First They Come for the Gas Pipelines, Then the Nukes, and Then… Your Gas Grill?

by James A. Bacon

As Virginia hurtles towards its brave new future of a net zero-carbon economy, the political class needs more data so it can figure out who else to regulate and what else to shut down. Our overlords have a good handle on CO2 emissions in the electric grid and the transportation sector, but Virginia’s economy is so big and sprawling that many carbon “polluters” have not been identified.

A bill submitted by Sen. Joe Morrissey, D-Richmond, would correct that data deficiency. The bill would allow the state Department of Environmental Quality to conduct an inventory of “all greenhouse gas emissions” and to update it every four years. DEQ would publish the date on its website and show how emissions compared to the baseline. The bill has passed both the House and the Senate.

“Good policy requires good data and this legislation gives us the ability to get the data we need to craft good policy going forward,” The Virginia Mercury quotes DEQ Deputy Director Chris Bast as saying.

The bill provides no specifics on precisely what kind of data would be collected, but the Mercury provides some clues as to what regulators are thinking.

Data on carbon and methane emissions from power plants and major sources of air pollution can be found in state and federal air permits, and officials can rely on widely used models to estimate emissions linked to transportation and agriculture. But information about emissions from smaller industrial polluters and building infrastructure that relies on natural gas and oil instead of electricity often isn’t readily available to the agency.

“We’re very mindful of the fact that we don’t need to be drilling down too far in the weeds to get at every little thing, but we need the ability to evaluate what our actual emissions are,” DEQ Director David Paylor told lawmakers during one hearing.

Where will this bill take us? Is Morrissey’s intention simply to measure Virginia’s progress in decarbonizing its economy? Or is the goal to identify new sets of targets to go after? The goal, it is becoming increasingly clear, is to eliminate all fossil fuels — including natural gas to heat your home. What’s next? Wood-fired stoves? Propane tanks in backyard grills? Portable generators? DEQ may not be setting its sights on those things right now, but there is nothing in the language of the bill to prevent them from drilling deeper.

Where does this end?


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24 responses to “First They Come for the Gas Pipelines, Then the Nukes, and Then… Your Gas Grill?”

  1. Steve Haner Avatar
    Steve Haner

    It ends with a 100% electric economy, dependent on intermittent sources and batteries, with a far more extensive grid to handle the huge load increases — or instead and just as likely, severe rationing of power. Your heat, backyard grill, lawn mower and other tools will all be electric.

    Note the FOIA exemption.

    1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
      Nancy_Naive

      Well, Texans would rather freeze to death in the dark than submit to regulation. Better that way than a coronary opening the power bill.

  2. Steve Haner Avatar
    Steve Haner

    It ends with a 100% electric economy, dependent on intermittent sources and batteries, with a far more extensive grid to handle the huge load increases — or instead and just as likely, severe rationing of power. Your heat, backyard grill, lawn mower and other tools will all be electric.

    Note the FOIA exemption.

    1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
      Nancy_Naive

      Well, Texans would rather freeze to death in the dark than submit to regulation. Better that way than a coronary opening the power bill.

      1. tmtfairfax Avatar

        That’s just wrong. ERCOT and its members are subject to state regulation.

        “All ERCOT Market Participants are subject to oversight by the Public Utility Commission of Texas (PUCT). The PUCT administers the Public Utility Regulatory Act (PURA), and adopts and enforces rules pursuant to the authority granted in PURA. The PUCT also has oversight and enforcement authority over the ERCOT Protocols, Operating Guides, and Other Binding Documents. The PUCT has contracts with an Independent Market Monitor (16 T.A.C. §25.365) and a Reliability Monitor (16 T.A.C. §25.503) to assist with oversight and enforcement activities.”

        According to FERC, ” The transmission of electric energy occurring wholly within ERCOT is not subject to the Commission’s jurisdiction under sections 203, 205, or 206 of the Federal Power Act. ”

        Having dealt with the Texas PUC many times in my professional career, it is a substantial regulator, much, much stricter than the VSCC.

  3. sherlockj Avatar

    More to the point is my whole house generator for use when the grid fails. Generators of that size run on natural gas. Catch 22.

    1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
      Nancy_Naive

      I’ll tell you of my friend who installed his genset. When the electrical power went out, a couple of days later, the gas company shutdown until electricity was restored after a week.

