Dominion’s Wind Gamble Could Cost Customers

by William O’Keefe

A study by the Kleiman Center for Energy Policy at the University of Pennsylvania concluded that reaching long-term offshore wind power targets presents serious challenges with “the most pressing being the need to build out the electric grid to reliably and economically deliver vast quantities of offshore wind power.” And that also involves building adequate storage capacity.

Although the SCC has approved Dominion’s plan for building a smart grid, it remains to be seen if its implementation will match the rhetoric and the operational needs of the offshore wind farm. Dominion has balked at being held to meeting a performance standard, which is telling.

An enhanced grid is essential because intermittent wind makes it necessary to compensate for periods of low or no wind while also matching demand and supply. Dominion is now in year three of its smart grid plan, so compatibility is based on analyses that are heavy on assumptions and light on empirical data.

The challenge facing Dominion may be best summarized by the observation that there’s a disconnect between the need for a stable grid that supplies electricity on demand 24 hours every day and the asserted moral obligation that we use non-dispatchable, intermittent, and generally unreliable renewable power in spite of the fact that intermittency is presently the enemy of a stable electric grid. California, which is far ahead of Virginia in moving to renewable energy, recognizes this. The California Independent System Operator (CAISO) has said the “biggest challenge of managing a greener grid is maintaining a precise balance between supply and demand as the percentage of intermittent power from renewables increases.”

Since wind power is non-dispatchable, Dominion will have to invest in batteries to store excess electricity for periods when there is low or no wind. But the batteries that utilities use today typically can only store power for short periods — about six hours or less. As Dominion increases the share of electricity from renewables, four- to six-hour batteries will not be adequate, according to many experts. To accommodate the ups and downs of renewable power generation, a battery that can provide 16 hours of storage would be the most cost-effective option, according to Hugh McDermott, senior VP for development for ESS Inc.

Achieving that 16-hour goal requires advances in battery technology. Presently, the focus is on “Flow Battery” technology, which has been in research and development for several decades and only recently is starting to gain some real-world use.  The main difference between flow batteries and other battery types is that aqueous electrolyte solutions are stored in exterior tanks and pumped toward a flow cell membrane and power stack. The larger the storage tanks, the more electricity can be generated.

While this technology is effective and proven, the ability to manufacture it in volumes at a commercially viable cost does not exist because of large upfront investment costs. And that means manufacturers will be seeking government support as the lithium ion developers did to offset these costs.

When Flow Batteries are finally produced for utilities, it is almost certain that the high cost of manufacturing will be reflected in their price and that Dominion customers are likely to end up underwriting a large part it. Will the SCC make Dominion include battery storage costs in the cost ceiling of the windfarm or will it be exempted?

Given that Dominion’s windfarm involves advances in technology that are still being demonstrated, Dominion’s lack of experience in building large offshore turbines, and the cost of advanced battery storage, the SCC would do well to examine the robustness of Dominion’s cost analyses and also take a hard look at the worst case scenario in terms of both cost and implementation. The fact that Dominion balked at having to meet a performance standard is an indication of its own uncertainty and unwillingness to bear risk.

William O’Keefe, a New Kent County resident, is founder of Solutions Consulting and former EVP of the American Petroleum Institute.


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33 responses to “Dominion’s Wind Gamble Could Cost Customers”

  1. Don Bowler Avatar

    Save the whales… and Virginia Dominion customers!

  2. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
    f/k/a_tmtfairfax

    Smart grid run by Dominion – a non sequitur. Dominion can’t even trim trees.

  3. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    “…the SCC would do well to examine the robustness of Dominion’s cost analyses and also take a hard look at the worst case scenario in terms of both cost and implementation.”

    The SCC is not the problem. It did that analysis and it didn’t matter. It is the high priests of the Green New Deal mythology at the General Assembly who need to wake up. The SCC would never have approved the wind project under standard application of the “reasonable and prudent” doctrine. Too late, folks, this boondoggle is now on the final glide path. The battle over the EIS will be interesting and can delay it, but chance of stopping this over what it does to marine life are slim.

    1. I think the chances are better than slim. The Feds have made a very big deal about the precarious endangerment of the Right Whale. Litigation has been announced. The fight is just starting.

      1. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        I certainly am willing to try. Would prefer a return to sanity in Washington and Richmond as the cleaner solution.

        1. Best to go with saving the whales.

          The chances that there will ever be a return to sanity in Washington or Richmond are slim to none, and slim just rode off into the sunset.

