Discrimination at Cardinal Financial? Or Race Hustling at Obama’s DOJ?

by James A. Bacon

In 2004, Cardinal Financial Corp., a regional bank based in Tysons Corner, purchased George Mason Mortgage, which originated mortgage loans in the Washington metropolitan region, predominantly in Northern Virginia. Seven years later, in a July 1 letter to Cardinal Financial Corp., the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) accused the $2 billion regional financial institution of failing to “serve predominantly black areas on an equal basis with predominantly white areas.”

For specifics, the letter noted that the financial corporation had not opened branches in majority-black areas or engaged in “effective outreach activities.”

To remedy this deficiency, DOJ wanted the bank to add nine counties to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.-approved geographic area where Cardinal does business, wrote Mary Kissel in a Wall Street Journal opinion piece last week. “Never mind that the FDIC in the past gave kudos to Cardinal for its lending practices. Justice is now accusing Cardinal of failing to open branches and achieve racial loan quotas in counties that its federal regulator never before contended should be the focus of its lending.”

(I have placed calls to both Cardinal Bank and the DOJ to see if I can find additional details on this case.)

The Cardinal action is part of a larger pattern in which Obama’s DOJ has moved from enforcing the law to coercing banks into lending more money to minorities. Please note: No one is accusing Cardinal of discriminating against African-Americans who apply for loans. No one is accusing Cardinal of “red lining,”  or refusing to lend to particular minority neighborhoods in communities it otherwise serves. If Kissel’s representation of the letter is accurate, DOJ wants Cardinal, in effect, to change its business model and to expand into municipal jurisdictions where it does not now have a presence.

In a wrap-up of similar cases, American Banker wrote that the Obama administration has targeted banks for alleged redlining and other fair-lending violations to an extent not seen since the Clinton administration. “Critics charge the effort has gone too far, claiming Justice has misused legal interpretations to bring complaints to court, alleged redlining in areas outside a bank’s market area and encouraged loans to unqualified borrowers as part of expensive settlements.”

American Banker quotes Paul Hancock, who once ran the fair lending unit for Justice under former Attorney General Janet Reno and now defends banks against prosecution as a partner at K&L Gates:

These types of enforcement efforts are results‐oriented and tantamount to demands for racial loan quotas. Such extremism has always been harmful to civil rights enforcement because of the backlash that it causes. It is more akin to social engineering than fair civil rights enforcement, and that simply doesn’t work.

This Obama administration initiative bolsters two important narratives I have been building on this blog.

First, it is one more intrusion in the marketplace that chills business confidence and discourages investment and job creation. Robert Rowe, a vice president and senior counsel at the American Bankers Association, told American Banker that an overly aggressive-regime could make banks — nervous about committing fair-lending violations — even more reticent to lend to anyone, although he added that it is “too soon to say” if the current enforcement cycle has reached that point. It’s a lot easier and less risky for banks to invest their capital in Treasury bills.

Second, this is a replay of the Community Reinvestment Act that pushed banks into the sub-prime mortgage market during the run-up to the real estate crash and financial collapse. Government policy encouraged banks to abandon lending standards then, and the Justice Department is, in effect, pushing banks to do so again. The bottom line: Don’t lend on the basis of an individual’s credit-worthiness — shovel loans into minority communities already plagued by high unemployment, foreclosures and over-indebtedness.

So what if African-Americans are suffering foreclosures at a rate far higher than other racial groups? Blame it on “predatory lending” practices instead of the lowering of lending standards and the giving of mortgages to individuals who were in no way equipped financially to handle them. So what if African-Americans have seen their net worth nearly wiped out in the housing bust (see the Economic Policy Institute report on how bad the sitution is). Blame discrimination and racism instead of self-defeating public policy.

In the war against ever more rarefied forms of “discrimination,” the race hustlers have done, and continue to do, more to sabotage the economic well being of African-Americans than all the grand wizards, dragons and poobahs of the Ku Klux Klan could have devised in their most fevered imaginations. While Martin Luther King broke the shackles of Jim Crow and racial segregation, Barack Obama is binding African-Americans with the manacles of MassOverconsumption and excess indebtedness.


