Percentage of Virginians reporting difficulty in paying for electricity, including those setting their thermostats to uncomfortable levels. From expert testimony filed by the University of Michigan’s Justin Schott, based on census data. Click for larger view.

By Steve Haner

First published this morning by the Thomas Jefferson Institute for Public Policy.

The front line in the war against fossil fuels in Virginia has now shifted back to the State Corporation Commission, and as usual only one side has fielded an army and brought heavy weapons to the battlefield.  Those who might defend the continued use of coal and natural gas are missing in action.  

Various interest groups seeking to end the use of coal and natural gas to generate electricity in Virginia earlier this month filed expert testimony from eight witnesses. All ask the SCC to reject Dominion Energy Virginia’s proposed 2023 integrated resource plan (IRP).  The utility’s decades-long capital plan, as previously reported, has reversed course and now calls for retaining and even adding to the utility’s fleet of natural gas generators.  

One group, representing Virginia’s data center industry, filed testimony from its president in support of Dominion’s proposed generation additions.  “The bottom line is that Dominion’s investments are required to support and grow the economic drivers of the 21st century,” wrote Josh Levi of the Data Center Coalition.  

But Levi testifies mainly about the economic benefits of his industry, not actually being disputed in front of the Commission.  His testimony avoids the key question being posed to the regulators:  whether intermittent wind and solar generation are sufficiently reliable, as the environmental groups claim, or whether Dominion is wise to maintain its more dependable natural gas plants or even add to them.    

No other business or industry group with a major stake in Virginia’s future energy choices offered expert testimony, but there is still time to join the debate.  The expert testimony on the case record can (and should) be supplemented by public comments.  The portal for groups or individuals to express their views is here.  The deadline for public comments is September 12.   

Dominion can file rebuttal testimony responding to the eight experts, and in the next few days the SCC staff will be filing its own observations and recommendations on the IRP. A hearing is set for September 18-19.  

The massive IRP before the regulators is just a plan, and even if approved as “reasonable and prudent” it binds nobody to anything.  If Dominion wants to build a new natural gas or nuclear facility, that will be a fresh application.   But Dominion’s retreat from its previous position that natural gas could be abandoned is important.  

The 2020 Virginia Clean Economy Act allowed some flexibility on future natural gas use to maintain system reliability, but the overall goal of ending fossil fuels was clear.  When they controlled the legislature and Governor’s office, Democrats added other statutes stating the same goal.  The SCC is being asked to enforce them, and a ruling against the IRP on that basis could seal the fate of fossil fuel generation.  

Then there are the political implications, as Virginia’s Democrats have now made a central message of their promises to end predicted “climate change” by forbidding fossil fuels in all forms. So, three environmental activist groups and a renewable energy coalition took up the challenge and recruited eight experts among them, from as far away as Massachusetts and California. 

The hundreds of pages filed in opposition can be summarized into a handful of basic arguments. 

First, they claim that Dominion is overstating the future load growth it is predicting, much of it tied to the expansion of those energy-hungry data centers.  If Dominion’s future load doesn’t grow as predicted, that undercuts the need for maintaining existing coal or natural gas plants, adding a new plant or adding nuclear generation.   

One of the witnesses on that point is Gregory Abbott, a retired SCC analyst now hired by Appalachian Voices, who also believes there is a disconnect between the data center growth expected in Northern Virginia and Dominion’s plan, which seeks to add a new gas-fired plant in the Richmond area and suggests Southwest Virginia as the location for a future nuclear facility.  

Second, several claim Dominion is underestimating how effective various energy efficiency and demand management strategies would be in addressing that future demand.  If true, wouldn’t that also call into question the need to add all the wind and solar projects Dominion is still including?  The question of the size of future demand is separate from the debate over how to maintain the most reliable generation, and reliability is the main reason to maintain or even add new fossil fuel or nuclear power.  