        2. The Republicans might do something to stop OSW, like requiring sound NEPA compliance.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            NEPA is not what you think it is. It’s primarily and fundamentally a disclosure document – of impacts.

            Need to go read up on it.

            Nothing in NEPA “stops” a project per se. No lawsuit is filed against NEPA.

            What “stops” a project is what NEPA requires to be disclosed.

            Like – impacts to whales.

            NEPA takes no action, it’s primary purpose is to show the impacts..

            It’s up to opponents to use the disclosed impacts as the basis for a legal challenge – to the govt agency that is responsible for impacts and mitigation.

            And unless there is an actual law that says “no OSW if any whale impacts”, it becomes a decision that BOEM will render based on their discretion.

            Take a look at the Federal 4th Circuit court in terms of who the opponents are suing – not NEPA but Forest Service for not enforcing regulations with respect to impacts.

          2. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
            f/k/a_tmtfairfax

            Absolutely correct. A covered entity must simply show that it identified and adequately considered alternatives that address applicable environmental issues. Other laws may provide restrictions on certain actions.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            Thank you TMT. Perhaps now, these yahoos will KNOW that NEPA is purely a disclosure process not one that “stops” a project. It’s what the NEPA discloses or fails to disclose that then leads to downstream legal challenges.

  4. LarrytheG Avatar

    So I look at this, this way. Right now, today without wind, we have enough power for the grid from a combination of nukes, gas and yes, coal.

    All the wind is going to do is supplant coal (and perhaps gas) when it can. When it can’t, the existing coal and gas plants will just come back online.

    The fall back from wind is to go back to the existing gas and coal generation sources.

    Any plans to permanently retire existing coal and gas need to be not done unless everyone including PJM is darn sure.

    Otherwise, just keep moving forward.

    1. How long does it take to bring a coal plant back online when the wind dies?

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        a long time but they’re getting phased out and replaced by gas anyhow sometime right on the physical site itself.

        1. We’re going to phase out the coal plants and replace them with gas, which we will phase out a few years later.
          While we are phasing out the coal, we will need more gas to replace it and meet the demand for more electricity to deal with more electric vehicles needing to be charged.
          We are not building any more pipelines to deliver the added gas.
          Gas is already in short supply and prices have gone up 50% in the last 18 mo.
          The oil and gas industry, knowing it is to be shut down, will invest $Billions in production facilities which it will close in a few years.
          Sounds like a plan. A poor plan, but a plan.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            Dominion admitted their ACC pipeline was not about generating electricity but instead selling it for other uses.

            Gas has gone up because we’re also exporting it which is what Dominion was trying to do.

            THe point is we’re not running out of gas – it’s being sold to the highest bidder just like other commodities including gasoline and there are a ton of existing pipelines moving it as well as a number of others being approved but the “opponents” either don’t read the news or prefer to claim something different than the facts: https://rbnenergy.com/midi/gas-projects.

            Oil and gas are NOT going to be “shut down”. That’s just the same old same old boogeyman scare tactics from the usual suspects.

            Over time, over decades, we will transition to wind/solar and modern nukes and perhaps fusion when we can as we have done with phasing out coal which is still not totally phased out and still produces about 20% of the electricity.

            What we have is the usual folks on the right spewing FUD about the issue in concert with their climate denial.

            Most Americans, a larger percentage KNOW we need to change and KNOW we will do it in stages as we have in the past (and more recently with CFCs to deal with the Ozone hole) not just shutter the fossil fuel industry overnight as the chicken little types like to blather.

            Remember our air conditioners were no longer going to work because we were getting rid of CFCs?

            Or people were being denied the “right” to buy incandescent lights and “forced” to buy LEDs?

            It’s the same folks who have always done this over the years and no shock they now deny climate change.

          2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            The oil and gas industry is actually investing billions in renewables.

    2. VCEA calls for all gas and coal to be gone in 23 years. How does your plan handle that?

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        First off, it’s 23 years, that not like tomorrow.

        Second, it’s not unchangeable.

        Third, it can be changed and will if need be.

        In the meantime, we keep our gas plants that we already have and let them be the “Storage” batteries when needed.

        Ya’ll are making problems when there are not any just for the sake of opposition to OSW.

  5. Dominion does not need high capacity batteries because their published plan only includes a trivial amount of storage. They know it will not work but having enough batteries would increase people’s bills a hundred fold or so. They are making a fortune building wind and solar that they know cannot work. Why SCC has not blown the whistle I do not know.