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30 responses to “Discrimination at Cardinal Financial? Or Race Hustling at Obama’s DOJ?”

  1. the problem here is that it’s not nothing but the whole truth but rather a weaving of some partly true things with things that are not true – in my words to produce a narrative that seems to purport something different from what actually is the complete truth.

    this is just one of many reports that dispute the narrative:

    Cutline: Community Reinvestment Act had nothing to do with subprime crisis

    Fresh off the false and politicized attack on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, today we’re hearing the know-nothings blame the subprime crisis on the Community Reinvestment Act — a 30-year-old law that was actually weakened by the Bush administration just as the worst lending wave began. This is even more ridiculous than blaming Freddie and Fannie.

    The Community Reinvestment Act, passed in 1977, requires banks to lend in the low-income neighborhoods — where they take deposits—.

    let’s repeat that: ” where they take deposits ”

    ” Just the idea that a lending crisis created from 2004 to 2007 was caused by a 1977 law is silly. But it’s even more ridiculous when you consider that most subprime loans were made by firms that aren’t subject to the CRA. University of Michigan law professor Michael Barr testified back in February before the House Committee on Financial Services that 50% of subprime loans were made by mortgage service companies not subject comprehensive federal supervision and another 30% were made by affiliates of banks or thrifts which are not subject to routine supervision or examinations.”

    http://www.businessweek.com/investing/insights/blog/archives/2008/09/community_reinv.html

    next, please notice the DATE of this article 2008. It was CLEARLY pre-Obama.

    here’s another:

    Bush appointee Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said “Experience runs counter to the charge that CRA was at the root of, or otherwise contributed in any substantive way to, the current mortgage difficulties.” In a November 25, 2008, letter, Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke stated: “Our own experience with CRA over more than 30 years and recent analysis of available data, including data on subprime loan performance, runs counter to the charge that CRA was at the root of, or otherwise contributed in any substantive way to, the current mortgage difficulties.”

    Most subprime mortgages not issued by institutions under CRA. In a paper published on the website of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, Michigan law professor Michael Barr stated that as of 2005: “Only 25 percent of subprime loans were made by banks and thrifts, and the Federal Reserve reports that only six percent of subprime loans were CRA-eligible.” Similarly, a 2008 study by a law firm specializing in CRA compliance estimated that in the 15 most populous metropolitan areas, 84.3 percent of subprime loans in 2006 were made by financial institutions not governed by the CRA.

    http://makemoneywithaffiliates.us/?p=2764

    here we have one heck of a disaster of an economy – and we’re continuing to rehash history – and revisionist history at that.

  2. “… although he added that it is “too soon to say” if the current enforcement cycle has reached that point. It’s a lot easier and less risky for banks to invest their capital in Treasury bills.”

    HOLY BAT CRAP – so THIS is how the govt is keeping the interest rate on it’s debt at an all time low…. wow!

    Point #1 is just more anti-Obama sentiment about rules and regs that he has had little to do with… I need to see a smoking gun here to be convinced that this is an Obama deal

    Point #2 has been thoroughly and completely discredited by a whole passel of people from Greenspan to Bernanke to Shelia Bear … the vast, vast majority of sub-prime loans had nothing to do with FDIC nor CRA….

    the statistic about African American foreclosures is deceptive unless it can be actually shown that the foreclosures are CRA-related and I’m pretty sure that’s not the case.

  3. The Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) was not the prime cause of the sub-prime debacle, nor did I imply that it was, but it did feed the general collapse in lending standards and the allocation of capital to politically favored groups. In the grand scheme of things, sure, Wall Street, Freddie and Fannie and other actors played a bigger role.

    What has Larry G. and other Dems learned from the disaster? Absolutely nothing. If the CRA was not responsible for *all* of the sub-prime fiasco, it was responsible for *none* of the fiasco. Therefore, everything is OK, nothing has to change, and it’s perfectly OK for government to replace the allocation of consumer capital to politically favored groups .

