Dominion’s Planned Offshore Wind Farm Need Not – and Must Not – Be Built Where Planned

by James C. Sherlock

I am referring in the title, of course, to Dominion Power’s Coastal Virginia Offshore Wind (CVOW) project to be located in the hatched area below.

It is planned for one of the U.S. Department of the Interior’s (DI) Bureau of Ocean Energy Management (BOEM) offshore wind farm lease areas. Lease areas that have been rendered obsolete by operational modern floating turbine technology.

The area for which CVOW construction is proposed is overlaid below on an operational graphic of Atlantic international maritime vessel density. Red indicates highest density.

There are only a half dozen expanses of water that reach that international vessel density on the entire U.S. Atlantic coast. They are, of course, the approaches to the East Coast’s major ports.

See the Atlantic Coast Port Access Route Study Final Report Appendix III Fig. 18 below for an operational rendering of international shipping flow at the location proposed for CVOW.

 

See the coastal shipping traffic chart below.

The nearest point is 27 miles off the coast of Virginia Beach and the furthest 42 miles offshore. The lease area occupies 112,800 acres. One seventh the size of Rhode Island.

Undersea noise propagation characteristics will not be known unless and until it is built.

CVOW, if built, will threaten:

  • the entrance to the Chesapeake Bay;
  • the point at which international maritime traffic funnels to and from the ports of Norfolk and Baltimore;
  • the point at which coastal maritime traffic on the east coast is most dense; and
  • the point at which Navy warships and logistics vessels enter and depart the world’s largest naval base.

You might reasonably ask “Of the entire Atlantic Coast, why there?” Or you might put it somewhat less gently. Net of all the risks and rewards, there is no reasonable answer to that question. Never was.

But the facts have also changed.

At this point Dominion can testify that it must have offshore wind power under Virginia law that itself can be changed.

But, because of the deployment of operational floating turbines, it can no longer testify that it must source that power from that singular spot at the entrance to the Chesapeake Bay.

CVOW, in a class of risk that we used to call a “grenade with the pin pulled,” has yet to receive final construction approval from the federal government. But the time is late.

We can ask questions of BOEM in three online public meetings in January and February. You can mail in your questions to BOEM to their office in Sterling listed at the link ahead of those meetings. I will submit this column.

The SCC, in an order a couple of weeks ago, wrote:

The magnitude of this project is so great that it will likely be the costliest project being undertaken by any regulated utility in the United States. And the electricity produced by this Project will be among the most expensive sources of power — on both a per kilowatt of firm capacity and a per megawatt-hour basis — in the entire United States.

So project risk — project magnitude plus inexperience in offshore wind project management at Dominion – is enormous. It is so big a project that they don’t and won’t hire a prime contractor.

So Dominion is the prime. This is the project they start with?

That SCC action was celebrated as final. It is not. Construction cannot begin until the federal approval is granted.

Whatever approvals have been granted by the SCC will be withdrawn if the General Assembly revises Virginia law to ban energy from that specific place in the ocean.

As it should.

The magnitude and utilization of CVOW. CVOW, scheduled pending federal and state approval to begin offshore construction in 2024 in an immense span of ocean leased from the federal government, is planned to be a 2.6-gigawatt wind farm.

In the totality of Virginia’s energy needs, that is not a lot of energy.

If built, it will consist of 176 wind turbines standing slightly more than 800 feet tall, three offshore substations to collect and bundle the energy, undersea cables to get it ashore, and new onshore transmission infrastructure to deliver the energy onto the broader electric grid. At night.

To replace solar energy dormant at night that we have at utility scale because we fund it with federal dollars in foregone tax credits and rebates. Tax dollars that are spent in the name of clean energy.

Those tax credits and rebates are, with CVOW, about to threaten maritime safety, the reliability of the grid, and national security.

BOEM. BOEM is given authority and responsibility for granting of leases under
section 388(a) of the Energy Policy Act of 2005 (EPAct) (Pub. L. 109-58)

Requirements under that act are specific. They include:

(4) REQUIREMENTS- The Secretary shall ensure that any activity under this subsection is carried out in a manner that provides for–
(A) safety;
(B) protection of the environment;
(E) coordination with relevant Federal agencies;
(F) protection of national security interests of the United States;
(G) protection of correlative rights in the outer Continental Shelf;
(I) prevention of interference with reasonable uses (as determined by the Secretary) of the exclusive economic zone, the high seas, and the territorial seas;
(J) consideration of–

(i) the location of, and any schedule relating to, a lease, easement, or right-of-way for an area of the outer Continental Shelf; and
(ii) any other use of the sea or seabed, including use for a fishery, a sea lane, a potential site of a deepwater port, or navigation;

And with that charter they came up with, among others, the grid on which CVOW is to be built?

In practice that agency considers commercial fishing industry and environmental impacts and picks locations that offer the right wind and bottom conditions.

“Relevant” federal agencies are supposed to provide the rest of the inputs.

BOEM in 2020 released a supplement to its draft environmental impact statement (EIS). That statement found major adverse impacts to commercial fishing and scientific research, moderate impacts to marine life, and minor impacts to air quality.

Impacts, but apparently not obstacles now.

And now the federal map of approved locations similar to that where Dominion hopes to build CVOW has been disrupted by a new technology, floating turbines, that allows offshore wind farms nearly anywhere. They are proven successful and undergoing accelerated deployment in waters off of the U.K.

But that BOEM map, given some combination of bureaucratic inertia and forward-leaning administration ideology, persists.

Coastal traffic. The Coast Guard published in 2015 a draft study of the effects of offshore wind farms on maritime traffic on the Atlantic Coast, with an utterly negative opinion of the idea. You see the international traffic above. Below is an illustration of the coastal traffic.

Map of ocean off of the entrance to the Chesapeake Bay overlaid with coastal traffic routes and density.

