Dominion Program to Bury Lines Halfway to Goal

By Steve Haner

Just over a decade ago, Dominion Energy Virginia announced plans to spend about $1.75 billion of its ratepayers’ dollars on a program to bury about 4,000 miles of its residential service lines underground. As of the end of last year, the tally was just over 2,000 miles buried at a total cost of $994 million.

The original goal was reported by Jim Bacon, who was initially favorable to the idea. The update comes from an annual report dated March 29 and posted by the State Corporation Commission. This reporter, who admittedly already lived in neighborhoods with underground lines installed at the cost of the developer, was skeptical of paying to bury somebody else’s lines, and this new report doesn’t ease the irritation.

For the individual customers who have benefited (the total number mentioned in the document is 54,000 accounts), fewer and shorter duration outages can be shown. For other customers downstream on the same lines (another 46,000) similar significant improvements are seen. So, 100,000 of the company’s 2.6 million customer accounts have seen direct or downstream benefits.

The program’s cost has been a steady presence on all 2.6 million monthly bills. The current cost is $1.99 on that not-really-typical monthly residential bill of 1,000 kilowatt hours. For a large industrial customer the cost is $1.38 per 1,000 kwh. But a factory might buy one million kilowatt hours in a month and pay an extra $1,380 to bury residential lines.

The merry-go-round continues (2,000 miles to go on the original goal), and Dominion has an application pending to continue the program and raise those rates as of August of this year.

The company is currently in phase seven of the program. Phase one ended in August of 2016. The individual phase seven projects to date are detailed in the final pages of the report. One project might serve a single house or two, and others appear to benefit a whole block, subdivision or apartment house (272 units in one case.)

Over the years, Northern Virginia has received 525 miles placed underground out of the total of 2,028 miles buried, and the Richmond Metro region 471 miles. Southeastern Virginia has seen only 270 miles buried, but underground lines may have been more common there from the start. Even in neighborhoods covered, about 10% of customers retained overhead lines. They are more likely to remain in rural areas (40% in the Valley and Piedmont regions.)

Not surprisingly, the projects with few homes per mile or per transformer cost way more than those with more density. The project burying the lines to 272 homes cost about $2,000 per unit, but another project cost $333,000 with one customer. If the three customers downstream are added to the numerator on that project, it comes it at just $80,000 each, but in another case $117,000 was spent on one house with nobody else downstream. Five digits per customer are common on the list.

Dominion does indicate the reliability benefits as measured so far are dramatic. The service interruption minutes on average dropped from almost 700 minutes per year to about 2-3. The average time to restore service was cut in half. This is not a surprise to those already living in areas with underground service (which, again, we paid for ourselves in the price of the house.)

Fortunately, in the years this program has been underway, the utility has not experienced a real weather emergency, another hurricane, tornado outbreak or a repeat of the 2012 derecho. That could be the real test of whether this has been money well spent by those of us not gaining new buried powerlines.

This is one of the many utility programs that has received favorable consideration in state law from the General Assembly, with its most active patron being former Democratic Senate Leader Richard Saslaw of Fairfax. And it earns the same roughly 10% profit margin as the rest of the company’s capital programs, although how this shares the same level of risk as a new power plant is hard to see.

Do most of you care? Probably not. It is just another hidden $20-40 in cost per year (more if you are a business customer, of course.) It is just another government program, charging A to help B with a healthy skim for overhead and profit. Once established, they do not go away.


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66 responses to “Dominion Program to Bury Lines Halfway to Goal”

  1. John Harvie Avatar
    John Harvie

    The Dominion hater is at it again.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Could be worse. I could write about the stock price.

      1. John Harvie Avatar
        John Harvie

        No longer own it fortunately.

    2. Matt Adams Avatar
      Matt Adams

      What’s not to dislike about Dominion, they offer substandard service for a high price. They pass off all capital project costs to rate payers and absolve themselves of any risk to their shareholders.

      In essence they operate as the Government.

      1. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        And you didn’t mention the massive political contributions once.