    C’mon, Larry, you can do better than that.

  4. CRA was responsible for ALMOST NONE of the fiasco nor was the implications that the govt forced loosened loan standards to favor minorities.

    that’s the import of the narrative in my view.

    what’s important is to understand what really happened and to not use it as a proxy for a different agenda….

    it’s pretty clear that most of the subprime loans and the ensuing collapse were caused by a LACK of regulations… because the abuses were done by financial organizations not subject to FDIC nor CRA…

    I think that’s MORE important that trying to say that African Americans higher mortgage foreclosure rates are caused by misguided govt anti-discrimination efforts.

    the truth here is that the vast, vast majority of mortgage issues were due to non-FDIC, non-CRA reasons…. “hot” housing markets…. upscale, over-priced properties…condos… etc…

    The irony here is that Greenspan knew that the “banks” that were outside of the purview of FDIC/CRA were going off the ranch but he was opposed to regulation… and took a hands off approach and Bush agreed.

    Somehow all of this is ancient (and irrelevant) history and now Obama is the cause of the problem?

    WTF?

    geeze..

  5. to be concise – I’m more than skeptical that the higher mortgage foreclosure rate for African Americans has ANYTHING what-so-ever to do with loosened loan standards much less Obama’s specific policies and totally off the wall with regard to “uncertainties”.

    In the Fredericksburg Area – it don’t matter if you or white, black or polka-dot… getting a loan for a business – not residential is near impossible because what the banks fear is that there is a serious lack of ….aggregate demand and that dooms most start-ups….

    How about a BR tome on aggregate demand and how that plays into an uncertain business environment … and how we could address that….

    as opposed to … yet another blame it on Obama article?

    :’]

  6. Larry, I wrote another blame-it-on-Obama article because the guy never ceases to amaze and confound with his wealth-destroying initiatives. There’s just no end to them!

  7. While it strikes me that a major, major cause of the foreclosure crisis in the sub-prime market was private business chasing after closing costs, etc., the CRA most certainly played a rule. Unless I was lied to, a number of lawyers from large and mid-sized banks told me that their companies received considerable pressure to show CRA compliance by making significant numbers of sub-prime mortgages. The feds should not be let off the hook.

  8. CRA played a very minor role…

    “Legal and financial experts have noted that CRA regulated loans tend to be safe and profitable, and that subprime excesses came mainly from institutions not regulated by the CRA. In the February 2008 House hearing, law professor Michael S. Barr, a Treasury Department official under President Clinton,[63][121] stated that a Federal Reserve survey showed that affected institutions considered CRA loans profitable and not overly risky. He noted that approximately 50% of the subprime loans were made by independent mortgage companies that were not regulated by the CRA, and another 25% to 30% came from only partially CRA regulated bank subsidiaries and affiliates. Barr noted that institutions fully regulated by CRA made “perhaps one in four” sub-prime loans, and that “the worst and most widespread abuses occurred in the institutions with the least federal oversight”.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act

    Jim – so far.. I’ve not see specifics with regard to “wealth destroying” activities.

    and tying CRA to Obama is downright LAME!

    what’s screwing up the economy is that aggregate demand has cratered…

    and yet ..here we are talking about the big bad govt forcing the sweet innocent banks to loan money to minorities that shouldn’t get it…

    ouch!

  9. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Jim Bacon’s unfortunate and chronic problems when he writes blog postings of this sort are that he is far too forgiving of private enterprise, chooses to limit his vision and makes sweeping generalizations about minorities that come as absolute and basically racist.

