by Jon Baliles

The entire saga of the development of the Diamond District project in Richmond has come full circle in the last 18 months, as Mayor Levar Stoney, desperate for an economic development win after the failure of his Navy Hill boondoggle and two failed casino referendums, has rounded the bases trying to get a baseball stadium built before the franchise was going to be moved by the powers at Major League Baseball (MLB). Finally scoring a run, however, will come with a cost: $170 million to be exact, because that is how much debt the city will issue  to pay for building the stadium and surrounding infrastructure for the rest of the Diamond District development.

The big news broke last week about the new plan to build the baseball stadium but is also being accompanied by a new financing and development structure and procedures. The announcement unfortunately pre-empted the planned Part 3 of our baseball stadium series, which explained that, at this late date, the only option left to get the stadium built in time and not have MLB yank the franchise was for the city to issue general obligation (G.O.) bonds. That was the only evidence MLB was going to accept to prove the money to build the stadium was actually there and construction could actually begin, because all the talk from the city had been just one missed promise after another, and delay after delay.

The bomb was set to explode and the Mayor and Chief Administrative Officer (CAO) played the last card they had left. They will put the onus of the debt and risk all on the city’s shoulders, issue the debt quickly and get the shovels turning to meet the deadline. But that is not at all how this process began, and it has changed drastically in the many months the city spent dithering.

Back in September 2022, Jonathan Spiers (pronounced Spy-ers) wrote in Richmond BizSense that the Mayor planned to have Council vote on the deal later in 2022 with the goal of work starting on the new stadium early [in 2023] and wanted to open the stadium in the spring of 2025. The plan called for the entire 67-acre Diamond District property to be a tax increment financing district (TIF) that would use all the taxes generated inside it to help pay for the development.

According to the city’s term sheet with RVADP at that time, “The redevelopment of the Diamond District site is intended to be financially self-sustaining, meaning that the new development in the Diamond District will generate enough tax revenue to pay debt service for Community Development Authority (“CDA”) bond financing and additional municipal services that may be required to support the new development.”

The term sheet also indicated that the bond financing “shall be nonrecourse to the City; therefore, not requiring a moral or financial obligation from the City” and  would include a special assessment requirement that “obligates the Developer and other future landowners within the District to pay all debt service payment shortfalls in the event the revenues generated in the CDA District are not sufficient to pay debt service payments.

Boxer Mike Tyson was credited with saying that everyone has a great plan until they get punched in the face, and that is certainly applicable here. Eight months after the city announced the roadmap to the Diamond District, they got hit in the face by interest rates. It took until late April 2023, when the city announced that the deal with the developer had  been finalized, but some major changes were also announced.

The stadium would not open until 2026, a year later than planned, and a new TIF district would expand well beyond the 67 acres included in the original Diamond District to surrounding development in order for the city to fund infrastructure improvements in the District. The city noted that rising interest rates made the project’s original math unworkable and funding was now to come from the expanded TIF district revenues as well as other sources, including public utilities enterprise funds and General Obligation Bonds. The city also announced the entry of the Economic Development Authority (EDA), which would sell land to the developer but also would control the land under the stadium and be responsible for the leases with the Flying Squirrels and VCU baseball.

But except for rezoning the Diamond District property, the city didn’t do any of the other required tasks over the course of the next year, such as create the CDA or finalize stadium lease agreements. Fast forward to last week and suddenly, the Mayor and CAO announce an entirely new plan to issue $170 million in general obligation bonds that will put all of the risk of the project on the city’s shoulders as well as overhaul the development strategy and structure of the deal — oh, and they want City Council to approve it in two weeks.

As Spiers reports in BizSense, the city now says interest rates are so high that the best way to proceed and “save” money over the 30 years is for the city to issue $130 million in debt to build the stadium and $40 million of debt to pay for the needed infrastructure and bear the risk of the project producing enough tax revenue to pay the debt service. Municipal G.O. bonds offer the lowest interest rate we can get and the city now claims the switch will save $215 million in debt over the 30-year bond term because of the city’s strong credit rating.