The Coast guard objection was beaten back to the point that you cannot find that draft report on the Coast Guard website any more, nor can you find there the final study linked above.

The Navy. The CVOW location certainly wasn’t the Navy’s idea.

The Department of the Navy was reportedly consulted in the Obama administration when the lease areas were set, but I don’t know whether the operational navy was asked its opinion.

I sincerely doubt it was asked whether it thought that location a good idea.

The Navy, if it has to, will work to deal with potential enemy submarine threats made more challenging by the physical obstacles in that location and the noise that massive field will put in the water. And with the physical restrictions on ingress and egress routes for the naval bases in South Hampton Roads.

Engineers, having never built either a field or wind turbines this size, much less in a location like this, reportedly have no real idea how that noise will propagate.

If it is built, the Navy will measure the noise and its propagation and spend a great deal of money over time to overcome the challenges it will present to defense of the national assets within the Chesapeake Bay.

Marine mammals will either deal with it. Or not.

Money for Navy efforts will be hidden in the defense budget, not included in the advertised costs of the project. A hundred studies will be dedicated to technical and operational approaches to dealing with the massive field of towers.

Exercises will be held. The exercises should require shutting down the field, as would happen in wartime.  Operational commanders will, in time of conflict, shut CVOW down to eliminate the undersea noise it generates. For the duration of the threat.

But because of floating turbine technology, such zones no longer have to hover over the Navy’s bases or major international sea lanes.

But bureaucratic inertia will cause policy to trail transformational change for years. Always does.

CVOW is just the first project at such a strategic location facing a federal construction permit action.

Then there are freedom of navigation operations (FONOPS), arguably the Navy’s most successful mission since WWII.  It has kept open sea lanes all over the world to support the international trade that has enriched the world.

We are now doing what we have spent 75 years protecting against, extending national interests into international waters.  We will have no basis to complain when Russian warships, including submarines, get very close to CVOW, just as we sail into the Black Sea and the new”islands that the Chinese have built near the Philippines.

Perhaps retired admiral submariners, not subject to silencing by the Secretary of the Navy, will make their voices heard on the national defense matter.

Perhaps the new Republican-led House will hold hearings.

The Greens. The interesting thing is that the Greens don’t care where such generators are located. In their own Sophie’s choice, they have long made their peace with killing raptor birds ashore and marine mammals in the ocean in a trade for wind power.

They don’t care whether there is ever a CVOW at that spot in the ocean. They just want offshore wind power. With floating turbine technology now available, the options for locating such turbines have expanded immensely.

So CVOW does not have to present an obstacle to international shipping or commercial fishing. It does not, ever, have to represent a complication to the defense of the entrance to the Chesapeake Bay.

Power generation does not ever have to occur in that spot. Virginians who support clean energy don’t care if it comes from there.

If CVOW winds up being built, it will be there because it was available, Dominion leased it, and is using the Virginia Clean Energy Act and that Act’s Mandatory Renewable Energy Portfolio Standard Program to get SCC permits to bring the power ashore.

For that the entire federal government, the fishing and maritime industries, the national defense and the Virginia State Corporation Commission are lashed to the helm.

Wind industry and the Greens vs. the Coast Guard — no contest. The Coast Guard conducted a study into broader issues with wind farms offshore of the U.S. coasts; particularly how wind projects are sited within shipping lanes and safe operating clearances for vessels traveling past turbine towers.

The Coast Guard’s Atlantic Coast Port Access Route Study (ACPARS), as reported by the Checks and Balances Project, a not-for-profit transformed into a spokesperson for the wind industry, concluded that:

After five years of delay, the U.S. Coast Guard finally released a study that concludes commercial shipping off the Eastern Seaboard is incompatible with a proposed offshore wind energy industry – despite the fact that Europe has successfully integrated the two for more than a decade.

The Obama Administration has promoted the development of offshore wind energy since 2009. In September 2015, the Administration held a Summit on Offshore Wind with federal agencies. Yet though the Dept. of Homeland Security participated, the U.S. Coast Guard, of which it is a part, has sailed in a different direction.

The Atlantic Coast Port Access Route Study (ACPARS), released on March 14, 2016, focuses on what its authors assert are dangers from offshore wind farms to shipping, even going so far as to say that offshore wind energy could be an impediment to American energy independence. The study calls for dramatically limiting space for wind energy installations on the Outer Continental Shelf, and even recommends removal of blocks from currently leased areas.

The attacks were swift, brutal, and effective, a testimony to the political clout of the Greens.

ACPARS, which in an act of contrition has disappeared from the Coast Guard’s web site, showed that only one of the BOEM lease areas in 2015 was squarely in the middle of a high-density shipping lane. If you have not already guessed which one, see the first map above.

The Greens, through the Obama Administration, beat the Coast Guard into submission because of ACPARS broader findings. They don’t care about CVOW per se.

But it is the one Dominion wants.

The shore transmission system. Another concern is the substantial increase in energy to the coastal transmission system. Offshore wind will add an enormous amount of power to the existing grid, and the current grid must be modified to handle the influx.

When it comes to integrating the resulting influx into the power grid, Dominion will need to construct new facilities to handle what the industry calls euphemistically “the uptick in load.”

The power will come ashore at the state military reservation on the coast and be transported to Naval Air Station Oceana and finally terminate at Dominion’s existing substation at Naval Auxiliary Landing Field Fentress in Chesapeake.

One wonders it there are to be complications or risks in that plan.

Game changer – floating turbines. The U.K. earlier this year, in partnership with industry, increased funding to its Floating Offshore Wind Demonstration Programme to accelerate deployment, not R&D, into such sources. The UK already has eleven projects it has deemed successful.