    A few points. The federal government did not push commercial banks and other financial houses into subprime lending. There was a theory, still valid, that home ownership in lower income neighborhoods, as opposed to renting, makes for stronger, safer and less crime-ridden communities. This is what Freddie and Frannie were after. In the process, the bug-a-boo about “subprime” being a dirty way of making money was lifted. So what happened? Big banks like Bank of America, Wachovia and Countrywide jumped in with both feet into subprime. Why? Simple: it was immensely profitable for them. Their margins went way, way up. They could bundle off their debt into CDO-style derivative. If housing prices kept rising, no one got hurt. This is what really happened. It wasn’t some Washington bureaucrat engineering the economy and society.
    Second, Bacon’s sweeping statements about African-Americans are in poor taste. True, minorities in poorer neighborhoods suffered when the housing bubble burst. Yet studies show that no matter how much they earn or how much they pay their bills responsibly, their homes would never have risen in value as much as those in white neighborhoods. If you take Bacon’s over-the-top statements to their logical conclusion, you might as well say that banks should avoid lending to people of color all together.
    That may be the view from the basement of a nice house in a mostly white neighborhood in the West end of Richmond and Henrico County — the view of someone who spends his days reading Cato reports. But the truth lies elsewhere.
    Meanwhile, Jim, you really need to tone it down.

    Thanks!

    Peter Galuszka

  10. Yesterday, I had to drive from Miami to Naples, FL. As I was cruising across Rt 75 (aka Alligator Alley) I tried to tune in a radio station. Bluegrass preferred, country acceptable. Unfortunately, my choices were a religious talk show, rap, Spanish language programming and NPR. I picked NPR and spent the next two hours listening to that bastrion of progressive thinking.

    Some woman named Diane Reem had a obe hour show. She certainly has an unusual voice for a radio host. Her topic was the recent announcement by the administrator of Fannie and Freddie that it would sue US banks for $200B. Ms. Reem had a whole slew of guests on her program talking about the housing meltdown. The disagreed on many things but agreed on one …

    The CRA was a material factor in the recent housing meltdown.

    LarryG – you ought to see if replays are available. It was a good show. NPR is probably not liberal enough for your tastes. I know you prefer The Ed Show. However, yesterday’s program was quite informative.

    AS for the number of banks being regulated by the CRA – pure hogwash. Any bank which wanted to avoid being regulated by the CRA had to adopt CRA type policies. The bank regulators routinely made this threat. Therefore, any argument which counts the number of banks under CRA regulation is deceptive.

  11. Peter said, “If you take Bacon’s over-the-top statements to their logical conclusion…”

    If you take Peter’s over-the-top statements to their logical conclusion, we should nationalize private industry and create a socialist state.

    But Peter does *not* take his statements to their “logical” conclusion, and neither do I.

  12. Peter:
    There are many areas where poor people live that are overwhelmingly white. In fact, the poorest twon in Virginia (based on per caputa income) is 98% white.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_locations_by_per_capita_income

    My understanding of the housing crisis in Virginia is that lower income areas with a significant African-American or Hispanic population suffered the most. Then, ex-urban areas overall, then suburban areas overall, etc. Why didn’t the poor, largely white rural areas suffer so much? My guess is that the CRA never forced banks to lend there. Maybe you have another theory.

    Another issue with liberal doctrine is the question of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Are they evil, predatory banks or kindly, benevolent quasi-government institutions. Progressive genius Barney Frank seemed to think the latter. What do you think?

    As you ponder this question, let me provide two data points. A 1996 memo from the CEO of Freddie Mac has recently come to light. In that memo, the CEO clearly weighed the potential risks and benefits of sub-prime mortgages. He chose to pursue the sub-prime route. A very concious decision. Franklin Raines was another CEO of Freddie Mac. Did Mr. Raines put his lucrative career at Lazard on hold while he served the interest at a quasi-government institution? Hardly. He pocketed a handsome $90M during his tenure at Fannie. $90M.

    I hope the lawsuit against the big banks does not quickly settle. It will be very illuminating to see the real role played by Barnie Frank’s favorite quasi-government institutions.

  13. More data on Fannie Mae:

    http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2011/07/10/did-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac-purchase-risky-mortgages-2006-update/

    From LarryG’s screed …

    “Fresh off the false and politicized attack on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac …”.