In fact, the Mayor and CAO are now intimating that this plan was always the best way to do it because of how much it saves us with the low rate compared to their original plan — but it ignores the other side of the coin, which places all the risk on the city; if the development does not produce enough revenue to pay the debt, then the city has to come up with the money through taxes or deferring other projects. Of course, Stoney & Company forgot to mention that had their “new”  discovery just been implemented two years ago when municipal interest rates were about half as much than the 4.5%-5% range they are in today, the “savings” would be astronomical — but the risk would still be on the city’s shoulders.

Regardless, CAO Lincoln Sanders told BizSense last week after putting forth the proposal that will put $170 million of city funds at risk, “We are recommending this because we think it is fiscally sound and, in the end, lower risk for the city.”

The city received an “analysis” from Davenport & Co. which serves as the city’s financial advisor. Totaling just six pages in length, it is less of an “analysis” and more of a cheerleading document that can be found on page 200 of the ordinance introduced last Monday and will be approved in another week’s time since Council has already unofficially signed off on the deal.

In the document, Davenport notes that the interest rates for bonds using the original CDA financing plan are about 8%, twice what the city can get by issuing G.O. bonds. Using the CDA financing plan would require about $314 million of debt service to pay off the bonds but using the “new” plan would only incur about $110 million of debt service and thus, “save” the city $215 million in debt service (of course, those “savings” do not include the cost of delays in funding to other projects using the city’s limited debt capacity). It also claims that the “new” plan “has no impact on the City’s Debt Capacity Policies.” Note, the wording is that issuing the G.O. debt won’t affect the city’s “Debt Capacity Policies,” which is different than the debt having a legal effect on the city’s debt capacity by outside credit rating agencies (more on this in a few paragraphs).

CDA bonds rates are always higher because of the higher risk, and they also require something of value as collateral (property, for instance); G.O. bonds require zero collateral because the risk is offset by the city’s obligation to pay the debt (or tax its way out of it) or it will face a serious credit rating downgrade to borrow for future projects.

CAO Saunders and Deputy CAO for Economic and Community Development Sharon Ebert joined the Davenport chorus and both told City Council last week that even issuing $170 in general obligation debt would NOT count against the city’s debt capacity. However, just repeating that over and over does not make it so.

According to BizSense, Ebert emphasized that assuming the bond debt would not affect the city’s ability to issue bonds for other capital improvement projects such as schools.

This is much more cost-effective,” said Ebert, who also addressed the risk to the city should the project fail to produce the projected revenues.

There is risk; I don’t want to say that there isn’t any risk,” she said. “Taking this approach does require the city to put its full faith and credit behind the bond if the tax revenues don’t materialize as expected.

BizSense reported that CAO Saunders said

the approach toward the new stadium would not impact the city’s debt capacity and would free up nearly $24 million of debt capacity that had been programmed for the [expanded TIF district] infrastructure improvements. He described the approach as similar to how the city financed the Stone Brewing production facility, in which the debt has been offset by the company’s lease payments.

The only problem with that “analysis” is that it is not. The financing of Stone was done using general obligation bonds, but the lease Stone had with the EDA was enough to cover the debt service; however, it was still a risk if the company suddenly disappeared and no one stepped in to buy or lease a modern, fully functioning brewery (in the case of the stadium, there is no lease to cover the entire bond debt repayment).

An article by Michael Martz in the Times-Dispatch in October 2014 reported that the Stone bonds would carry the city’s moral obligation and Davenport recommended use of general obligation bonds as “the most efficient means of providing the desired lease terms” in the letter-of-intent between the city and Stone.

Martz wrote:

The financial adviser also raised the possibility that the debt for the project could be excluded from Richmond’s total debt capacity, based on Stone’s commitment to repay the debt through lease payments under financial policy guidelines that already are being revised.

Although this (general obligation) debt should not count against the city’s capacity from a policy perspective since it is being repaid from lease revenues, the credit rating agencies will still count it in their analysis because it is not funding an essential public project, Davenport states.