        1. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          Is it sad or just par for the course that I didn’t need to mention that?

      2. DJRippert Avatar
        DJRippert

        But their executives certainly don’t get paid like government workers.

        1. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          That depends on how you look at it. At the Federal Level House members become Millionaires making $174,000 a year. That just ignores the fringe benefits of become stock market savants when ascending to that position. I mean how else do you annually out perform the SPY.

        2. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          That depends on how you look at it. At the Federal Level House members become Millionaires making $174,000 a year. That just ignores the fringe benefits of become stock market savants when ascending to that position. I mean how else do you annually out perform the SPY.

      3. how_it_works Avatar
        how_it_works

        I was going to say, from what I see, Dominion operates like a Virginia government agency.

        I’ve had Manassas City utility power, they seem to have a lot of outages too.

        One of their (Manassas city’s) outages resulted in the phone system which answers their outage reporting line going down.

        Guess they don’t bother to test the UPS or the generator.. why, that’s like work, and you’ll never be fired for not doing it. (I *am* making the assumption that they have both of those things, but it *is* Manassas…)

  2. Steve, your post implies that the primary benefit of burying lines underground accrues to the benefit of the houses directly served. No question, those lucky few benefit the most. But as I recall, Dominion’s logic was that there are a small number of circuits that account for a disproportionately large number of outages. If a widespread outage occurs, taking those local outages off the table eliminates a lot of the work that it takes Dominion to get electric service restored for everyone. In theory, everyone benefits when all-around service is restored more quickly.

    That’s the theory. Has it turned out that way in practice? Has the average electricity outage declined overall, not just for the lucky customers whose lines got buried? Those are the numbers I’d like to see.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      It is not a long report. I didn’t see that clearly answered. The focus seemed to be on the customers who got the buried lines, but check it out. SCC staff may have looked at that at some point.

  3. how_it_works Avatar
    how_it_works

    I live 6 miles from the substation that serves my house. All but the last few hundred feet are overhead.

    My power company is NOVEC.

    I have lived here for almost 7 years.

    My power rarely goes out. It might have flickered once during the snowstorm that caused multiday outages for Dominion customers.

    1. Matt Adams Avatar
      Matt Adams

      As someone who’s had both NOVEC and Dominion (twice), I prefer NOVEC. You’re correct, rarely lost power under NOVEC.

      1. how_it_works Avatar
        how_it_works

        NOVEC has fewer outages than Dominion despite serving a more rural customer base, with more overhead lines.

        1. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          I never had any services issues with NOVEC, Dominion is an entirely different story and I live near transmission lines.

          1. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I’ve had two problems with them….first one I’ve had with NOVEC was getting service established to a new construction house…that process seemed to take way longer and involve more paperwork than it should have.

            Also, years ago, my first electric bill with them was something like $2,000 and I had to go to their office to get it resolved (someone either misread the meter or incorrectly entered the reading). Getting it resolved over the phone didn’t seem like it was gonna happen…

            Other than that, they’ve been great.

            Oh, they sent me a NOVEC solar calculator as a “We’re sorry” gift over the electric bill problem….it got damaged in the mail and didn’t work.

            It’s the thought that counts, I guess.

    2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      NOVEC has a long and storied history of good service.

      1. how_it_works Avatar
        how_it_works

        I heard that VEPCO (Dominion Power) wanted to buy out Tri-County Electric Coop but they merged with Prince William Electric coop to form NOVEC instead.

  4. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Well, looks better.

  5. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    It’s way more cost-effective to bury the lines BEFORE a development goes in rather than after – duh!

    I have no problem with 1. regs requiring buried lines for new development and 2. letting the utility decide how to do it – the
    most cost-effective way (long term).

    What I’d object to is burying lines for aesthetics rather than practical and financial reasons.