    Really, LarryG? Really?

    Fannie Mae was enabling the housing bubble and sub-prime crisis by buying crappy loans as fast as they could write the checks.

  14. More anti-Fannie material from yet another right wing publication (The Washington Post) …

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/18/AR2008081802111.html

    “Internal documents show that even late in the housing bubble, Fannie Mae was drawn to risky loans by a variety of temptations, including the desire to increase its market share and fulfill government quotas for the support of low-income borrowers.”.

    Oh dear, LarryG … oh dear!

  15. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Groveton,
    Thanks for your lesson regarding mostly white poor areas. I’ve only been spending a good part of this year in the Appalachian coal country researching a book. Know what? I actually attended free medical clinic at a Pikesville Ky. high school where 1,000 poor mountain and mostly white folk got medical and dental checkups. It was run by a foundation and the U.S. Public Health Service. They even hauled in 84 temporary dental chairs for the basketball court. Know what? The road show moved later to the Clintwood area of Virginia’s poor mountains as it does every year.
    So, thanks again for the lesson. I am sure I needed it.
    Peter Galuszka

  16. “The federal government did not push commercial banks and other financial houses into sub-prime lending. ” I have worked with attorneys for banks, both outside counsel & in-house, who have stated just the opposite. There has been strong federal pressure to make loans in minority communities. I don’t believe this is the only cause of the sub-prime crisis and the desire to make short-term profits on closing loans probably was a huge factor, but the feds were involved – or many people have lied to me.

  17. Peter:

    It’s always good to hear from a Georgetown Prep guy who has visited poor white people. Having actually been a poor white kid at one point in my youth I can say for certain that visits from liberal do gooders were always a highlight of my day.

    I am relatively confident in your ability to visit free dental clinics as you research your book. Whether you can sort out the statistics of poverty is another question. For example, was there really a statistically meaningful difference in foreclosure rates between less affluent white Virginians in rural areas and less affluent black Virginians in suburban and urban areas? If so, why?

    Also know that I am always available to review manuscripts from the perspective of a formerly less affluent white boy.

  18. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Groveton,
    I make no apologies for Georgetown Prep.
    PG

  19. PG:

    As a father of kids at Gonzaga, I am glad to hear that you make no apologies for GP. Given what I now know those schools to cost I’d be very sad to hear that there were regrets among the alumni.

    G.

  20. “LarryG – you ought to see if replays are available. It was a good show. NPR is probably not liberal enough for your tastes. I know you prefer The Ed Show. However, yesterday’s program was quite informative.”

    we’re talking about ignorance of the facts influence by propaganda and misinformation.

    people “believe” but the facts are otherwise.

    it’s just more excuses and blame for what we did to ourselves…

    sure there were SOME minorities involved in subprime. In fact, investigations have revealed that blacks were systemically given subprime loans when their credit scores merited prime loans

    all this is – is more culture war…. everyone wants to find a whipping boy.

  21. ” More data on Fannie Mae:….”

    huh? what happened to CRA forcing banks to make loans to bad credit blacks?

    how did we transition to Fannie/Freddie?

    and so what? it’s history.. and now we have aftermath..

    why do you guys keep going back to rehash something in the past and then cry crocodile tears when it is shown who actually was asleep at the wheel and who actually was opposed to regulating mortgages that were outside of FDIC and CRA oversight?

    all this is – is more looking back… and trying to reconstruct history …and for what purpose?

  22. about 25% of the subprimes were involved with CRA oversight….

    so… we continue to imply that THE meltdown was due to the govt attempts to make blacks homeowners.

    it not only does not compute… it’s clearly an attempt to change what really happened…

    and why?

    even if it WERE TRUE (and it’s clearly not) … why the lookback?

  23. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Groveton,
    Gonzaga! Now that’s a red flag!

    PG

    PS; Back in the 1960s, the cost, while high, was nowhere what it is today.