The UK is already home to the world’s largest deployment of offshore wind, however floating turbines, which can be deployed in deeper waters than conventional turbines, will boost energy capacity even further by allowing wind farms to be situated in new areas around the UK coastline where wind strengths are at their highest and most productive.

It is the near-term availability of that technology that is driving lobstermen from the Gulf of Maine.

Floating turbines make the East Coast BOEM lease areas map obsolete.

That map was limited to wind areas that were of the right bottom depth to support towers. Like the ones that Dominion plans to build. At the entrance to the Chesapeake Bay.

Dominion asserts to the State Corporation Commission that it must have CVOW power ashore to supply power at night when the solar farms are impotent. That it must under the Act and can under its assumptions use it to provide power to the 600,000 customers they estimate it will serve at peak power generation, presumably including Hampton Roads military installations.

It can provide that power when the wind does not blow. Or when it blows too hard in a Nor’easter. When maintenance and repair are necessary. When, ultimately, replacement is necessary after what Dominion hopes will be 30 years. These are not perpetual motion machines.

Dominion testifies that batteries will store energy for those contingencies.

We wonder what they will testify in response to a question about what will happen when a military commander in time of conflict orders CVOW shut down to silence it. For the duration of the threat. However long that may be.

Has anyone ever told a broad swath of Virginians that, entirely because of Northam’s Act, even CVOW won’t provide nearly enough power? Below is what Dominion showed the SCC about capacity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Alternatives. Since wind turbines are freed from their dependence on depths for the towers, Dominion can either find a place less threatening for its own floating turbines or buy wind power from those that can.

Virginia is also blessed to sit adjacent to by far the largest proven natural gas reserves in the nation, and some of the largest in the world — those in West Virginia.

Virginia can join the natural gas pipeline wars in favor of those pipelines.

With the looming Dominion power gap, national defense and reliable power as front-line issues, and floating turbine technologies to satisfy their green base’s desire for offshore wind power, Virginia’s two senators can join with West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin to block further related appropriations until:

  1. Gas pipelines to Virginia’s Atlantic Coast and Southern Virginia are mandated in federal law; or
  2. CVOW is eliminated from the list of available offshore wind turbine areas; or
  3. Both.

Or they can tell us why they will not.

Such a move will fill not only the nighttime need here, but also fill the capacity gap that Dominion so clearly describes.

Observations and Recommendations for Approaching Federal Milestone. CVOW construction start awaits the BOEM Record of Decision for the Construction and Operations Plan (COP) in Q2-2023.

This article is filled with information and unanswered questions that argue for a no on that decision.

The development and operational success of floating wind turbines has made the current map of government-approved locations for offshore wind turbines obsolete.

But make no mistake.  I argue that the location proposed for CVOW violates current law regardless of floating wind turbine technology.

Section 8 of the Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act (43 U.S.C. 1337) as amended by SEC. 388. requires:

“(F) protection of national security interests of the United States; and

(J) consideration of–
(i) the location of, and any schedule relating to, a lease, easement, or right-of-way for an area of the outer Continental Shelf; and
(ii) any other use of the sea or seabed, including use for a fishery, a sea lane, a potential site of a deepwater port, or navigation;”

Three observations:

  1. If the lease location at the entrance to the Chesapeake Bay through which the warships and logistical vessels of Atlantic Fleet pass does not qualify as a threat to the national security interests of the United States, then the words in the law are meaningless.  The fact that the wind farm in that location, with the noise it puts in the water and the proximity of sea lanes and the world’s largest naval base will attract both potentially hostile and hostile naval vessels, including submarines, is unchallenged.  The open question is whether we can defend against them, the level of effort it will take to do so and how Dominion will deal with the prolonged shutdown that such operations would require.  The unanswerable question, already asked in the law, is why BOEM would complicate the defense of that strategic location in the first place.
  2. That site will be identified and published as a hazard to navigation.
  3. Finally, BOEM need not consider the effects of this and some other identified locations on “potential” deepwater ports. Consider the ports that already exist on both coasts.

A federal judge, and the appropriate committee of the new House of Representatives, will ask three questions of BEOM.  So I will:

  1. Is this specific location critical for the energy security of the United States?
  2. Are there viable alternatives?
  3. Does this specific location compromise the national security interests of the United States by requiring dedicated military effort to account for its strategic location?

If the answer to the first question is “no” and the second and third are “yes”, BOEM must withdraw and update the current lease area maps to make the changes required by existing  law.

The first step will be to deny the construction permit, cancel the lease currently held by Dominion and remove that location from the map.

The Virginia General Assembly. Construction, awaiting federal permission, and with it the biggest costs to Virginia rate payers, has not begun in earnest.

But Ralph Northam’s Virginia Clean Economy Act (VCEA) (the Act) represents Dominion’s entire justification before the State Corporation Commission for this abomination.

That is vulnerable to General Assembly action. And should be foreclosed by such action.

Bottom line. Others will do what they can to prevent federal approval.

Virginia’s General Assembly can amend the Virginia Clean Energy Act to make illegal the bringing ashore in Virginia of power from the CVOW.

That will end the madness of CVOW.

And must.

Update Dec 27 at 12:20 AM.  Updated “Approaching Federal Milestone” with arguments I will use in a letter to BOEM in conjunction with its review of the final approval of construction of CVOW.


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115 responses to “Dominion’s Planned Offshore Wind Farm Need Not – and Must Not – Be Built Where Planned”

  1. Glad to see you looking at this. Re navigation the COP Appendix S is “Risk to navigation” but I doubt there is much on risk. There is detailed mapping of traffic lanes, something like 6 needing relocation because they pass through the array. It is a very busy intersection of coastal with port traffic.

    I mention it here: https://www.cfact.org/2022/09/27/how-to-kill-whales-with-offshore-wind/

    I imagine floating turbines would sound different but not quieter. If the barge acts as a sounding board they might be much loader. They are a hot prospect for the west coast which dies not have the same big shelf we enjoy.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Good news.