A year and a half later, however, Davenport admitted that the Stone debt did, in fact, count against the city’s debt capacity. In the document entitled “Playing the Economic Development Game under the New Realities,” Davenport presented the topic at the Virginia Government Finance Officers’ Association Spring Meeting in May 2016. The document reads [emphasis added]:

Davenport believes that the G.O. Bonds issued for the (Stone Brewing) Project should not have counted against the City’s capacity from a debt policy/capacity perspective since it was being repaid from a definable and known stream of lease revenues from day one.

However, the G.O. Bonds did count against the City’s legal debt limit and the Credit Rating Agencies did count it in their overall analysis because it is not funding an essential public project.

One can argue all day long if a baseball stadium is an “essential” public project or not. But, if issuing general obligation debt to build a school counts against the city’s debt limit (which it does and is undoubtedly an essential public project), then you can’t argue that issuing general obligation debt to build a baseball stadium doesn’t count against the city’s debt limit.

Back in January, Em Holter at the Times-Dispatch reported that the city is facing a crunch in its debt capacity to deliver things like schools and a new John Marshall Courthouse, which is no longer in compliance with state code. In the article, Chief Investment Debt Officer Michael Nguyen said a new courthouse would cost $300 million, (a price tag, strangely, that is three times as much as Loudoun County’s new courthouse) and might put the city in a bind because our policy is to only borrow 10% of what we collect in a fiscal year and making sure that 60% of any debt incurred is paid off within ten years.

“When the administration and the council decide to borrow funds, that impact is felt for the city and commits future administrations and future councils to spending priorities,” Nguyen said. “So one way to think about this is that we can take on a lot of debt, but the ultimate issue lies with can we afford to pay that now and in the future years to come. That affordability part is a decision that could squeeze out or crowd other spending priorities.”

The article noted that a $300 million project would have a drastic impact and require about a $19.5 million annual payment, so the stadium taking $170 million of that would also have a sizable impact — especially if we don’t have a schedule of when it will be paid back — which we don’t.

One of the missing pieces so far in the “new” stadium deal is that there is no agreed-upon lease with the Squirrels yet, though one is expected to be finalized in the $2.5-$3 million range annually. However, no one knows yet who is responsible for the annual cost of upkeep and maintenance of the stadium and who will pay when MLB comes back in ten years and requires more upgrades to meet their minimum standards.

But even with the Squirrels paying the most expensive lease in minor league baseball history (by far), that amount would come nowhere near meeting the amount to cover the total debt service for the bonds (like the Stone deal), which according to BizSense, is expected to be about $10 million annually. It is estimated that the infrastructure bond debt would total about $3 million per year and the roughly $7 million of stadium bond debt will have to be paid by incremental tax revenues from the surrounding development and other taxes generated within the Diamond District boundaries. The faster that gets developed and generates revenue, the more those revenues can pay the debt instead of the city’s general fund.

The problem with the estimated $10 million debt service number is that no one knows exactly what the debt service will be on an annual basis because so far there has been no debt schedule for the stadium or Diamond District infrastructure shared with Council or the public. It could be $8 million or it might be $12 million. No one knows for sure and there are no assurances in the agreements going before Council next week that protect the city in any fashion from becoming a cash register with endless payouts.

The city is writing a blank check and the details will be filled in later on the other side and can be written with little protection for the city since they are committing to cover all the debt no matter what happens. In most responsible localities, at the very least, a debt schedule would be a precondition to the approval of issuing such a large amount of debt, as would requirements of audited financial reporting, which revenues would be directed to the debt, etc.

The non-stadium development in the Diamond District is vital in order to pay the debt for the stadium. The city and developers and City Council and taxpayers should know how much revenue is needed and how fast and how much development will generate revenue to pay the debt — but so far, that’s not the case here (this will be addressed more in the next part of our series). The good news is that if any area can grow rapidly to begin generating revenue, it is the area around the stadium, which has seen meteoric and unbated growth for a decade with few signs of stopping anytime soon.

Whenever a development is backed unequivocally by the full faith and credit of the city, then everyone involved knows that no matter what happens with the development — stadium cost overruns, missed development targets, soil remediation, earthquakes, locusts, or the zombie apocalypse — the city will ultimately be on the hook for the debt and have to pick up the tab if any or all or it goes south.