    We also have overhead lines cutting through the subdivision and REC, for years, has sent crews out to thin out vegetation, remove encroaching trees, etc. More recently, they have been swapping out poles for higher towers – which I support but apparently in some places in NoVa there is significant opposition to doing so and they want these lines also “buried” primarily because of aesthetics AND they lobby and pressure legislators to get the utilities to do this – which I oppose.

    I still point out in terms of overall costs – that most of us pay somewhere around 25 cents an hour for electricity. Think about it, compared to other costs and compared to not having electricity.

    And many places in the world end up with both – much higher electricity costs and unreliable and/or spotty service.

    We ARE … CLEARLY spoiled when we carp about electricity IMO.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      I’d really scream if our electric bill hit $180 per month (25 cents per hour). But I could pay it. I’m sure nobody believes it, but I keep up this drumbeat to advocate for those for whom a $180 electric bill is a big chunk of their monthly income and means less for food or other needs. This program is just one of several where they are paying, not for electricity, but for some benefit to others with noisy lobbyists.

      I got an email offline from somebody who has a rural home that benefitted from newly buried lines. He may not have realized it was a six or even seven figure expense paid by others.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        I think more than a few folks pay MORE for cable TV than electricity. Yeah, I can see the argument of ” one more bill” but geeze – anyone remember what it’s like to go hours, days without electricity?

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          A hurricane or derecho will do that again one day. Scary global warming, right? 🙂 As to the cable companies, yes, they are far more shameful in their obvious greed, but are not selling a basic necessity. An antenna still gets you many channels.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            any kind of “disaster” , NOT global warming but includes vehicles taking down power poles, transformers going bad, etc…

            we pay MORE for non-essential stuff like Cable TV than we do for life-essential services and STILL _itch and complain about.

            Whaddya going to do?

            25 cents an hour and you’d think they’d want your arm and leg!

          2. Stephen Haner Avatar
            Stephen Haner

            A typical Democrat who only pretends to care about the po’ folk.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            If you REALLY cared, you’d be talking about APCO’s rates and the “po” folk!

          4. WayneS Avatar

            He didn’t say he really cared, he said you don’t really care…

            😉

  6. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    Sounds like ineffective negotiations by our government. If burying the lines reduces costs (trimming trees, etc) and increases revenue (selling electricity 100% of the time) then Dominion should have been required to commit to the benefits.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      If I’m reading the report correctly, one of the expenses is paying for easements. Along with a free underground line, the homeowner also gets paid for the easement? Cool. (And some lawyer gets paid to record it.)

      1. how_it_works Avatar
        how_it_works

        I had to give NOVEC an underground easement to get power from them. (I made sure it was only an underground easement, as I paid extra for underground service).

        1. Lefty665 Avatar
          Lefty665

          If I were running a power company that’s sure one of the things I’d do to reduce the cost of easements. “If you want power, give us the easement to bring it to your house. If you don’t want to do that, well that’s ok too. Have a nice day.”

          It may be that the easements they have to pay for are to run their main lines and to cross 3rd party property to get from their lines to where they are providing service.

          1. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            In the case of NOVEC many of these easements have resulted in what they call “cross country” distribution lines, where they cross through fields and backyards as opposed to being adjacent to a road. These lines are more difficult to access in the event of an outage..

            Even with that, though, they excel at keeping the lights on.

          2. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            I had a gate into the field where REC periodically needed access to their service. Made it easier for them.

            I was looking out my kitchen door one day during a thunderstorm when a bolt of lightning hit their line. Flash, bang, then twang like it was a big guitar string, 🙂

      2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        Don’t forget the surveyor’s cut. George Washington would approve.

  7. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
    f/k/a_tmtfairfax

    After the infamous Derecho, where our entire neighborhood in McLean lost power for up to a couple of days, I was talking with a member of an out-of-state repair crew. The man told me that he and his co-workers love Dominion Power because they get lots of travel and overtime pay fixing plant and restoring power since Dominion doesn’t trim trees to industry standards. Dominion is a garbage company that no one from either side of the aisle will challenge.

    I’m happy to have my electricity come from Wake Electric Membership Company and a whole-house backup generator.

