by Steve HanerFirst published by the Thomas Jefferson Institute for Public Policy.

The Department of Energy, in consultation with the Department of Environmental Quality, shall analyze the life cycle of renewable energy facilities, including solar, wind, and battery storage components. The analysis shall assess the (i) feasibility, costs, recycling and salvage opportunities, waste strategies, and liability for the decommissioning of materials; (ii) potential impacts of underground infrastructure post-decommissioning; and (iii) potential impacts of the life cycle on farming, forestry, and sensitive wetlands.

Now what science-denying Republican tool of the fossil fuel industry put in that silly bill? No, wait:  Senate Bill 499 is sponsored by a Democratic state senator, Lynwood Lewis from the Eastern Shore. (And, Senator, you should amend the bill to cover the life cycle impacts of offshore wind on our ocean, and those retirement costs.)

Are Democrats getting shaky in their firm religious faith that an ocean full of turbines and whole counties plowed under for solar panels will Save Us from Doom? Would a sufficiently stark analysis of life cycle costs have them pining again for a nice gas plant? Wait, there is more.

There are these two companion bills, from two Democrats even more deeply connected to the Myth of Net Zero. House Bill 414 and Senate Bill 280 both “require each investor-owned electric utility and each electric cooperative utility to file a plan for monitoring and reporting electric service reliability and an annual electric service reliability report with the State Corporation Commission for approval.”

Those bills were probably filed in response to constituent complaints following weather-related power outages. But as they say, be careful what you ask for.  What happened in Texas last winter, and in the United Kingdom and the rest of Europe late last year, were massive weather-related reliability outages complicated by over-reliance on unreliable renewable sources.

An honest appraisal on life cycle costs of renewable energy projects and their intermittency will not be good news for advocates of the Virginia Clean Economy Act and other legislative efforts to eliminate the inexpensive, reliable fossil fuels still crucial to our daily lives.

This may indeed be the General Assembly session that backs off the massive, expensive and immutable energy mandates imposed by VCEA in that famous 2020 legislation. If so, the Republican-sponsored repeal bills (ink still drying) probably won’t be the vehicles.

Guess who else is sending clear warning signals that the solar-wind-battery vision of the future is actually dystopian? Dominion Energy Virginia included the following warnings in the most recent update to its integrated resource plan, the same plan which eliminated certain proposed new natural gas generation (emphasis added)

The SCC directed the Company to consider market purchases during the winter from the PJM wholesale market or from merchant generators located in the DOM Zone. The Company is concerned that overreliance on the market for purchases could present issues if other states within PJM build significant amounts of solar generation and those zones expect the market to provide energy at the same time the Company is expecting that energy (e.g., extended cloudy winter periods). If that were to become reality, either energy shortages or extreme price spikes would occur.

And elsewhere:

…when the Company adds increasing amounts of solar resources to the system, this will result in intra-day, intra-month, and seasonal challenges posed by the interplay of solar generation and load. These challenges could expand as neighboring states increase the amount of renewable energy generation on their systems, potentially leading to higher peak prices and a reduction in the level of imports available, similar to what happened during the Texas power crisis of February 2021.

The final clue, and frankly the biggest clue, that change is in the offing was provided right at the end of its term by the outgoing administration of Governor Ralph Northam (D), who pushed and signed VCEA. It produced a report on how Virginia can best meet the goal of ending the use of fossil fuels, which included the counterintuitive advice to keep natural gas around.

The report sparked a story in the green-energy-cheerleader publication Virginia Mercury.

The 2045 carbon-free electricity generation goal can be met through existing natural gas infrastructure, existing nuclear energy facilities (with renewed permits) and new renewable energy investments, wrote Secretary of Commerce and Trade Brian Ball and Secretary of Natural and Historic Resources Ann Jennings (emphasis theirs). A moratorium on new carbon-emitting generating units is not required to meet clean energy goals…

Among the provisions of the VCEA that the Weldon Cooper study found will likely increase ratepayer costs are the law’s mandates for Dominion and Appalachian Power to propose large quantities of solar, wind and storage. The researchers’ modeling concluded that those mandates could cost ratepayers more than $250 million per year by 2035 and $450 million per year by 2040 compared to a “least-cost” scenario. Wind and storage in particular were found to be more expensive than other options like solar.

The numbers are somewhat different, but the conclusion is absolutely the same one that has concerned many of us for two years. That is the same warning of unnecessary high consumer cost. Clean energy advocates have accused us of falsehood, political motives, exaggeration and (of course) science-denial. Then an analysis conducted by their friends concurs.

The 2022 energy regulation bills filed so far are piling up, and more could come in by Friday. Stay tuned. The public silence on these issues so far doesn’t mean things are not moving around in the dark. The course reversal may already be underway.