However, without the Mayor or City Council pressing for more defined development timelines or assurances that the city can foreclose or retain clear claw-backs on the development if something goes amiss, then the city is about to rush headlong into a deal with potentially seismic long-term consequences.

Republished with permission from RVA 5×5.


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46 responses to “Diamonds Aren’t Forever”

  1. Let the politicians who support this project put up their retirement portfolios so they personally have ‘skin in the game ‘….. and see if their stance remains

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Funny you should mention that, since it is now becoming clear everybody depending on VRS is going to be investing in offshore wind now….

      1. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        Maybe within the VRS portfolio it will allow you to designate sane investments only? Maybe Jason Miyares could step up and declare ESG investing violates fiduciary duties, which it does!

  2. William O'Keefe Avatar
    William O’Keefe

    The mayor and city council have once again proven that they have no shame and are truly incompetent when it comes to managing Richmond effectively. Davenport is sullying its reputation by issuing a cheerleading paper and calling it an analysis.
    The Center for Economic Accountability has this to say about public financing of sports stadiums–“the evidence against stadiums’ economic benefits is so simple and clear that it’s hard to find anything that economists agree about more: In 2017, the University of Chicago’s Booth School asked some of the world’s most eminent economists whether subsidized sports stadiums are likely to cost taxpayers more than they return in benefits. The panel – which included an incredible seven Nobel Prize winners in economics – was virtually unanimous in its skepticism with 83% agreeing that stadium subsidies aren’t worth the cost, 11% not sure and just 4% in favor of them.”
    This boondoggle should go the way of Navy Hill and Casinos!

    1. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      I’m not sure that asking a bunch of economists a question about the global wisdom of building stadiums is sufficiently focused to decide much of anything on a case-by-case basis.

      It might be more instructive to make a relatively short road trip to Washington, DC to find out why Mayor Bowser and the DC Council fought tooth and nail to keep the Wizards and Capitals in the city.

      Take a look at the areas in DC near those two stadiums. Then look at pictures from the relatively recent past, before those stadiums were built.

      The change has been dramatic.

  3. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    Great analysis. Another example of how the city of Richmond can’t seem to do basic government stuff. And the mayor is campaigning to be governor!

    1. Chip Gibson Avatar
      Chip Gibson

      Then…..a big stadium in NOVA!

    2. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      The Republicans should be so lucky that the Democrats are dumb enough to nominate TMac 3.0…

  4. Chip Gibson Avatar
    Chip Gibson

    Great article. This stadium challenge is but a symptom of the greater and chronic absence of leadership and character exhibited by those elected to run Richmond. You get what you elect:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/086583eab9b5bc43f3e0aecc7d4aaadf0434594a14a5e8102231360ea7b3613e.jpg

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      I saw the R Braves many times, and now the Squirrels a few…losing that franchise will be a blow to the city, but a self-inflicted wound it seems.

      1. Chip Gibson Avatar
        Chip Gibson

        My memories are all of the Braves. Always a pleasure to catch a game. And, the Richmond Robins were entertaining as well.

  5. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    Maybe we should get Levar elected Governor so all crazy spending ideas won’t pass…
    City of Richmond residents – PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE quit voting based solely on skin color. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE try electing someone competent

  6. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    If you want to have a fun time at a ball game for 5 bucks head to Front Royal and enjoy the Cardinals. Collegiate summer league. Nothing better than watching a ball game at Bing Crosby Stadium on the shores of Happy Creek.
    https://www.frontroyalcardinals.org/

    1. There are also the Potomac Nationals, formerly Prince William Cannons. We saw the PWC a few times when they were in Woodbridge. It was very inexpensive, and they had a nice, intimate, little ballpark.

      I’ve not seen them since they moved to Fredericksburg.

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Do they graze sheep there?

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            don’t think so. But the burg loves the FredNats and their stadium… they’ve become an institution for the area , way more than just the FredNats also, lots of other events there.