  24. take a few minutes to read this… guys

    Community Reinvestment Act had nothing to do with subprime crisis
    Posted by: Aaron Pressman on September 29, 2008

    Fresh off the false and politicized attack on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, today we’re hearing the know-nothings blame the subprime crisis on the Community Reinvestment Act — a 30-year-old law that was actually weakened by the Bush administration just as the worst lending wave began. This is even more ridiculous than blaming Freddie and Fannie.

    The Community Reinvestment Act, passed in 1977, requires banks to lend in the low-income neighborhoods where they take deposits. Just the idea that a lending crisis created from 2004 to 2007 was caused by a 1977 law is silly. But it’s even more ridiculous when you consider that most subprime loans were made by firms that aren’t subject to the CRA. University of Michigan law professor Michael Barr testified back in February before the House Committee on Financial Services that 50% of subprime loans were made by mortgage service companies not subject comprehensive federal supervision and another 30% were made by affiliates of banks or thrifts which are not subject to routine supervision or examinations. As former Fed Governor Ned Gramlich said in an August, 2007, speech shortly before he passed away: “In the subprime market where we badly need supervision, a majority of loans are made with very little supervision. It is like a city with a murder law, but no cops on the beat.”

    Not surprisingly given the higher degree of supervision, loans made under the CRA program were made in a more responsible way than other subprime loans. CRA loans carried lower rates than other subprime loans and were less likely to end up securitized into the mortgage-backed securities that have caused so many losses, according to a recent study by the law firm Traiger & Hinckley (PDF file here).

    Finally, keep in mind that the Bush administration has been weakening CRA enforcement and the law’s reach since the day it took office. The CRA was at its strongest in the 1990s, under the Clinton administration, a period when subprime loans performed quite well. It was only after the Bush administration cut back on CRA enforcement that problems arose, a timing issue which should stop those blaming the law dead in their tracks. The Federal Reserve, too, did nothing but encourage the wild west of lending in recent years. It wasn’t until the middle of 2007 that the Fed decided it was time to crack down on abusive pratices in the subprime lending market. Oops.

    Better targets for blame in government circles might be the 2000 law which ensured that credit default swaps would remain unregulated, the SEC’s puzzling 2004 decision to allow the largest brokerage firms to borrow upwards of 30 times their capital and that same agency’s failure to oversee those brokerage firms in subsequent years as many gorged on subprime debt. (Barry Ritholtz had an excellent and more comprehensive survey of how Washington contributed to the crisis in this week’s Barron’s.)

    http://www.businessweek.com/investing/insights/blog/archives/2008/09/community_reinv.html

    (from the PDF):

    The Community Reinvestment Act:
    A Welcome Anomaly in the Foreclosure Crisis
    Indications that the CRA Deterred Irresponsible Lending
    in the 15 Most Populous U.S. Metropolitan Areas

    summary excerpts:

    ” Our study concludes that CRA Banks were substantially less likely than other lenders
    to make the kinds of risky home purchase loans that helped fuel the foreclosure crisis.

    Specifically, our analysis shows that:

    (1) CRA Banks were significantly less likely than other lenders to make a high cost loan;
    (2) The average APR on high cost loans originated by CRA Banks was appreciably lower
    than the average APR on high cost loans originated by other lenders;
    (3) CRA Banks were more than twice as likely as other lenders to retain originated loans in
    their portfolio; and
    (4) Foreclosure rates were lower in MSAs with greater concentrations of bank branches.

    and Barrons:

    http://online.barrons.com/article/SB122246742997580395.html

  25. LarryG:

    Why, in God’s name, would you quote a three year old screed? The recession was jut getting underway. The causes of the housing meltdown were porrly understood and even the depth and duration of the meltdown were unknown.

    The report you cite is like replaying the sports announcers talking at the end of the first quarter when looking back on an NFL season.

    I can only assume that you quote a three year old article because no other analysis would dare exonerate Fannie and Freddie. And no other analysis would cite the CRA as a good thing.

    The analysis you cite is disproven bunk.

