Fear and Loathing in Mathews County

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by Carol J. Bova

When Mathews County Supervisor Amy Dubois offered a resolution on June 22 that the Board of Supervisors meet at the high school auditorium instead of the Historic Courthouse, surprised members of the public attending called out, “Why?”

At the meeting, all Dubois said was, “We were urged by an organization within the county to move to the high school.” Although it was not audible on a citizen’s recording, the Mathews Gloucester Gazette Journal added that she said “for safety reasons.” (County staff failed to broadcast or record audio for the meeting.)

Supervisor Paul Hudgins was not pleased about the resolution and clearly said on the citizen recording, “We voted on this last month, to go back to the old courthouse. We keep changing these meeting schedules like some people do their clothes.” Supervisor Jackie Ingram also objected, and she and Hudgins voted against the change, which passed 3-2.

It took a FOIA request to the County from Matthew Twist of WAVY to confirm on June 23 what the citizens of Mathews had been saying through word of mouth. WAVY.com posted, “A letter from a local chapter of the NAACP voicing concerns over contention at Mathews County Board of Supervisors meetings has prompted the body to move its regular meetings to a different venue.”

WAVY’s post reported Mathews NAACP President Edith Turner said in the June 17 letter, “People who want to attend meetings of the Board of Supervisors can be more assured of their safety at the high school venue, because guns are not allowed on school property.” WAVY also said, “The letter calls the historic courthouse’s location adjacent to the Confederate monument “unfriendly to African Americans” and others who support civil rights.… The potential for violence is heightened by the current debate over the location of the Confederate statue leading up to the referendum in November, Turner wrote.”

Neither members of Turner’s group or other Black citizens were ever unsafe at Board meetings. The potential for violence was something the Mathews citizens who regularly attended board meetings in past years could never imagine they would be accused of creating. White, Black, Multi-racial, all part of Mathews, all interested in the issues before the supervisors. Encouraging distrust only brings more distrust — on all sides.

When Edith Turner was the moderator at the NAACP Candidate Forum in 2019, she asked each of us whether we would object to adding a memorial to slaves to the Courthouse monuments. No one saw a problem in that, and in fact, I suggested in addition to that memorial, others should be erected to celebrate Black citizens of Mathews who were important to our history and growth. I mentioned as an example, Lavinia Hudgins, the supervisor of Black schools in Mathews in 1914. Born in 1874, her mother taught her to read before she started school. She graduated from Hampton Normal and Agricultural Institute (now Hampton University) in 1893. Ms. Turner gave me a strange look and moved on to the next person.

Mathews Courthouse

“Mathews County Courthouse Square is a handsome, well-integrated complex of buildings and monuments which spans the history of the county, and which reflects its growth and the events which have shaped its citizens’ lives.” Final Nomination for National Register of Historic Places.

I wonder if there will come a time when we can ever see ourselves and our Courthouse area that way again.

The County staff failed to broadcast and record sound or video of the meeting from the high school location on June 22. The meeting portal listing was marked as LIVE on the county website during the meeting, but citizens only got a message of “No Media Available.” A Mathews resident used a hand-held device to record and post a video on Facebook.


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11 responses to “Fear and Loathing in Mathews County”

  1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    I have never been to Mathews County. I think I have at least driven thru every county in Virginia. But not that one. Looks like a wonderful community. On my list of places to see this summer. I love road trips.

    1. WayneS Avatar

      If you like Revolutionary War sites be sure to visit Fort Cricket Hill while you’re there.

      https://www.mathewslibrary.org/history-genealogy/battle-of-cricket-hill/

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        Will do Mr. Wayne. I never knew there was so much to the story of Lord Dunmore. Must be a kinsmen of Northam somehow.

  2. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    I don’t think we know enough about what happened to draw any conclusion. I know that King George just voted to move their Confederate statue in response to their citizens.

  3. CJBova Avatar

    Until COVID, the Historic Courthouse has always been the regular meeting place except for the rare occasion it was closed for renovations, or in recent years, if the number attending for a public hearing was expected to be above 100 or so–not a common occurrence. There is a county parking lot around the corner from the Courthouse, street parking around it and on Main St. a block away, and at the library 1-1/2 blocks away.

    During the COVID restrictions, the Board met electronically on Zoom until the special meeting September 2 2020 to allow public comment on the Confederate monument was held at the High School to allow 6 ft of distance between people. The regular Sept. and Oct. meetings were at the high school and allowed limited attendance with social distancing and masks. They were broadcast and recorded. Oct 27 went back to fully electronic due to COVID but no recording online.

    November 2020 through March 2021 meetings were on Zoom again and recorded. An April closed BoS meeting was at the Courthouse and April and May 2021 were in person at the high school. The Board voted in May to return to the Historic Courthouse.

    A costly renovation at the Courthouse in 2013 installed a U-shaped meeting table, added new sound capabilities and connections for future video and internet capabilities which were used for additional upgrades since then.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      Spotsylvania meets regularly at their regular venue at the County Admin Building but they also typically move budget and other controversial issues to the High School.

      The do record but it’s clearly a less capable broadcast and recording. The sound is not so good.

      I know that now days many see nefarious motives in shortfalls of logistics but the truth is that sometimes, the county simply does not have the capable resources to do the work.

      They typically don’t have, on staff, folks that really know and understand broadcast issues. For a long time, we had terrible sound at the regular meeting.. it was maddening.

      And the school board actually seemed to have more competent help and to this point even allowed speakers 5 minutes – which is a LONG time for some speakers! 😉 and makes for an even longer evening for controversial issues.

      I cannot imagine folks bringing guns to a meeting for any reason. And these days, I do fear some folks who carry weapons.

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Thanks for the clarification, Carol. So the courthouse was the standard place, and dumping it is significant. Not my county, not my business….

      IMHO the local NAACP is just posturing and preening when it complains that the standard issue Johnny Reb statue scares people. But their county, not mine.

      1. CJBova Avatar

        It’s a bad precedent for any community to have the Board majority refuse to identify the source of the letter and validate the “posturing and preening,”as you described it, with knee-jerk acceptance.

        It does nothing to bring people together and perpetuates stereotypical labeling and insinuation. Keeping silent about actions such as this only encourages more of the same here and in other areas.

    3. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      And two really good restaurants across the street.

  4. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Okay, please clarify: until recently, the Courthouse was not the regular meeting location? They voted to start using it, and then changed? Understood that the constant change is not good, and understood that it is unfortunately some were obscuring the reasons….but it is not like the Courthouse has been the meeting place for a long time, right?

    All the other stuff aside, it should be about the size of the room and the availability of parking. A rule against guns in either location won’t stop some knucklehead from bringing one (ask TSA). Rural courthouses are not always surrounded by much parking. But if I’ve been to Mathews Courthouse, I can’t recall it.

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