      “Oh well,” he said, “at least I wasn’t out of power for the whole 7 days.”

      1. idiocracy Avatar

        That’s why you get one that runs on propane along with a propane tank.

  4. sherlockj Avatar

    More to the point is my whole house generator for use when the grid fails. Generators of that size run on natural gas. Catch 22.

    1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
      Nancy_Naive

      I’ll tell you of my friend who installed his genset. When the electrical power went out, a couple of days later, the gas company shutdown until electricity was restored after a week.

      “Oh well,” he said, “at least I wasn’t out of power for the whole 7 days.”

      1. idiocracy Avatar

        That’s why you get one that runs on propane along with a propane tank.

  5. I am not sure where the Dem is going with that, but with national Dems setting the pace, not sure we have to do much as a state at the moment. There is always other states to look at to see if we need to be doing anything statewide. We have RGGI and national Dems setting policies, unclear what else is needed. What comes to my mind is landfills, ag business, abandoned coal mines as methane sources. I am not opposed to looking at it but I am not sure what he is thinking as scope/purpose.

  6. I am not sure where the Dem is going with that, but with national Dems setting the pace, not sure we have to do much as a state at the moment. There is always other states to look at to see if we need to be doing anything statewide. We have RGGI and national Dems setting policies, unclear what else is needed. What comes to my mind is landfills, ag business, abandoned coal mines as methane sources. I am not opposed to looking at it but I am not sure what he is thinking as scope/purpose.

  7. LarrytheG Avatar

    We’re never going to get to zero anytime in the next 50 years.

    How’s that?

    We never got to zero on CFCs either and the ozone holes are not “fixed” and now we have ozone hole skeptics also!

    We talk about the Tragedy of the Commons….

    We seem to have an affinity for that… eh?

    We’re good at recognizing it but pretty much suck at doing much about it and really, it’s so much easier if we view it as a hoax anyhow. Problem solved.

  8. LarrytheG Avatar

    We’re never going to get to zero anytime in the next 50 years.

    How’s that?

    We never got to zero on CFCs either and the ozone holes are not “fixed” and now we have ozone hole skeptics also!

    We talk about the Tragedy of the Commons….

    We seem to have an affinity for that… eh?

    We’re good at recognizing it but pretty much suck at doing much about it and really, it’s so much easier if we view it as a hoax anyhow. Problem solved.

  9. Power and energy emergencies will become the new normal. This is already playing out in Michigan.

    After Targeting Gas Pipeline, Whitmer Declares Propane Heating Fuel ‘Emergency’

    Gov. Gretchen Whitmer declared a Michigan “energy emergency” on Feb. 20 to “ensure adequate propane distribution” for the foreseeable future.

    https://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/after-targeting-gas-pipeline-whitmer-declares-propane-heating-fuel-emergency

  10. Power and energy emergencies will become the new normal. This is already playing out in Michigan.

    After Targeting Gas Pipeline, Whitmer Declares Propane Heating Fuel ‘Emergency’

    Gov. Gretchen Whitmer declared a Michigan “energy emergency” on Feb. 20 to “ensure adequate propane distribution” for the foreseeable future.

    https://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/after-targeting-gas-pipeline-whitmer-declares-propane-heating-fuel-emergency

  11. Matt Adams Avatar

    Sounds like a South Africa waiting for a happening. Everyone better invest in their inverters and batteries now to power their tv’s.

  12. Matt Adams Avatar

    Sounds like a South Africa waiting for a happening. Everyone better invest in their inverters and batteries now to power their tv’s.

  13. “…showing changes in GHG emissions relative to an estimated GHG emissions baseline case for calendar year 2010.”

    Who makes the baseline estimate?

  14. “…showing changes in GHG emissions relative to an estimated GHG emissions baseline case for calendar year 2010.”

    Who makes the baseline estimate?

  15. DLunsford Avatar

    Our local feed store always has a stack of shipping pallets out front free-for-the-taking. They are perfect for the bon fire ring. I’ll be sure to grab a few extra now for my homies across the river in VA. Skol!!

  16. DLunsford Avatar

    Our local feed store always has a stack of shipping pallets out front free-for-the-taking. They are perfect for the bon fire ring. I’ll be sure to grab a few extra now for my homies across the river in VA. Skol!!

  17. Richard Smith Avatar
    Richard Smith

    Government… choosing Winners and Losers…
    Never works out well….

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