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62 responses to “Energy Reliability, Cost Concern Some Democrats?”

  1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “(ii) potential impacts of underground infrastructure post-decommissioning;”

    I will take a buried power line over a buried petroleum pipeline any day…

    1. how_it_works Avatar
      how_it_works

      You wouldn’t if that buried power line has a fault that only happens when it’s raining and Dominion is in charge of getting it fixed…

      …unless you like your power going out for 2 hours every time it rains, for years on end.

  2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “…complicated by over reliance on unreliable renewable sources.”

    No, that is not what happened in Texas and JAB published a retraction at the time to that effect.

  3. LarrytheG Avatar

    Decommissioning costs ? how about Nukes and piles of coal ash or mountain tops removed – none of which we ever heard much about until wind turbines and solar came along and NOW, it’s an issue? 😉

    geeze.

    The bottom line remains – if we have a fuel that costs less than another fuel – even if it is not always “available”, why in the world would we not use it when it is available to generate lower-cost power?

    what has happened to fiscal conservatives? They’ve all become culture warriors apparently…

  4. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    First, I want to apologize for posting my rant about school systems and pushing your fine article “below the fold” so quickly. I did not realize yours was there.

    As I just commented in response to the Wojik article, the 2045 carbon-free provision is a goal. But it is not set in stone. However, it was important to establish a goal in law. That makes it the official policy of the Commonwealth. Now we can figure out the best way to get there. If we had tried to figure out all the aspects of reaching that goal before making it the official policy, we would be arguing numbers for years. But, with the goal established, we have the incentive to figure it out. In fact, some of the technology to reach that goal has not been developed yet and probably would not have been if the goal had not been set.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      but it sounds so much more terrifying when it is purported to be a do-or-die proposition by the naysayers.

      You said something about the turbines.

      I dare say that most folks would ALSO not like to live next to a nuke or a coal plant or a destroyed mountaintop, or a pile of coal ash or a dump/landfill, or next to a field that has had bio-solids spread on it.

      I don’t understand why we have allowed all these other impacts that support our civilization, then decide some different ones are so much worse.

      1. Learning from our mistakes?

      2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        “…or next to a field that has had bio-solids spread on it.”

        Coming from mushroom country, all I’ve got to say is “meh…”

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      No, the 2045 deadline (2050 for Dominion) is set in statute. It is enforceable law, with financial penalties. Key mistake on your part.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        how about providing a text of the code? As I recall it has a significant bail-out clause.

        So how about it?

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          I learned long ago that you live to send us down rabbit holes. I’ve linked to the bill dozens of times.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            You don’t have to link it. It contains loopholes on the penalties big enough to drive a NatGas generation plant through it.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            the rabbitholes are the repetition of false narratives that disregard the actual law as written, which DOES allow for changes if reliability is affected.

            Ya’ll just repeat the same untruths over and over which is become a ‘feature” of this blog.

            It’s a GOAL with flexibility. Even if it did not have it, the law can be changed.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            ” Notwithstanding any other provision of law, unless the Commission finds in its discretion and after consideration of all in-state and regional transmission entity resources that there is a threat to the reliability or security of electric service to the utility’s customers, the Commission shall not approve construction of any new utility-owned generating facilities that emit carbon dioxide as a by-product of combusting fuel to generate electricity unless the utility has already met the energy savings goals identified in §56-596.2 and the Commission finds that supply-side resources are more cost-effective than demand-side or energy storage resources.”

            https://legiscan.com/VA/text/SB851/id/2183373

      2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        I realize that it is set in statute. However, statutes are not stone. They can be, and often are, amended.

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          Hence the current exercise! 🙂

          1. David Wojick Avatar
            David Wojick

            Indeed! That a law can be changed is no reason not to criticize it. It is a reason to criticize it.

    3. David Wojick Avatar
      David Wojick

      I have a new analysis of Dominion’s IRP. It lists generation additions and retirements year by year, to meet the VCEA mandates.

      There is no reliability.

      https://www.cfact.org/2022/01/21/vcea-makes-virginias-electric-grid-dangerously-unreliable/

  5. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    In answer to the cartoon fellow’s question, move to the next windmill, the de-icing system on that one has clearly failed, or don’t live in a State like Texas where the usual corner-cutting results in windmills without de-icers.

  6. Will we also analyze the slave & child labor used in rare earth mineral extraction?

    What about the environmental damage of such operations?

    Will we examine how much money will be sent to the CCP/PLA for the green technology & equipment?

    Wondering how many of the readers of BR have 100% solar/wind power in their homes & businesses?

    just askin……do you ‘walk the walk’?

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      Yes, we should ask those questions. Sometimes the answers are surprising. One small example is research showing that paper grocery bags have a larger carbon footprint than plastic bags, if the paper bags are just used once. Because I dislike plastic bags for several reasons, I now use the same paper bags over and over.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        and thank GAWD, they’re not made by slave or child labor…. what a conundrum!