Third, witnesses stress that Dominion’s change in direction violates the spirit and perhaps the letter of the Code of Virginia.  Several aspects of the Virginia Clean Economy Act are cited, not just the deadline of 2045 for ending all fossil fuel use. Witnesses also argue that Dominion’s continued reliance on fossil fuels will cause it to violate the new U.S. Environmental Protection Agency power plant emission rules, proposed but being hotly contested at the federal level.   

Finally, a University of Michigan professor provides a long treatise on “environmental justice” topics and chides Dominion for not holding stakeholder meetings specifically geared to “environmental justice communities.”  Summarizing his 97-page filing, Justin Schott writes:  

…these same communities which are excluded from the planning process disproportionately experience a range of environmental injustices, including high energy burdens, high rates of disconnections, and exposure to extreme heat waves and urban heat islands. Nearly half a million of Dominion’s residential customers cannot afford their energy bills; upwards of 40% of households in environmental justice communities are chronically cutting back on other basic needs or keeping their homes at unsafe temperatures…these environmental injustices affect Black, Indigenous and Latinx households at double to triple the rates of higher income, predominantly white communities.

Schott’s focus on how the higher costs hurt those with less income is useful.  He seems to have done original research on the impacts by race and income level.  If all that is true, then the key issue is what future generation mix best keeps costs in line.  There are many who join Dominion in doubting the wind-solar-battery model advocated by these activist groups is cost effective or even viable, but their views are not formally in front of the SCC.  


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31 responses to “Dominion Plan to Maintain Gas Attacked at SCC”

  1. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    re: ” whether intermittent wind and solar generation are sufficiently reliable, as the environmental groups claim, or whether Dominion is wise to maintain its more dependable natural gas plants or even add to them. ”

    There is no question that wind/solar are NOT reliable as base load power IMO.

    But it’s not an either/or proposition, either IMO.

    Can wind/solar, WHEN they ARE available, be used instead of gas especially if in doing so, the cost of generating electricity is lower?

    Why we continue to make wind/solar an enemy of electricity generation… makes no more sense that folks on the other side claiming wind/solar can replace gas.

    I accept, with no question, that we will need gas but I also think we can reduce the use of it with wind/solar when they are available.

    why not?

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Can wind and solar be part of the mix? Sure, and they will be. But it won’t be cheaper, because you have to have either massive batteries or a gas plant sitting idle to provide backup. The duplication, the redundancy, is what makes it so expensive. If you are not among the anti-gas fanatics, good to know, so please file a comment with the SCC that you agree with Dominion it cannot all go away. 🙂

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        I dont think you need batteries at all… if you use wind/solar primarily as backup power when it is available to supplement gas when it is economically beneficial to do so.

        Gas is used with Nukes also, for the older nukes that basically run flat out and don’t modulate. Gas was/is/can be used to provide power on top of what the Nukes are providing when demand exceeds what the nukes are able to provide.

        When the newer nukes that can modulate come online, the power mix may change again.

        So what is surprising to me is the back and forth over gas and no real timeframe for new nukes… no commercial nukes timeline from what I see.

        1. Agreed. Unfortunately today’s SMRs aren’t really cycling-capable except in an emergency.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            geeze. I thought that was one of their major selling points….. If they can’t cycle, then only gas is gonna do that….

        2. James Kiser Avatar
          James Kiser

          Nukes are dead thanks to to the eco freaks.

      2. SH, you are correct that the key question before the SCC is,whether intermittent wind and solar generation are sufficiently reliable, as the environmental groups claim, or whether Dominion is wise to maintain its more dependable natural gas plants or even add to them. And I will even grant you that the Green lobby pushes way too hard for eliminating fossil fuels per se, to the public’s short term economic harm.

        But I’m with Larry here, the growth of solar and wind power makes economic sense on today’s grid irrespective of fuel source, and does not require storage unless that, too, is the economic thing to do. Gas cycling units are the economic solution to pair with intermittent solar and wind power.