      So CVOW will not be posted as a permanent hazard to navigation in the Coast Guard’s Notices to Mariners?

  2. Bob Matthias Avatar
    Bob Matthias

    CVOW was moved 10 miles to the east to accommodate concerns of Virginia Maritime industry. Also the Georgia nuke plant is estimated to have huge cost overruns to a $30 billion cost

  3. LarrytheG Avatar

    More confusion here. We do not need more gas for electricity. Dominion made that claim with their ACC but then was forced to admit it was not needed for that.

    What the wind/solar are for is to burn them when they are available instead of burning gas.

    The Forest Service has just issued a revised NEPA DEIS that specifies what the Mountain Valley can do to finished their pipeline. Basically specifies boring for the AT and some water crossings.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7d59a116ec5a56a8ff7135704ff0793d278e7d776b18b19ad8f128edf40a8dd0.jpg

    https://roanoke.com/news/local/amended-forest-service-guidelines-could-remove-mountain-valley-pipeline-roadblock/article_a23f0bb0-82e1-11ed-be34-3351f7d5d1e9.html

    And the wind lease areas were vetted by BOEM in consultation with the NAVY on BOTH the east and west coasts before they were drawn!

    And the funny thing is with all those boat traffic routes. The number 1 or 2 leading cause of death for right whales is ship strikes – and no one is talking about moving them!

    re: the “greens” are fine putting the towers where BOEM says to – they’re just not okay saying “no towers anywhere”.

    And many of the “greens” would be just fine with SMRs – you know those nukes on the Navy ships – if Dominion wants to make them and they are cost-effective – again the goal is to burn fuels that are cleaner and reduce the fuels that are not.

    All of this is going forward despite the climate skeptics fake culture war “concerns”.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      You are, as nearly always, misunderstanding important issues, building straw men and burning them down.

      Do you know the difference between consulting with the Department of the Navy vs. presenting the problem to operational commanders and asking their professional judgement of whether it is a good idea?

      Don’t bother to answer. I will. It is the difference between night and day. The Secretary of the Navy is going to support the President’s policy.

      Read the article again. Find where I recommended “no towers anywhere”. When your time is expired admit that I recommended just the opposite.

      I recommended only not putting them in this specific place. Because it is demonstrably moronic to do so.

      If you saw a “culture war” concern, it appeared to you in a dream, not in my article.

      I offered the entire East Coast of the United States for offshore wind energy production. Just not in this specially strategic place.

      Again, please God don’t answer.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        PowerPoint.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          ” Read the article again. Find where I recommended “no towers anywhere”.”

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8ac9c761b356af4d92593ae19616e2f6c6b0f3a818b934f25734ad639d6448f6.jpg

          1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
            James C. Sherlock

            Go with that.

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            I think you meant that for the Captain.

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          That’s why we comment so much.
          1) to place fact on the article,
          2) to place fact on his comments on the fact s he neglected in the first place.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            These days, and especially so with some folks, just trying to deal with actual facts and not disinformation is the challenge!

            Statements to the effect that the “real” Navy was not allowed to comment , just the Dept of Navy which is beholden to the administration.

            Yep. The “real” Navy has been kept from commenting…

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Well, remember that the Captain knows the “real” Navy is loaded with incompetent boat drivers who will mow the mills down like traffic cones.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            Even if they have flashing lights?

          4. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            “Ooooh, look at the pretty lights! Get closer!”

          5. Sorta the way it went with running into large slow moving objects like supertankers and container ships wasn’t it? Not to mention larger stationary objects like the sea floor.

            By all means consult the operational Navy, especially the skipper of the USS Don Quixote.

            Might be a good nom de plume for Sherlock for this post, Admiral Don Quixote.

          6. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Captain Santos. (contemporary reference). (12)

      2. LarrytheG Avatar

        here’s what you said: ” The Greens. The interesting thing is that the Greens don’t care where such generators are located. They have long made their peace with killing raptor birds ashore and marine mammals in the ocean in a trade for wind power.”

        which is grade A BS that stinks to high heaven.

        The Greens are fine with the govt specifying WHERE the towers can be and not and they DO care about impacts. Do you not think the whale groups are “green”?

        In terms of the Navy and their ability to comment, do you for one minute think the operational Navy had no opportunity to comment?

        Did you not read the article I posted about the Operational Navy’s comments/concerns on west coast offshore wind?

        Do you think they ONLY commented on the west coast and not also the east?

        You’re spewing nonsense and misinformation sir in your usual condescending way IMO.

        You really do need to do a better job of dealing with the issues IMO besides your usual.

        The Navy DOES pay attention – including the operational Navy – to claim otherwise is just patently false and all you gotta do is look at those tunnels if you’re honest.

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      By the Captain’s estimate made last year, we’ve100 years of natural gas left. What’s the hurry, eh?

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        He’s doing his usual spewing of non-facts …. IMO.

        For some reason, Conservatives these days cannot seem to honestly deal with issues…they construct these narratives that are so obviously false, it’s silly.

        this is the operational navy he claims was not really consulted and instead just the “Navy”:

        ” But the Department of Defense made it clear that offshore wind development in the Morro Bay and Diablo Canyon Call Areas would interfere with military operations and training on the Central Coast.”

        He doesn’t even bother to read apparently…

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/89a920d85938b60a11a53ea653096c504fbe998d7ec9367b58bd5bffe9a19f85.jpg

        https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/navy-signals-willingness-to-accept-floating-wind-farms-off-californias-central-coast

        And he’ll no doubt do his butt-hurt complaint about “bitter trolls” again, no doubt.

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          He’s a C&P master. He’s an exemplar of why MSWord is the most dangerous program written.