  26. Jim Bacons writes, “The Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) was not the prime cause of the sub-prime debacle, nor did I imply that it was, but it did feed the general collapse in lending standards and the allocation of capital to politically favored groups.”.

    Later in the comments list, LarryG writes, “so… we continue to imply that THE meltdown was due to the govt attempts to make blacks homeowners.”.

    LarryG – While I have often excoriated Jim Bacon for some of his opinions I have never questioned his clear and articulate writing style. You should do the same. Nobody claims that the CRA was THE issue that led to the housing meltdown. However, almost no one believes that it had no impact.

    If you want the #1 villian – look at the Federal Reserve Bank’s long term manipulation of interest rates. When you keep the price of anything artifically low you invite the waste of that thing. The Fed has and is keeping the cost of capital artifically low.

  27. I can provide later links that came to the same results including the Congressional inquiry.

    I’m not looking for a but why is Jim?

    It’s history and Obama had precious little to do with it so why write an article that draws a link between it and Obama?

    the narrative starts off asserting that CRA was a major cause of the recession.

    you need to check the other links guy because very clearly only about 25% of the subprimes with under CRA oversight yet the narrative proceeds as if CRA caused many more bad mortgages to be written for blacks that had bad credit and the facts clearly say otherwise.

    yet we continue blithely along… saying that Obama’s DOJ is working to help out “favored ” folks – blacks… in the same way that CRA did – which I consider just this side of a scurrilous untruth but it does not stop there.. it goes on to say that that is the cause of uncertainty of the banks…

    gawd o’mighty… can we throw in the kitchen sink while we’re at it?

    ;-0

  28. ” but it did feed the general collapse in lending standards and the allocation of capital to politically favored groups.”.

    it “FED” the collapse? I don’t think so.. not when it’s pretty much agreed to by most credible sources that only about 25% of the subprimes were even under CRA oversight…..

    and what the heck does “politically favored groups” REALLY MEAN ?

    I said that I would believe credible data to support Jim’s assertions.

    I provided credible data to refute the assertions.

    I still await credible data to support them.

    we’re just throwing stuff on the wall to see what sticks…here.

    this is getting to be a common practice .. mixing data that has some truth with data that has no truth – no factual basis – just an assertion – and promoting it as truth.

    let’s try this –

    of all the black mortgages that defaulted (which is higher than whites) – how many are CRA?

    I can tell you how many down our way are CRA – none….and we have a LOT.

    so how about it… can we show how many of the black mortgages – the “favored” were CRA?

  29. Larry, I’m not inclined to re-fight the CRA battle in this blog thread. (Groveton would do a better job than I, in any case.) All I can do is refer you to Gretchen Morgenstern’s book, “Reckless Endangerment,” which I think is the final word on the subject regarding the role of CRA and Fannie/Freddie in the sub-prime debacle. I haven’t read it, only reviews, so I can’t comment authoritatively. Let’s just say that, despite the sources you quoted, it’s an open issue.

    My main point is that you’re missing the point of the blog post. Take out the phrase, “This is a replay of the Community Reinvestment Act,” and insert the phrase, “This is a replay of the loosening of credit standards.” You’ll see that the CRA mention was a throw-away line, utterly peripheral to the main thrust of the post. While you may have rebutted (to your satisfaction) three or four words of the post, you have not touched the main line of argument.

  30. Jim – here is my complaint:

    The Cardinal action is part of a larger pattern in which Obama’s DOJ has moved from enforcing the law to coercing banks into lending more money to minorities.
    rowers as part of expensive settlements.”

    First, it is one more intrusion in the marketplace that chills business confidence and discourages investment and job creation.

    Second, this is a replay of the Community Reinvestment Act that pushed banks into the sub-prime mortgage market during the run-up to the real estate crash and financial collapse.

    wrong wrong wrong!

    you present no data here… what law is DOJ “enforcing” ?

    and none other than Shelia Blair of the FDIC has thoroughly debunked #2.

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