      2. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        I recall my parents specifically requesting paper when I was growing up. We used that for book covers.

  7. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
    energyNOW_Fan

    Va. Dems want a $250 fine for gaso cars parking in plug-in parking spaces. I do not think we have had a serious problem, but just in case.

    1. A solution in search of a problem.

  8. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “The 2045 carbon-free electricity generation goal can be met through existing natural gas infrastructure…”

    I suggest you review Washington Gas’ de-carbonization plans which lay out the concept of partnering with Dominion to use their infrastructure paired with Green Hydrogen as storage for renewable wind and solar generated energy. This is fully consistent with that vision.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Please. Send me the link. Destroying that will make my day. Where will the solar panels and wind turbines go in that service territory? 🙂 And will the hydrogen arrive by pipeline? Hahaahahahah. A gas explosion will be a fart by comparison.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Is the a difference in restitution to a person killed in a hydrogen explosion to a person killed in a natural gas explosion?

      2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        Hey, Haner, my buddy Matt the Chemist has a message for you:

        “Hydrogen is not explosive unless it’s mixed with an oxidizer (Oxygen 10% pure or 41% air).”

        So no worries, eh…?

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          no can do – the narrative is “fear porn” and it cannot be changed……. 😉

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            In this case the fear is well/founded. Regardless what Matt the Chemist contends hydrogen is an explosive element (yes, Matt, it needs oxygen to explode or burn… duh…). This is not news to the SMEs designing any industrial process or equipment that use hydrogen as a fuel.

          2. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “Eric the half a troll LarrytheG • an hour ago
            In this case the fear is well/founded. Regardless what Matt the Chemist contends hydrogen is an explosive element (yes, Matt, it needs oxygen to explode or burn… duh…). This is not news to the SMEs designing any industrial process or equipment that use hydrogen as a fuel.”

            Tell that to the Department of Transportation they don’t placard it as an explosive but rather a flammable. Explosives don’t require Oxygen, if oxygen is required it’s called combustion.

            Seriously, on the daily you display a dizzying amount of lack of knowledge on any number of topics. You could Google this stuff before you run your mouth and get closer to the truth.

          3. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            “Explosives don’t require Oxygen”

            …as anyone who has ever flushed an M80 down a school toilet certainly knows…

        2. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          One doesn’t have to be a Chemist to know that, one only would have had to take a Chemistry class or work in an industry where it’s used (clearly you’ve done neither).

          Hydrogen is flammable, it becomes an explosive when mixed with oxygen. The percent’s you were given are when renders it an explosive. 41% of the air you breath isn’t much when the hydrogen your pumping through a pipeline has eaten the steel it’s made of and is leaking.

          I’d really love for you to say your area of expertise, because as far as I can tell it’s literally nothing but running your mouth.

        3. William O'Keefe Avatar
          William O’Keefe

          I guess that bit of science never made it to the Hindenburg . Not explosive is scientific ignorance!

      3. tmtfairfax Avatar
        tmtfairfax

        What was the name of that hydrogen blimp? The name Hindenburg comes to mind. No legislator has the knowledge to determine which technology(ies) will work. They should set reasonable, understandable, believable, measurable and achievable goals, forcing the various technologies to compete with each other.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          Hey, you’re aware they are making hydrogen cars for the public right now, right?

          The big problem is the cost, not safety.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/392909d4399829b157a28ecc60dc6ca40e146a6cbb227802203b5a7052ea70a8.jpg

        2. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
          energyNOW_Fan

          My middle name is Hydrogen. Worked with it my whole career mostly every day. No big deal. Flammable gas like methane, sure, you have to handle correctly. I am bullish on H2.

      4. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        https://washingtongasdcclimatebusinessplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Climate-Business-Plan-March-16-2020-FOR-WEB.pdf

        Recognizing, of course, that the natural gas industry is fighting for its life.

        Hydrogen is explosive…. thanks, I’ll bet no one ever considered that before…!!

        https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/918566

        1. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          “Hydrogen is explosive…. thanks, I’ll bet no one ever considered that before…!!”

          Hydrogen is not explosive unless it’s mixed with an oxidizer (Oxygen 10% pure or 41% air). I’m presuming you failed or didn’t take chemistry.

        2. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Oh, the humanity! But, ya know, it was the diesel fuel what killed the passengers. Hydrogen burns upward, oil spreads out and down.

          NatGas flame temperature -2,700C, hydrogen ~2,600C.

          1. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            You can’t see hydrogen burn unless there are impurities in it. They also don’t give off much heat, so you can be in a hydrogen flame and not know it.

            https://h2tools.org/bestpractices/hydrogen-flames

            “NatGas flame temperature -2,700C, hydrogen ~2,600C.”