  4. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    “CVOW, if built, will threaten:
    the entrance to the Chesapeake Bay;
    the point at which international maritime traffic funnels to and from the ports of Norfolk and Baltimore;
    the point at which coastal maritime traffic on the east coast is most dense; and
    the point at which Navy warships and logistics vessels enter and depart the world’s largest naval base.”

    Only that last point is valid. The other shipping is driven by professionals. Only a Navy Captain needs 27 miles of leeway for a 1000’ ship.

    I think if the USS Oriskany in 1963 can enter a WestPac port (Subic?) using the thrust of her air wing’s jet engines to provide lateral steerage, these new kids can handle 27 miles.

    1. Bubba1855 Avatar

      Nancy, keep it up…I love your comments.

      However, no matter what we say here, ‘the train has left the station re OSW’. It’s going to happen one way or the other. Yes, there will be cost over runs, maintenance costs will end up being higher than projected, land line connections/distribution networks will end up costing more than projected and wind reliability will end up being supported by stage 1 natural gas generating stations. Batteries will only be able to facilitate the short term (minute to minute and hour to hour) variability of wind and solar…Hey folks…it’s the new reality.
      I believe that OSW, when it runs will be cheaper than natural gas, but we’ll end up using natural gas to supplement the ‘down side’ of OSW. A day ago I looked at the PJM.com marginal price of electricity…all over PJM the price was over $1000 per whatever…the highest I had ever seen in the last 2 years. Others have said on this blog that we can get power from other sources when Dominion can’t handle it…yep…we can…but at what price? My take is this…OSW will end up being cheaper than coal or natural gas…but we will need standby natural gas at a high price to protect consumers from interruption of power…
      oops…the Chardonnay is running low…
      Hope all of you have had to wonderful Christmas and will have a wonderful holiday.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        re: ” OSW will end up being cheaper than coal or natural gas…but we will need standby natural gas at a high price to protect consumers from interruption of power…”

        gotta think about it this way:

        we already have the gas plants necessary to power the grid. They’re already built and running.

        The OSW (and solar) is to run when they ARE available so that we will burn LESS gas – again – when those fuels are available.

        There is no either/or “contest”.

        It’s just like a plug-in car or dual-fuel furnace.

        You use the lower cost fuel when you can to basically offset burning more expensive fuels – when you can.

        1. Bubba1855 Avatar

          well put …I agree…

        2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          If we already have the gas plants “up and running” and the natural gas to keep them running, how do you explain the massive gap starting to increase after 2028 in the Dominion Energy slide presented to the SCC?

          I pray to God you don’t try to answer.

          Just say “good question”.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            I might believe you more if you provide a link to back up what you’re claiming. When the ACC went down, Dominion was saying they had enough gas and plants as I recall.

            but provide your link and I maybe I’ll answer anyhow just to annoy!

          2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Sherlock did not provide you with his link for a reason…

            https://www.dominionenergy.com/-/media/pdfs/global/company/2021-de-integrated-resource-plan.pdf

            …if he did you might find that Dominion proposed solutions to the issue they cite… we might see how wind and alternative renewables are central to meeting capacity demands…

            Why would he withhold such information? He is dishonest in his hit pieces… just more Sherlock cherry-picking.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3a7a4f373433283fff87b01e175c76cc1cc8a2d38ddbf6bd675b9859ce908268.jpg

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f4f36aeab10b731916dba3f27d8f0c69851d85f9965a0962db671ec51dcb840a.jpg

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f20a0282a7c1f9dfa76bf98dea1f932be162fca2dee6a1c37557ffe4675b7738.jpg

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            He can’t or won’t tell it straight and have honest discussions on the merits.

            It’s apparently what some Conservatives would rather do these days.

          4. James C. Sherlock Avatar
            James C. Sherlock

            That is what, in the vernacular, is called a series of miracles. Which is why I did not report it.

          5. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Go with that….

      2. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        OSW only looks expense because the soot-breathers, like the Captain, compare a full lifecycle cost of OSW to the subsidized cost of hydrocarbons minus environmental impact.

        Captain wrings his hands over the whales and shipping, but mention Exxon Valdez? crickets.

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          Exactly… or Deepwater Horizon… I’ll bet the whales are like “We’ll take the windmills, Monty!”

        2. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
          energyNOW_Fan

          OSW is extreme expensive. Compare to ON-shore wind which is much more cost-competitive. We should be looking for ways to leverage OSW costs by partner with other states/Feds and also doing more ON shore in PA/MD/WV. We have $$$ in the eyes of many blinding us and too much disposable income for public to care about it.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Yeah, but NIMBY. At 27 miles, they’ll see a reliable sea breeze — at least May through September. We’re lucky here. I’ve seen a 3PM sea breeze pop all the way to Richmond. Now Cape Fear, ‘crept for a real hurricane threat, would be ideal, especially down around the corner.

      3. James C. Sherlock Avatar
        James C. Sherlock

        The federal government employs two million civilian workers. “No matter what we say” is the right take with bureaucracies of that scale.

        Your “take” does not matter to the inner workings of that behemoth. It is 99% likely that mine does not either.

        I will ask our duly elected federal Senators and my Representative to weigh in with the executive branch..

        That is how a republic is designed to work.

        We’ll see how it turns out.

        But I will personally actively pursue my position through the public comment period on the construction permits to be hosted by BOEM.

        Asking my two federal Senators and my newly elected Representative to help will only cost me a few stamps.

        Should be fun, at least for me.

        Especially being a pain to BOEM that does not expect any opposition. I’ll report.

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          “ Your “take” does not matter to the inner workings of that behemoth. It is 99% likely that mine does not either.”

          Once again, you exaggerate your importance.

