as a whole since such negotiations do not necessarily involve the discussion of individuals, to the extent individual employees were being discussed, it would allow those portions of the discussion to be held in closed meetings.

Similarly, consultation with legal counsel about specific legal matters under subdivision A 8 of § 2.2-3711 would probably apply to much of the discussion, because as you observed in your article, there are likely to be many legal questions involved.

I would also note that there is an exemption concerning the award of public contracts (subdivision A 29 of § 2.2-3711), but the Supreme Court of Virginia has interpreted it to apply to procurement transactions, so it would not cover collective bargaining negotiations outside of the procurement context. (See White Dog Publishing v. Culpeper Co. Bd. of Supervisors (2006) (available here).)

Finally, I did check in Chapter 4 of Title 40.1 concerning Labor Unions, but I did not find anything there addressing the Freedom of Information Act or closed meetings.

Take-aways:

  • Negotiating sessions will not be public meetings unless the public body is involved;
  • School board and city council meetings will need to be structured to accommodate the exceptions to which Mr. Gernhart points. Matters involving individual personnel (unlikely) and consultation with legal counsel (extremely likely) can be held in closed session;
  • Everything else on this subject is an open meeting of both the school boards and city/town/county councils.

They will be must-see TV for residents of communities affected.

I have thanked Mr. Gernhart for all of us, including, I am sure, the public bodies that will be involved.


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9 responses to “FOIA Council Response on Open Meeting Requirements in Discussions of Local Government Contracts with Public Unions”

  1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    In summary, the negotiations will not be open to the public. If members of the governing body are not involved, they don’t have to be open. If the governing bodies take your advice and hire a law firm to assist in the negotiations, then meetings in which the governing body is involved can be closed due to their consulting with counsel on legal matters.

    1. Oh, sure, they write a one-shot story, and then they move on. No effort to cover the deeper whys and wherefores.

      1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
        James C. Sherlock

        The key is that any package of information prepared for the public body, like a draft contract in this case and presentation slides, must be posted at least three days before the meeting. See some of the other public meeting rules and the references in my answer to WayneS below.

    2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      FYI, the resolution passed by the Richmond School Board says:

      “A collectively bargained agreement is subject to sufficient appropriation and funding by the Richmond City Council. If the Richmond City Council fails to appropriate sufficient funds to implement the agreement, either party may reopen negotiations.”

  2. It appears to me that, should they choose to do so, a local government body can make everything related to its negotiations with public employee unions exempt from FOIA by :

    1) Hiring a consultant to negotiate with the union(s) and,

    2) Having their legal counsel present whenever they discuss the issue amongst themselves, and asking said counsel’s advice about some aspect of each discussion.

    Their actual vote on the contract will still have to be taken during a public meeting, of course, but no public discussion of the vote is required.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      It is not quite as bad as you may think. Here are most of the rules.

      If it is a meeting under FOIA, the law requires that:
      1. Notice of the meeting be given;
      2. The meeting must be open to the public; and
      3. Minutes of the meeting must be taken and preserved

      Any person who annually files a written request for notification with a public body is entitled to receive direct notification of all meetings of that public body. If the person requesting notice does not object, the public body may provide the notice electronically.

      The request for notice shall include the requester’s name, address, zip code, daytime telephone number, electronic mail address, if available, and organization, if any.

      Any person may photograph, film, record or otherwise reproduce any portion of a meeting required to be open.

      Virginia FOIA requires public bodies, with a few exceptions discussed below, to record minutes of their meetings and to make them available to the public for inspection and copying. They may, but need not, make audio or video recordings of their meetings. If a public body chooses to do so, however, the recording is a public record that you can access just like ordinary minutes.

      At least one copy of all agenda packets and, unless exempt, all materials furnished to members of a public body for a meeting must be made available for public inspection at the same time the packets or materials are furnished to the members of the public body.

      Minutes are required to be taken at open meetings, and are not required during closed meetings.

      Minutes, including draft minutes, and all other records of open meetings, including audio or audio/visual recordings are public records and must be released upon request.

      Any and all votes taken to authorize the transaction of any public business must be taken and recorded in an open meeting.

      Anyone may attend. The right to attend meetings does not include the right to participate or comment.

      for the entire list of rules, see http://foiacouncil.dls.virginia.gov/ref/meetingshandout2011.pdf and https://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/open-meetings-laws-virgina#:~:text=The%20right%20to%20attend%20meetings%20is%20not%20necessarily,the%20meeting%2C%20but%20an%20agenda%20is%20not%20required.

    2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      As I read the law, there would not even have to be a public meeting to adopt the contract. After all, it is a contract, which the city manager or county administrator, theoretically, could sign. It would be bad politics to do that, of course.

      A governing body has to authorize collective bargaining by resolution or ordinance. Before an ordinance can be adopted, there has to be a public hearing. It is in that resolution or ordinance that the governing body should set out the procedures for approval of any contract, such as a public hearing.

      1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
        James C. Sherlock

        Thanks. You may prove right, but as you say, the politics of not having a public meeting would be pretty bad except perhaps in Richmond.

      2. Good point.

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