        Where I part ways with what the Greens seek is the mandating of more renewable-resource generation than the market can absorb as an economic matter. If you really don’t care about the economics then build more nuclear power plants, not expensive and environmentally-destructive battery packs.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          ” Where I part ways with what the Greens seek is the mandating of more renewable-resource generation than the market can absorb as an economic matter. If you really don’t care about the economics then build more nuclear power plants, not expensive and environmentally-destructive battery packs.”

          True that!

          but nukes are by far, going to be more expensive.

          I’d like to see Virginia do a commercial SMR as soon as feasible.

        2. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          Very happy to have you weighing in more, Acbar. How much wind and solar can be part of a reliable system is an engineering issue beyond my ken, but it seems we three are in agreement that some substantial portion of reliable baseload is required, be it coal, nukes or gas. Of the three I’m no fan of coal, given the other two choices.

          1. Absolutely; yes. The only thing I’ll add is, Dominion can buy someone else’s baseload generation rather than build it, and if it builds, stick to what most profitably complements the entire PJM energy and capacity marketplace (two sides of the same coin). Looking at the grid as though it stopped at the State Line is harmful to ratepayers (as well as profits).

  2. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
    f/k/a_tmtfairfax

    State, any state for that matter, energy policy should be based on the costs for using various generating technologies. For example, environmentalists have made a good case that the costs of operating a coal power plant includes the cost of disposing of coal ash. The cost for peak usage, say on very hot or very cold days, should include the costs, including carrying charges, for operating plants held in reserve to meet high demand or the cost for purchasing power from another operator.

    But the very same economic principles require the cost of using wind or solar to include the costs of obtaining alternative power when the wind is not blowing or the sun is not shining. This could be the costs for battery storage or fossil fuel plants that are required to supply power when these two renewable sources cannot operate. Anything else is not good ratemaking or public policy.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      I agree with most everything you said except that wind/solar should not be treated as base load but rather supplementary power , when available and needed, like hydro. The fact that it is not always available makes it not a primary fuel, but that does not make it not valuable. When it IS available, it can save money especially if it can be used instead of paying for peak usage power which is quite a bit more expensive than basic gas power.

      I’ve yet to see a single nuclear power plant on any of the world’s populated islands where most of them continue to burn diesel oil at about twice the killowatt hour cost other fuel sources. When I see SMRs being installed on Hawaii or other islands, I’ll believe it.

      1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
        f/k/a_tmtfairfax

        Larry, the problem with your argument is that the environmentalists and many politicians are claiming that wind and solar can be the primary sources of electricity. If that is true, my economic argument prevails.

        If wind, for example, was to be a secondary source of power, backing up nuclear or fossil fuel plants to handle peak loads, there is no way that regulators could accept the costs for offshore wind.

        If wind or solar were used when available, they should be used only when their costs is less than the cost of conventional power plants or they need to cover the costs for the conventional plants when the latter are not used but could be.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          It’s hard to find a middle ground when all environmentalists are said to be “radical” and only advocating wind/solar as primary.

          Simply not true.

          Just as on the right there are folks way over to the side, true on the left but also true, lots of folks far from the far left.

          Both sides demonize the other.

      2. Quite right, TMT. But cost wise, solar paired with gas-fired cycling units is the least-cost baseload generation on much of the grid today. SMRs in theory can break the cost barrier to nuclear, but an SMR is not capable of cycling with just a few minutes leadtime. We still need cycling units and, at the margins, some quick-response batteries, pumped-storage hydro and DSM can be cost effective too in the right circumstances.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          I did not realize that the SMRs did not cycle. geeze…

          1. It’s not a simple yes/no. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load-following_power_plant > Load following plants > Nuclear plants. France, for example, uses nukes for load following, but only because (a) they were designed for it, and (b) they were built with capital investment low enough (years ago etc.) that taking them offline for load-following is the economic alternative on their grid. Re (a), the design features to allow fuel rod and water circulation manipulation are expensive add-ons, and (b), even planned US SMRs have a huge sunk cost per mWh of output, even if at a more manageable/financeable level overall. Plus, France doesn’t have much native natural gas resources.

  3. SH, a general comment: thank you for highlighting the need and means for more public comments in SCC proceedings like this. Regulators and their staffs do pay attention to them!