        2. LarrytheG Avatar

          “The U.S. military has about 1.4 million active duty service members and another 800,000 reserve forces. There are approximately 800,000 postal workers. Beyond the military and the postal service, 2 million people—just over 1% of the U.S. workforce or 0.6% of the total population—are permanently employed by the federal government. More than 70% of the federal workforce serves in defense and security agencies like the Department of Defense, the intelligence community agencies, and NASA.”

          https://www.brookings.edu/policy2020/votervital/public-service-and-the-federal-government/

    2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

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      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Turn off your porch light Captain. The 1944 Bluejackets Manual described the submarine as a “coastal patrol boat”. They just didn’t say whose coast.

        That’s what I like about the Navy. Always fighting WWII.

        1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          Nancy, you are reliably still commenting on my last article on this subject.

          This one did not focus on the military threat. Try to keep up.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Your comment did. Try to remember what you wrote 30 minutes ago. Tough, but you can do it.

  5. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Hey Captain! Not to throw cold water on the immense danger of CVOW to shipping, but can you read what it says on your chart adjacent to the area and immediately to the East?

    Hint: Unexploded Depth Charges

  6. Republicans in the right, new House committees might be very interested in this stuff. Especially agencies being rolled by Biden.

  7. James C. Sherlock Avatar
    James C. Sherlock

    27 comments so far. Larry 8, Nancy 9.

    1. And all the while, they are on a blog run by conservatives and claim conservatives don’t believe in free speech.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        like he doesn’t complain about it and advocate “limiting” people to how much they can say or in his butt-hurt “bitter troll” moments talks about just shutting comments down altogether?

        like that?

        I’d say a strong streak towards limiting speech.

      2. LarrytheG Avatar

        like he doesn’t complain about it and advocate “limiting” people to how much they can say or in his butt-hurt “bitter troll” moments talks about just shutting comments down altogether?

        like that?

        I’d say a strong streak towards limiting speech.

    2. LarrytheG Avatar

      and the same guy writing the usual silly offal that begets such comments, then counts them as if he had no role himself!

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        “I never claimed to be Jewish,” Mr. Santos told The Post. “I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jew-ish.’”

        Eh?

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          Pro-Forma these days!

      2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
        James C. Sherlock

        Larry, what would your day be like if I didn’t research and publish articles?

        I’ve got Nancy figured out. He seems depressed. I write to give him reason to live.

        What is your story?

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          I like to see factual and honest discussions on the merits. That’s just not your style is it?

  8. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    He’s one more. Why did you increase the size of CVOW by ~20% on your chart?

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Government chart.

  9. Mr. Sherlock, thank you for writing this excellent article. The title says it all. I appreciate your research, viewpoint, leadership and advocacy on this horrific proposal. And yes, “what in God’s name are they doing?!”

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Thank you, Caroline.

  10. NIMBY Today, NIMBY tomorrow, NIMBY forever. Not a good look.

  11. Sometimes one must spend and waste money to realize how foolish it was.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      If SMRs were truly “real”, it would be no contest because of the difference in energy density which is the significant issue with wind/solar compared to fossil fuels and nukes.

      So rather than oppose something, be in favor of something – like SMRs or fusion and see wind/solar as temporary “bridge” technologies.

      1. SMR’s are doing to come with all of the environmental, emergency preparedness, and security issues of the big reactors. There is no real economic case for SMR’s for household electricity production.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          I don’t think they are nirvana by any stretch but if nothing else when it comes to nukes, I’d like to see modern versions rather than 60+yr old designs.

          Commercial ones are about to be installed, no?

          1. I believe Lake Anna gave up on adding another Reactor due to the lack of a carbon tax. The reactor under construction in Georgia. From Georgia NPR: Vogtle is the only nuclear plant under construction in the United States. Its costs and delays could deter other utilities from building such plants, even though they generate electricity without releasing climate-changing carbon emissions.
            See: https://www.wabe.org/30b-georgia-power-nuclear-plant-delayed-up-to-6-more-months/

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            NA3 has been written about in planning documents as a more modern version of NA1 and 2 and way back when has a price of 13billion.

            In Dominions latest planning document, they talk about developing and deploying SMRs perhaps starting with one at NA.

            One of the significant differences between old and new nukes is that older nukes (like coal plants) take hours/days to come up and are not suited at all modulating in response to dynamic grid changes – even before renewables, just stuff like storms taking out grid infrastructure.

            That’s why gas plants came to be so essential.

            They can do both baseload and fast up and downs.

            My understanding of SMRs is that they too can ramp up and down making them better suited to variable renewables.

            And I hear both sides about SMRs – one side – they’re here and are gonna get commercialized soon and nope, they’ve got issues not the least of which is cost.

            I just see them in the same light as I do wind/solar and fusion and other evolving technologies – don’t rule any of them out yet.

          3. Nuscale has been around since 2007 and has yet to make a dollar from selling an SMR. That is a lot of venture capital that has been burned up on a dream with still no revenue stream in sight.

          4. LarrytheG Avatar

            I agree. Same thing with Fusion, right? Some of these things go forward with Govt sponsored R&D, not private sector venture capital.

      2. Why are SMRs not “real”?

        Fusion is something that may never happen in a controlled environment.

        The “bridge” technology should be natural gas, but the Democrats are doing everything in their power to kill it.

        The result being we’re going all in on electricity, when we don’t have the capacity without coal, which is truly damaging to the environment.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          When you generalize about the Dems, it’s a fail IMO.

          You’re demonizing a whole segment of society as if they all don’t care what happens to all of us – which is dumb on it’s face.

          No One in their right mind is going to destroy our power grid – only in the minds of wacadoodles both right and left – not the mainstream.

          1. “When you generalize about the Dems, it’s a fail.”

            I’m talking about Democrats who hold elected office. Joe Biden is a Democrat, is he not?