            The city essentially entered into a partnership with the owners.. dunno if it might be considered egregious like Richmond is.

          2. It was probably at least a relatively well thought-out partnership, though, wasn’t it? 😉

          3. It was probably at least a relatively well thought-out partnership, though, wasn’t it? 😉

    2. I looked at some of the photos at the website. The Cardinals have a good looking ballpark. Too bad it’s about 100 miles from where I live.

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        Yeah it is cool. Right out of a Norman Rockwell picture. Bing Crosby was recruited by Va. State Senator Raymond Guest to come to Front Royal and promote the building of a ball park in town. Bing. He loved Front Royal. Now if you asked Willie Nelson, he once said the only gig he was ever in fear of his life was in Hell Town Front Royal at the Knotty Pine Restuarant.
        https://blueridgecountry.com/newsstand/magazine/curios-star-struck-in-front-royal-virginia/

      2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        Yeah it is cool. Right out of a Norman Rockwell picture. Bing Crosby was recruited by Va. State Senator Raymond Guest to come to Front Royal and promote the building of a ball park in town. Bing. He loved Front Royal. Now if you asked Willie Nelson, he once said the only gig he was ever in fear of his life was in Hell Town Front Royal at the Knotty Pine Restuarant.
        https://blueridgecountry.com/newsstand/magazine/curios-star-struck-in-front-royal-virginia/

  7. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Polo grounds. What’s wrong with polo grounds? Cheap to build, moderately cheap to maintain, and draws all the best people.

  8. I’m sure the mayor and the city council know what they are doing…

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Therein lies the problem.

      1. I was pretty sure you would know what I was saying.

  9. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    Sports teams pull cities together. They provide common experiences for people from different economic backgrounds.

    Where else would a Black lawyer and a White plumber spend a few hours together socially? They live in different parts of the city, their kids go to different schools.

    America’s cities are segregated – economically if not also racially.

    I remember going to Redskins games at the old RFK Stadium (I made about 5 games / year). Drive to the stadium, park, and start the tailgate. Part of the fun was wandering around from tailgate to tailgate talking to the various people getting ready for the game. If somebody ran out of beer, we’d give them some of ours. If we forgot katchup, they give us some of theirs.

    There’s not enough common bonding across metropolitan areas any more.

    Sports is one of the few places here you see that.

    I don’t know if the Richmond Stadium deal is a good financial idea or a bad financial idea.

    But where else will people from almost all walks of life come together to pursue a common interest?

    The opera?

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      “ Sports teams pull cities together. They provide common experiences for people from different economic backgrounds. ”

      Sports teams owners enrich themselves on tax dollars from people from different economic backgrounds.

      My ex-wife used to point out my “reverse snobbery”. Congratulations, you’ve achieved it too. Now, swill a beer, and feel superior for snubbing the opera.

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      “ Sports teams pull cities together. They provide common experiences for people from different economic backgrounds. ”

      Sports teams owners enrich themselves on tax dollars from people from different economic backgrounds.

      My ex-wife used to point out my “reverse snobbery”. Congratulations, you’ve achieved it too. Now, swill a beer, and feel superior for snubbing the opera.

      You’re a man of means. Are you going to rent a skybox and fill it with the unhoused?

      I could give you hundreds of links to YouTube videos of those lawyers and plumbers beating the snot out of each other in the stands over racial epithets.

      1. DJRippert Avatar
        DJRippert

        I never snubbed the opera. I simply held it out as an example of entertainment which does not generally bring people from different economic classes together.

        “Sports teams owners enrich themselves on tax dollars from people from different economic backgrounds.”

        Welcome to America.

        Biden’s brilliant CHIPS ACT enriched shareholders from:

        Intel Corporation (INTC)
        Applied Materials, Inc. (AMAT)
        Texas Instruments Incorporated (TXN)

        Three threadbare and near penniless corporations.

        “You’re a man of means. Are you going to rent a skybox and fill it with the unhoused?”

        You mean the homeless? No, I’m going to give them a bag of chips to eat. Computer chips. Then I’ll tell them Biden’s incessantly repeated lie that billionaires in the US only pay 8% in federal taxes.