    1. how_it_works Avatar
      how_it_works

      My first experience with Dominion was a new house where the power went out for at least an hour every time it rained. This went on for several years before they actually fixed the root cause of the problem.

      A state with a largely agricultural economy doesn’t necessarily need a reliable power utility…

      1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
        f/k/a_tmtfairfax

        We lost power 7 times in about 15 months before we moved from McLean to North Carolina. Some were short outages; others weren’t.

        1. how_it_works Avatar
          how_it_works

          That’s ridiculous. Why is that poor service accepted and why can’t Dominion do better?

          One summer night at my dad’s house the Dominion power went off at 9pm and didn’t come back on till well after midnight.

          It wasn’t windy and it wasn’t raining.

      2. Lefty665 Avatar
        Lefty665

        A state with a largely agricultural economy doesn’t necessarily need a reliable power utility…

        Those of us in rural areas need reliable power every bit as much as urban areas and the ‘burbs, and more. We may not panic quite as badly when it goes out, but that’s a question of character, not a measure of need.

        We all depend on reliable electricity for light and household power. In addition, those of us in the country need reliable electricity to pump water out of the well to drink, bathe, flush toilets and irrigate. Many of us also use electricity for things like cooking and heating that y’all get through gas utilities. Many farm processes also depend on reliable electricity. Dairy is a prime example, think milking machines and refrigeration.

        To suggest that we don’t need reliable electrical service is piffle.

        1. how_it_works Avatar
          how_it_works

          Tell the Virginia politicians that have done nothing about Dominion’s reliability problems. I think the attitude might well be along the lines of, “We got along just fine without electricity for 300 years, what’s a one-week outage?”

          1. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            What I objected to was your comment that rural areas don’t need reliable electricity. It had nothing to do with Dominion. Most of Virginia’s rural/agricultural areas are not Dominion service. They are coops and other power companies.

            Your complaint about Dominion’s unreliability may be well taken, but I don’t have an opinion on that. I have not been their customer for more than 50 years. Actually that’s not quite so, I had a townhouse in the Fan when I had two kids in school at VCU. The power there was reliable, and Dominion was easy to deal with, especially compared to the city Dept of Public Utilities for water and sewer.

          2. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            My comment that rural areas don’t need reliable electricity was facetious. I don’t actually believe that. I do believe that others believe that, and it’s one reason why Dominion continues to be the unreliable utility that they are.

            There is a map of utility service areas in Virginia. From that I saw that Dominion does serve a lot of rural areas.

            I would expect that the rural areas served by cooperatives have more reliable service than rural areas served by Dominion. One of those is owned by their customers, which should result in better service. It does for NOVEC.

          3. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            We all need to remember the or 🙂 clarifier sometimes.

            Although Dominion does provide service to rural areas, the bulk of rural service is other providers. Rural Virginia is not Dominion’s primary service area. Again, your comment on rural needs did not reference a provider. It did assert that rural/agricultural residents do not need reliable electricity.

            Again, your quote that I took exception to and that is not on its face facetious:

            A state with a largely agricultural economy doesn’t necessarily need a reliable power utility…”

          4. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            Here’s a link to the map. Yellow is Dominion. I see decent amount of territory I know to be rural in their service area.

            https://www.scc.virginia.gov/getattachment/46ad3b08-b38f-4d1d-be3b-a224e246ec7c/el_map.pdf

            A reliable power utility is something that, although I don’t have any evidence to prove it, likely enhances a given states economic prospects.

            Businesses don’t like unreliable power, and I suspect that it is one factor that they consider when deciding where to set up shop.

          5. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Expect you’re right that businesses like reliable power even more than residences. Glad I don’t live in the yellow area. The Coop has been a good provider.

            From the map Virginia is as I indicated, the bulk of rural Virginia is served by providers other than Dominion. They are primarily rural electric coops and Appalachian power. Dominion provides most of its power to urban areas and their surrounds. It does serve scattered rural areas, but none of southwest Virginia.