            “Biden’s orders direct the secretary of the Interior Department to halt new oil and natural gas leases on public lands and waters, and begin a thorough review of existing permits for fossil fuel development.”

            https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/27/biden-suspends-oil-and-gas-drilling-in-series-of.html

          2. “Can you reconcile what you provided with this:”

            Yes!

            https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-BIDEN/POLL/nmopagnqapa/

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            So this is really political for you, right? It doesn’t really matter if Biden is expanding oil and gas leases or not.

            ” The “bridge” technology should be natural gas, but the Democrats are doing everything in their power to kill it.

            The result being we’re going all in on electricity when we don’t have the capacity without coal which is truly damaging to the environment.”

            The Dems as well as others who are concerned about climate change want to start to transition over the next 3 decades – not shut it down now.

            And it’s a goal not a drop dead no matter what thing, it’s dependent on how we go and we adjust as we go just like we’ve done with the ozone holes and CFCs, and coal, and dozens of chemicals that we are gradually transitioning away from.

            It’s the right thing to do and it’s what we’ve always done over time to reduce pollution and protect the world we all depend on for life itself.

            You guys have always been on the “wrong” side and you are again. No surprise.

            was that a generalization. Yep? You do. I do. You quite obviously have no interest in discussion on the merits and probably are a Trumper, right?

          4. It’s political for the Democrats, yes.

            You send me graphics and links about fossil fuel leasing on Federal lands and apparently failed to notice the dates.

            Link #1 was October 7, 2022

            Link #2 was October 6, 2022

            Anything significant about that time period? Check out this story and maybe it will come to you.

            “DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Saudi Arabia said Thursday that the U.S. had urged the kingdom to postpone a decision by OPEC and its allies — including Russia — to cut oil production by a month. Such a delay could have helped reduce the risk of a spike in gas prices ahead of the U.S. midterm elections next month.”

            https://fortune.com/2022/10/13/saudi-arabia-opec-oil-production-biden-white-house-november-midterm-elections/

          5. LarrytheG Avatar

            The point is that the gas and oil leases did get expanded.

            That’s the truth , not what you said earlier than he did not.

            Here’s another

            “Biden plan could allow new offshore drilling in Gulf of Mexico
            His campaign promise to end fossil fuel development on public lands was thwarted by U.S. courts, high gas prices and Russia’s domination of Western European energy.

            BY NICHOLAS KUSNETZ, INSIDE CLIMATE NEWS JULY 2, 20223 PM CENTRAL
            This week, the Biden administration took two of its biggest steps yet to open public lands to fossil fuel development, holding its first onshore lease sales and releasing a proposed plan for offshore drilling that could open parts of the Gulf of Mexico and Alaska’s Cook Inlet to leasing through 2028.

            The moves run counter to President Biden’s campaign pledge to halt new oil and gas development on federal lands and waters, and come as the president is under mounting political pressure to address high energy prices.

            Biden faces a range of conflicting interests on climate change, energy and the economy as he tries to lower gasoline prices and increase energy exports to counter Russia’s dominance of western European energy, all without abandoning the ambitious climate agenda he brought to the White House. On Thursday, the Supreme Court dealt another blow to that agenda with a 6-3 decision that restricted the Environmental Protection Agency’s ability to curb climate pollution from the power sector.”

            https://www.texastribune.org/2022/07/02/biden-gulf-drilling-leasing-oil/

            This demonstrates the difference between what is a goal and what actually does happen.

            He did not “shut down”, he did the opposite.

            And that’s how it will play out in the future also with the Dems.

            Trumper , right?

            be honest…

          6. “The moves run counter to President Biden’s campaign pledge to halt new oil and gas development on federal lands and waters, and come as the president is under mounting political pressure to address high energy prices.

            Biden and the Democrats will only back off from their ideological extremes when sufficient pressure forces them to. That’s the true bottom line taken from your own quote.

            You may not like my comments or those of others on the conservative side, but collectively we are among those making an impact for good.

            What you say you want with respect to gradual change in energy, would have zero chance of happening, but for pressure from the opposition.

          7. LarrytheG Avatar

            THe point here is that the mainstream Dems which includes Biden is not the far left extremes.

            The mainstream believes that Climate Change is REAL and that we do need to act but they’re not on a suicide mission.

            We don’t know what we can do but we set goals and do what we can when we can towards them just like we have done before with coal plants and ozone holes.

            Conversely, on the right, the opposition to change has been with us all along from the “war on coal” to Ozone skeptics.

            The vast majority of the American public DOES believe there is climate change and does want us to respond to it but they’re not on board with “destroying the grid” which is how the right plays boogeyman politics now as in the past.

          8. Biden is no moderate. That’s a complete fantasy.

            Perhaps he was in the past, but those days are long gone.

          9. LarrytheG Avatar

            That’s in your mind more than reality and it’s due to what you read and believe from far right sources IMO.

            He is far preferable to Trump , no contest.

            He is aggressive about climate change but he is kept in check by realities as well as Congress as demonstrated by him backing down on the gas and oil leases.

          10. “Can you reconcile what you provided with this:”

            Read the second article again. Those actions were mandated by the “Inflation Reduction Act” remember that?

            Joe Manchin wouldn’t sign on until the Democrats moderated their extremist energy policies, and they needed his vote to pass it.

            Check out Manchin’s Press Release:

            https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/manchins-inflation-reduction-act-will-lower-energy-and-healthcare-costs-increase-domestic-energy-production-and-pay-down-national-debt

            Were it not for one or two Democrats, that would not have happened.

            Congressional Democrats as a whole are extremists with respect to fossil fuel production.

          11. “When you generalize about the Dems, it’s a fail”

            Another example of Joe Biden’s stupidity.

            “The Biden administration plans to ban all federal buildings from using fossil fuels. Under the proposal, federal buildings will need to eliminate their use of any energy from fossil fuels by 2030.”