            Umm no, you’re way off, like not even close.

            Hydrogen’s flame temp differs based upon the oxidizer. Air it’s 3080 (K) which is 2806 C, NG and LP both burn at 1960 C.

            https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/flame-temperature

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            They add “stink’um” to NatGas. Probably will with H too for the same reason.

            https://www.thoughtco.com/flame-temperatures-table-607307

            Dueling banjos.

          3. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Smell won’t do anything when you can’t see a flame. That’s why they have flame detectors, it is common knowledge if you work in an industry where hydrogen is used to be wary of possible fires.

            https://www.fireengineering.com/leadership/invisible-flame-fire-in-a-liquid-hydrogen-tanker/

            I’ll take a peer reviewed website over what looks to be a students cheat sheet.

            Their values (which don’t account for pressure are invalid) and therefore your values are wrong.

          4. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            The stinkum will add impurities. It’s two, two, two mints in one.

          5. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Mercaptan is to heavy to work with hydrogen.

            Why not accept you were wrong and move on?

          6. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            And you don’t think they’ll come up with a similar for hydrogen? Why don’t you just admit you’re dense and vacous?

            https://www.wired.com/2003/07/raising-a-stink-with-hydrogen/

            They use CO2 currently for leak detection in H pipes. But the lack of smell has a drawback.

          7. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            They have not and hydrogen is in current use.

            ” Why don’t you just admit you’re dense and [sic] vacous?”

            Clearly you were looking in the mirror when you made that statement, misspelling and all.

            I’m aware of what they use for detection of leaks, I’ve worked in settings where Hydrogen is used. I’ve sat through the safety classes, clearly you haven’t.

          8. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Your problem is now clear. You don’t have a future tense.

          9. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “Nancy Naive Matt Adams • a few seconds ago
            Your problem is now clear. You don’t have a future tense.”

            I’m sure that sounded intelligent to you, but to the rest of the world not so much.

            I get it, your a person who can’t admit error, that’s been well established up to this point.

            Hydrogen has been used as a fuel source since the 50’s they haven’t added any products to make people aware of it’s presence yet. That’s not to say it won’t happen, but it’s not practical nor is it achievable with what we have today. Hydrogen is 14 lighter than air.

            So do use a favor go get some drano and aluminum foil and put it in a 2 liter. Put a balloon on the top and let the drano eat the foil, you’ve have just created hydrogen gas. 2 Al + 3H2O -> Al2O3 + H2

  9. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Here is a final note for future reference.
    If you stripped the photovoltaic wafers off of the solar panels deployed in the US at the end of 2020, the material would fill roughly 600 boxcars.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      After they clean up all the coal ash sites, figure out what to do about Nuke waste and rehabilitate the mountaintops removed, we can “consider” the solar/wind “waste” issue in a more serious light.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        The anti-solars all complain that if you bury the panels then cadmium, et al, leach into the soil…

        Wait! Don’t they dig up a buncha rocks and dirt, process it, and extract the metals?

        Then hey, I know where they can get some dirt with those metals guaranteed to be there!

        1. Great idea. We could extract minerals fro coal ash, too.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Cinderblocks? Actually, they can already extract the suff from the panel wafers in the laboratory. When there’s enough waste wafers to build recycling plants, they will.

        2. LarrytheG Avatar

          so just store the panels like they do nuclear waste – above ground and covered or like coal ash 😉

          I note also that bio-solids which are spread on farm fields has heavy metals in it and not a peep from the anti-solar crowd about that, much less the expended fuel from the Nukes or the coal ash in unlined pits leaching heavy metals also.

          Seems like the “concern” is highly selective!

  10. David Wojick Avatar
    David Wojick

    I have a new analysis of Dominion’s IRP. There is no reliability.
    https://www.cfact.org/2022/01/21/vcea-makes-virginias-electric-grid-dangerously-unreliable/

  11. […] Sublette does talk about the cost imposed on Dominion bills, carefully avoiding the word tax but reporting it adds about 2%.  He ignores how other companies than Dominion pay for allowances.  He glosses over the impact RGGI has had on electricity prices in the other Northeastern states that participate, some of America’s highest power costs.  He fails to note that power companies in those states quietly import power from coal and natural gas from elsewhere, as Dominion is warning it might have to do. […]

  12. […] This will not work. The VCEA-created system mandated in state law will be unreliable and incredibly expensive. The utilities know this but won’t say it out loud. The SCC experts know this but haven’t been asked to project to 2045 or 2050. But both the utilities and the SCC are dancing around the truth, and even some Democrats may be waking up. […]

  13. […] the VCEA’s rigid dictates may bend after all. I was not imagining things months ago when I sensed pending flexibility, just looking in the wrong […]

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