            Interesting map, thanks for posting it. It clearly shows how Virginia got widespread rural electrification almost a century ago. The vehicle was mostly rural electrical coops (and Appellation Power) in areas with low density where there was not enough usage to pay for generation or transmission infrastructure like VEPCO had in urban areas.

            Old farm house I had showed several waves of electrification. The first was one overhead light in each room (interestingly they switched the neutral). That is still running on knob and tube. Next pass was a receptacle in each room run on BX (scary stuff). Subsequently there were more receptacles on ungrounded Romex and eventually the installation of electric baseboard heat. All the joints on that were soldered, then wire nutted and taped. No boxes.

            The service panel that looked like it went in with the electric heat likely in the late ’50s was on the outside of the house directly below the service drop, and water infiltration had frozen several of the breakers on. First thing I did was set a new breaker panel in the basement. It was an interesting “learning experience” on how residential power in rural Virginia evolved. It always made me nervous.

        2. Irene Leech Avatar
          Irene Leech

          Not to mention the livestock some of us raise who must have water in all seasons! And if we’ve drilled wells and put watering troughs in fields as we fenced livestock out of rivers, creeks, etc., we’re dependent upon electricity to get the water in the trough. You can’t farm without dependable water.

          Although many farmers get service from electric cooperatives, those utilities have to buy power from Dominion and AEP. I’m on the smallest one, and while we use less power for our whole system than the cement plant nearby, when the line from Dominion is down, it affects all of us. In the past, Dominion had employees living around the area to arrive quickly. Today we have to wait for them to travel to our site. And we won’t even talk about how we pay more per KWH at wholesale rates than that cement plant pays retail.

          My neighbors and I live with the highest KWH rates in the state because we’re the ones the IOUs didn’t want to serve and have the fewest people to serve per mile of line. AEP serves the part of our farm’s original footprint that wasn’t built until modern times. AEP cut our 1797 house out of the farm but claimed as much of it as they could, hoping to never serve it. My neighbors on AEP have more and longer outages than we have by a long shot.

  8. William O'Keefe Avatar
    William O’Keefe

    Dominion has no competition and hence no incentive to be cost-effective. It just does what it and the GA wants and customers pay the bill.

  9. Theron Keller Avatar
    Theron Keller

    I would love to see a map of where these lines have been buried. Surely Dominion has one.

  10. WayneS Avatar

    I found out my house is served by a ‘single-customer’ transformer a few years ago when the thing caught fire and exploded one day and I was the only one in the area who lost power.

    I’ll be one of those expensive-to-fix customers, but it should be noted that I never asked Dominion to bury my power service. Based on where I live, I expect it will be a long time before the power service lines serving my area are moved underground – but I’m not concerned because I don’t really care whether they do it or not.

    1. how_it_works Avatar
      how_it_works

      It’s pretty common in rural areas to have one transformer per customer. The houses are often not all built at the same time and are farther apart, both of which make it difficult to share a transformer with 2 or more houses.

      1. WayneS Avatar

        There is one neighbor close enough to me that we could potentially share a transformer, but to your point, I don’t think our houses were built at the same time, or even in the same decade.

        Maybe Dominion will put us on the same transformer when they get around to putting our stuff underground – it would certainly save them some money.

        1. how_it_works Avatar
          how_it_works

          The houses in Colvin Farms on Valley View Drive in Nokesville share a transformer, one 50kVA transformer per 3 homes. They are on 10 acre lots, but were all built at the same time.

          NOVEC did a project just outside Manassas which involved replacing 60-year-old poles and when they were done, they had tripled the number of transformers. Previously 12 homes per transformer, now only 4. The original transformers were probably a tad overloaded due to air conditioners which didn’t exist when they were originally sized and installed. You could see the lights flicker on hot summer days as the AC units cycled on and off.

          My house has it’s own 37.5kVA transformer. Probably would’ve gotten a 25kVA except for the heatpump’s aux heat coils.