    See http://www.cfact.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/VCEA-Reliability-Research-Report.pdf?mc_cid=a4827a5419

    But then every utility is doing this.

  6. The battery scam is painfully obvious. Dominion’s VCEA plan, in the first 15 yrs, calls for 5,200 MW of OSW and just 3,800 MW of batteries. Assuming standard 4 hour batteries that is 15,200 MWh or enough for 3 hours of OSW backup. Even mythical 16 hour batteries give just 12 hours of backup.

    Several days of no wind power are common, especially during heat waves when the need for juice is highest. So there is basically no battery backup. Bath pumped storage has maybe another 4 hours so still nothing.

    But they have also built 14,000 MW of solar by then which needs backup every night. The batteries could do just over one hour of solar with nothing for OSW.

    In short the battery plan is trivial and they know it. There is basically almost no battery backup for the wind and solar. No doubt their plan is to build as much W&S as they can, making profit on every dollar, then “discover” that VCEA does not work and call for repeal.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      All true, which is why you run the gas plants when you must.

      This is NOT the “problem” some folks are trying to make it out to be and most of them are the climate denial crowd anyhow!

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        I thought these same people believe nuclear was the future. Now they never bring it up. Didn’t they used to say “all of the above” was what they supported…🤷‍♂️

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          Youngkin has a deal going for SMRs and Dominion claims they are in their “plan”.

          But they are even more tenuous than OSW at this point and predicted cost is a major issue.

  7. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “To accommodate the ups and downs of renewable power generation, a battery that can provide 16 hours of storage would be the most cost-effective option, according to Hugh McDermott, senior VP for development for ESS Inc.”

    Of course McDermott is the sales guy of a company that just happens to sell such batteries… quoting him is like an API guy writing an anti-renewables blog post…

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      Batteries right now would be the switch-over type when the grid is switching from wind/solar to gas – as opposed to long-duration batteries that would power the grid for hours.

      Batteries and their limitations is just a distraction from opponents that really is not the issue anyhow.

      When we use solar/wind, when we are ABLE to use it, it means we burn less gas. It’s as simple as that.

      And if gas is increasing in price, it makes even more economic sense!

      Batteries and SMRS are coming along and some day may help us burn even less gas but they’re not ready yet.

      That’s not a reason to oppose either but instead to do what we have always done when technology is advancing and evolving – support it and look forward to the needs and use of fuels that we are better off using less of for both cost and extraction/pollution reasons.

      All of this IS going to HAPPEN (like it usually has in the past) – the main question is whether soon or later.

      I just don’t understand the naysayers.

      It’s like they oppose change on a luddite basis.

      Everyone should want the advances as we have in the past most of us applauded the changes and improvements, looked forward to more/better.

      Now, we have opponents whose primary thing seems to be if any of this is being done in response to climate change as if that would negate going forward with beneficial changes anyhow – like we always have.

  8. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Cold, real cold, Saturday morning. Calm at sunrise. The steam from the waste treatment plant on Codorus Creek rose straight up above the stacks. The windmill atop the hill at Rocky Ridge Park was making full turns.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EcjbQqXyvyw

  9. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
    f/k/a_tmtfairfax

    We recently returned from Maui. The Island gets about 40% of its electricity from renewable sources, solar and wind. The rest comes from two diesel burning powerplants. The solar is largely confined to the dry western side of the island. Not so much on the rain forest side.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      TMT , I’m glad you went AND took note of the power situation.

      Yes, one COULD wonder why even MORE wind/solar is not used – as well as wonder why SMRs are not used.

      They can’t use gas because it’s way more expensive than diesel and I’m thinking the KWH cost there is about 30 cents or so.

      There are thousands of other inhabited islands like Hawaii that also burn diesel.

      1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
        f/k/a_tmtfairfax

        I was told that the Maui electric distribution grid is incapable of handling anymore privately generated electricity (chiefly home or business solar).

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          40% sounds like max numbers we have seen before, maybe even less at 30%.

          Also interesting that so far, no island has a small SMR to help their grid. One might think that would be the first places SMRs would be practical.

          1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
            f/k/a_tmtfairfax

            Maui, for example, is subject to the trade winds that blow most of the time due to the Earth’s rotation. Land-based wind turbines were turning much faster than any others I seen while flying or driving.

            The tech breaktrough on fusion sill seems to me to be the best news for a potential long term solution.

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