            “Shepstone also pointed out that in terms of U.S. carbon dioxide emissions, the nation is a leader in reducing them, largely because of the switch from coal-fired electrical generation to natural gas-power. Per-capita CO2 emissions are now lower than they were in the 1990s.”

            “I happen to believe we have no CO2 crisis, but let’s assume we do,” Shepstone said. “Natural gas accomplishes more to reduce it than anything else. Eliminating it and putting pressure to continually constrict, constrict, constrict natural gas, it’s just going to lead to disaster. It’s just foolish.”

            https://cowboystatedaily.com/2022/12/08/no-more-natural-gas-biden-plan-would-ban-all-federal-buildings-from-using-fossil-fuels-by-2030/

          12. “When you generalize about the Dems, it’s a fail”

            Here’s another one from California – a state dominated by Democrats.

            SACRAMENTO, Calif. — An epic heat wave this summer brought California’s power grid to the brink of collapse, and put its governor on defense as he touted the state’s nation-leading climate goals.

            https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/23/californias-lofty-climate-goals-clash-with-reality-00058466

  12. disqus_VYLI8FviCA Avatar
    disqus_VYLI8FviCA

    This is such a bad idea it could only come from government and only survive with government regulation, laws, mandates. The market wold never tolerate such an inefficient use of capital. What a waste. Hold on to your wallets, the fun is just beginning on this boondoggle.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      sorta like Nukes?

  13. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    You all recall Sherlock’s piece shouting that plans to lease Virginia’s offshore waters to oil and gas production must not happen… right…?? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2f1ee2dd2fffb7ee9e567eb4d1a9fb15187a7b413d92dbeb3ee75694a6bbb507.jpg

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      Wait! What? would that mean more whale-killing stuff that would also sink Navy ships? geeze…

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        I guess he just wasn’t interested in that particular variety of cherry, eh…?

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          Lord. And the man is adding comment counts to his spreadsheet no doubt as we speak!

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            And he can’t count. This makes 11 according to Disquick, not 16.

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            And he can’t count. This makes 11 according to Disquick, not 16.

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      My dollar to the Captain’s dime, there’s more wind than oil off Va. Maybe we can put a windmill in the Captain’s yard and get him to read his hot air out loud to it?

    3. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      We all have our axe to grind. He was more fun when he wrote about things he knew even less about.

  14. James C. Sherlock Avatar
    James C. Sherlock

    New score. Now, with 64 total comments: Nancy 16 vs. Larry 19.

    What should we estimate as the over/under?

    1. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      You could lower the count by scoring just relevant comments. Then it would be….0-0?

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        as opposed to “insight” from Sherlock? 😉

        1. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          He explains why he thinks what he thinks. It is not snark, like Nancy, or mindless repetition of your beloved government’s talking points. It is a scam. Period. The models are models and are wrong. Even Japan is waking up and re-commissioning its nuclear.

      2. William O'Keefe Avatar
        William O’Keefe

        Amen to that!

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          Or you could try writing a more factual narrative to start with and not have all those comments,

          1. William O'Keefe Avatar
            William O’Keefe

            Larry, you are good for comic relief.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            and you are good for ignorance and clueless nimrod.

    2. LarrytheG Avatar

      I think we’re getting some insight into what kind of “commander” you may have been. Eh?

      And in terms of word-count, my GAWD, you are the KING of bloviation , hands down!

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Ah yes Captain Queeg, playing with your little steel balls again I see.

      2. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        Famously noted as “nattering nabobs of negativity.”

      3. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Good journalist though. Writes at a fletcher grade 6.

        1. Never heard of fletcher grade, but Flesch-Kincaid is 9.3.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Oh bad then. Writing over the heads of Va. Republicans.

    3. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Ah yes Captain Queeg, playing with your little steel balls again I see.

      Your problem is clear, this makes 10.

  15. James C. Sherlock Avatar
    James C. Sherlock

    See the update

  16. William O'Keefe Avatar
    William O’Keefe

    James, this is a very thoughtful and well researched article. There is a lot for BOEM and the GA to think about. It is too bad that Nancy Naive and Larry G waste so much time with snarky and irrelevant comments that only serve to distract.
    Does anyone have an idea of where the GA’s emission deadlines came from? Dominion’s goal should be to provide reliable, low cost electricity to all while taking advantage of proven technology to reduce carbon and methane emissions.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      It’s too bad you guys have trouble dealing with the issue in a factual and honest manner – that then leads to “comments”.

      Just the cherry-picking and disinformation is over the top.

      And ignorance about how NEPA works to boot.

      re: ” Dominion’s goal should be to provide reliable, low cost electricity to all while taking advantage of proven technology to reduce carbon and methane emissions.”

      Yes! As opposed to continuing to rely solely on fossil fuels for decades?

      1. William O'Keefe Avatar
        William O’Keefe

        Why don’t you try to write what you consider to be a “factual narrative” on energy?

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          Why don’t you and Sherlock to START with blogs to begin with, so the comments are on the merit and not dealing with the cherry-picking, disinformation and counter-factuals ?

          The “navy” stuff he is spewing is patently false and I’ve provided links to factual information on the issue that he chooses to ignore so he can continue with the false narrative.

          You get comments when you do that.

          Do a serious and honest blog post and you’ll get relevant comments – on the merits,

          Ya’ll just can’t seem to do that.

  17. James C. Sherlock Avatar
    James C. Sherlock

    With 109 comments total, Larry has surged into the lead with 36 of them. Nancy can’t keep up; I counted 24.

    May have missed some – hard not to lose track in that race.

    Together, Larry and Nancy have posted easily more that half of the total comments.

    That does not include my 12 responses, nearly all to them, and my three scoresheets on those two including this one.

    Well done, boys. Hell of an effort.

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