    1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
      f/k/a_tmtfairfax

      Both Dominion and the Well-Funded, Tax-Exempt Greens don’t really have ratepayers’ interests in mind despite all their rhetoric. But the VSCC should require consistent accounting and economic analysis to be applied to all proposed generating investments.

      I do have Dominion for my natural gas supplier in Wake Forest, but it’s a lot harder to play games with gas regulation than with electric. We have a co-op Wake Electric Membership Corp. for or electricity supplier. Rates are lower than Dominion in Fairfax County and WEMC actually trims trees.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        One thing I’ve noticed about Virginia and Dominion and that is all of Dominion’s “plans” include buying electricity from other providers out of state which I don’t really understand if they could build more plants in state.

        Probably this question should go to Haner.

        Why is it that the “plan” is to buy electricity from out of state rather that build all we need – in state?

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          Well, some days they buy and some days they sell and balancing the grid through the whole PJM system is the goal, not total balance in each zone. Texas is a market unto itself — that working out?

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Why does it benefit Dominion to buy power rather than generate themselves – at a profit?

            It it not profitable (or AS profitable) to build more plants to run when needed and sell to PJM when excess?

      2. Dominion operates as part of one 13-state grid. It should be building only what complements the resources that are out there, and/or what it has a natural advantage building (maybe including off-shore wind). And, it should be building with shareholder funds for the competitive market, not with ratepayer funds (inflating its rate base). And it should be investing more in transmission (to purchase more independent generation from elsewhere and to encourage more independent generation, including distributed solar, to locate in Virginia). These are not necessarily the path to greater profits but they are what the public interest requires these days.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          Would it be wrong to say that Dominion probably tries to maximize it’s ability to make a profit by choosing what is most profitable and not choosing things that are not or less so?

  4. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
    f/k/a_tmtfairfax

    Add one nuclear plant and subtract one coal plant. Will the radical environmentalists cheer or jeer?

    https://www.power-eng.com/nuclear/duke-energy-proposes-site-for-new-nuclear-in-north-carolina/

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      I think you’ll find that using the word “radical” to describe environmentalists might say more about you than them.

      Many in the environmental community support nukes. Enough so that if we were so inclined – we might find significant middle ground sans to the far-out left and right sides.

      An interesting question for those who consider themselves not environmentalists is – would you support nukes if the nukes cost more than other sources of energy – like gas and wind/solar?

      IOW, why pick nukes if they are more expensive?

      1. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
        f/k/a_tmtfairfax

        Larry, what about the Sierra Club? They oppose nuclear plants. One thing about nuclear energy is that it’s available 24/7. What is the cost of wind and power if we use them as the chief source of power? When something is available only 40% of the time but requires ratepayers to pay 100% of the costs pushes up the cost per unit produced? And then there is the cost for battery storage, including the costs for the rare elements needed.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          What about the Environmental Defense fund or NRDC?

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4255bdd3fe68a74dbe0190a59e41f95a3c4a7c63c0faa377699ed5e3ee5b861e.jpg

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/509dc7a74605a0299e62d19094dd3bbeb669c5f9989e26e88d1d3c29c331e5fb.jpg

          So do you really want to know about the other environmental groups that do support nuclear or just tar them all as opposed even when that’s not true?

          Use wind/solar WHEN they ARE available AND are less expensive than gas.

          It’s a smart and economic way to use a fuel source that is intermittent and not available 100% – no different than hydro!

          But again, why would one support nukes when they are, by far, the most costly source of power?

          Why not oppose nukes on the same basis you’d opposed wind/solar as being “too expensive”?

  5. James Kiser Avatar
    James Kiser

    The feds are in charge and what you think or vote for doesn’t matter. The elites know best.

  6. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
    energyNOW_Fan

    I was out if town so late again. The solution is really all of the above, but for liberals it has to be only what they want, with mandated deadlines hard-coded into law, no matter what the cost, even if their solution is unworkable. On top of that most of the money is going to liberal lobby groups.

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