        “I could give you hundreds of links to YouTube videos of those lawyers and plumbers beating the snot out of each other in the stands over racial epithets.”

        I’ve been to hundreds of professional sporting events. Seen a few fights. Only been in one. Some drunken Raiders fan who couldn’t stop flipping off a lady sitting with her two kids in Redskins gear. I’ve never heard a racial insult at a pro sports game. It wouldn’t have been a good idea on Sundays at RFK. I heard plenty at the Richmond-boy fraternities at UVa but none at RFK.

        But, as usual, you never answered the central question – where else do large numbers of people from different economic strata come together anymore in American society?

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Trump rallies?

          1. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            Perhaps. But sadly, the Donald only has one more term. Then what? The Flying Squirrels will be around long after Sleepy Joe and the Orangeman are gone.

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Sleepy Joe has NEVER nodded off during any of his criminal trials.

            A total of 18.1 percent of the population, or 33.6 million adults, watched or listened to opera on the media. Opera ranked 13th in popularity among 14 amateur arts activities.

          3. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Sleepy Joe has NEVER nodded off during any of his criminal trials.

            A total of 18.1 percent of the population, or 33.6 million adults, watched or listened to opera on the media. Opera ranked 13th in popularity among 14 amateur arts activities.

          4. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            I love the smell of a Ne York Times article in the afternoon.

            It smells like victory.

            https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/23/arts/music/opera-diversity.html

          5. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Opera goers and fans are 60% women. Baseball? So, yet another reason Title 9 is necessary.

          6. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Wrong. The Donald can serve many more terms based on guidelines of 3 to 5 years, 10 to 15 years, and the big one 10 to 20 should espionage be shown.

            For you…
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMar4bcZiDE

          7. This is a late reply, but I just thought of something that might help… …well, I’m not sure which candidate it would help. But, how about an opera based on Donald Trump’s term as president? Or better yet, based on his entire life?

            It could start immediately before he was born, with:

            Act One, Scene One: The Silver Spoon Awaits.

            As it follows Trump’s life, it could borrow elements from Fairouz’s The New Prince, Ravel’s L’enfant et les sortilèges, Monteverdi’s L’incoronazione di Poppea, Mozart’s Le nozze di Figaro, Auber’s La Muette de Portici, etc…

          8. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Well, there is Otello, and Trump wouldn’t object to blackface…

    3. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      BTW, is this where I’m supposed to say, “You didn’t build that”?

  10. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    I’m kinda surprised that none of the 2nd Amendment types here have mentioned the edge-weapon massacres happening in Sydney over the past week. To quote Archie on gun control, “Aw jeez, little girl, would you prefer he trow ‘em out a window?”

    1. I’m kinda surprised that none of the 2nd Amendment types here have mentioned the edge-weapon massacres happening in Sydney over the past week.

      I let incidents like that speak for themselves.

  11. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Pet peeve… I know y’all are all “smaller government, fewer laws” types (hahaha), but there aught to be a law…

    The recycle symbol printed or embossed on packaging should be no smaller than 1/2” high and the number no smaller than 14pt typeface.

    1. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      What are you talking about? You know … those tasty chewable candies your grandkids brought back from Maryland weren’t really meant for you.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Recycle. You do know many plastics are reusable and not trash, right? Unlike your vast knowledge of chewables, is it just another thing you don’t know?

        I just had to use a magnifying glass to read the recycle number on a large plastic tray that had other embossed numbers and letters easily read without my glasses. The recycle symbol was less than 1/8” tall and the number font was like 4pt. I was still unsure if it was a “1” or “7”.

        There aught to be a regulation.

      2. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Recycle. You do know many plastics are reusable and not trash, right? Unlike your vast knowledge of chewables, is it just another thing you don’t know?

        I just had to use a magnifying glass to read the recycle number on a large plastic tray that had other embossed numbers and letters easily read without my glasses. The recycle symbol was less than 1/8” tall and the number font was like 4pt. I was still unsure if it was a “1” or “7”.

        There aught to be a regulation.

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