          1. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Interesting watching what were mostly rural electric coops adapt to higher density and increased service needs as their areas develop isn’t it?

            How much did they increase their feed when they tripled the number of transformers?

            Folks have not begun to grapple with the profound change in service needed to add 500k public fast EV chargers. That’s a whole different grid. We can squeak by with a lot of home chargers that use the equivalent of a dryer circuit for overnight charging. Those clusters of public fast chargers are a lotta watts, and they have to handle all of them plugging in at once.

          2. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            They probably did not need to increase the feed even though they tripled the number of transformers, the demand/load didn’t change that much if at all over the few months the project took.

            They may need to increase it in the future, though, if EVs take off. Though this is an older neighborhood and the folks who can afford EVs now mostly don’t live there.

          3. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            You don’t think they’re sizing for the potential increased load the additional transformers enable? Even if the new transformers are smaller than the old ones they’ve still probably at least doubled the potential load.

          4. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I’m sure they put larger primary conductor in as part of the new installation, but I doubt the size of the upstream conductors has been increased, at least I’ve not seen any work done in that regard (the substation is a couple miles up the road and it’s all overhead so you can see what they’re doing when they work on it).

            EDIT: I don’t expect significant increases in load until these old 1960s era houses are town down and replaced with newer larger houses. Who knows when that will start happening….most already have been upgraded with central air which is the largest load growth since they were built. I don’t see significant uptake in EVs in that area for a while, which will probably correspond with tear-downs and larger houses and wealthier people moving in.

            EDIT2: I think another reason they increased the number of transformers (they went to one transformer per pole) is to eliminate secondary 120/240V distribution wiring between poles. I get the impression that power companies prefer to have as little of that as possible.

          5. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            E2 – Sure, lower voltages mean larger, more expensive conductors and increased losses. 🙂

          6. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            There’s also a danger that a failure of the (usually 7.2kV; could be lower or higher) primary wire will cause it to land on the 120/240V secondary conductors, which could cause serious damage to the customer’s equipment, if it doesn’t also cause a fire.

            For this reason many utilities put the neutral/ground (it’s technically a multigrounded neutral) wire above the two hot (120V/240V) wires in hopes that any failing primary wire will land on that and blow the fuse or trip the circuit breaker, without further damage. NOVEC does it this way.

  11. Lefty665 Avatar
    Lefty665

    Got a friend in Richmond whose power is in the process of being buried. The announcement was that it would be buried in the easement at the back of their lots where the current above ground lines run. Now they’re digging up the street in front, starting with holes down to the current gas and water lines. He has tried to ask why the change and what is going on, but there is no one who speaks English on any of the crews. One of the two numbers listed on the notification has been disconnected and the other gives the dreaded “Due to a higher than usual number of calls…” and a forever wait listening to muzac. He’s frustrated. I’m sure he will be pleased when I tell him that this wondrousness is only costing around $100k per house.

    I escaped VEPCO almost 50 years ago and have been a happy coop customer for that time. They have been a good provider at moderate cost. We had a local outage yesterday. REC was on site in less than half an hour and restored power in less than another half hour. Doesn’t get any better than that. Now if they will just get off their butts and string fiber on their poles and get me off this pokey DSL I’ll be truly happy with them.

  12. WhatMeWorryVA Avatar
    WhatMeWorryVA

    My lines have been buried in Westham for close to 2 years.

    Not a transformer to be had so NOTHING is hooked up.

    So we are still living with overhead lines.

    No real firm ETA from dominion either.

  13. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    So, another well-reasoned argument for an Earth Ship.

  14. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    One more time just for those not paying attention… again.
    https://www.epi.org/publication/econ-performance-pres-admin/

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      And it’s a really simple thing. When you spend govt money on things that increase productivity – like more/better education, health care and benefits for workers – they contribute higher productivity.

      As opposed to the mindset of ” it’s all mine, keep your hands off of it and tax me less so I can get more”.

      one simple example. Health care for workers.

      😉

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Or, already been buried power lines. “I got mine. You get yours.”

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