De Paul Medical Center Jan. 29, 2021. Photo Credit: James C. Sherlock

by James C. Sherlock

Not too long ago, before the decline of the malls and COVID, the healthcare community coined what they called the Nordstrom Rule.

The meaning was that if you wished to optimize profits in your healthcare business, build it close to a Nordstrom. The theory was that Nordstrom had already done the market research to identify concentrations of wealthy customers.

I wrote yesterday about the Sisters of Charity and Bon Secours, Catholic charities both. The Sisters were not in it to serve wealthy patients. They purposely located their hospitals among the poor. So 19th and 20th century of them.

Sentara, a more sophisticated public charity, avoids locations close to the poor.

In 1991, Sentara purchased the Humana Bayside Hospital in Virginia Beach, renaming it Sentara Bayside Hospital. That cleansed Virginia Beach of a competitor. But Bayside served Virginia Beach’s largest concentration of economically disadvantaged minorities. So Sentara closed it at the first opportunity.

The Virginia Department of Health brokered the closing of Bayside in 2008 under the cover of the Certificate of Public Need (COPN) process that fatally wounded DePaul, allowing Sentara to relocate the Bayside beds to the new Sentara Princess Anne, far from the minority citizens of Bayside.

The closest hospital for many residents served by Bayside was then, you guessed it, DePaul. No longer.

More about that legendary and devastatingly unfair and anticompetitive COPN decision next time.

Today we’ll talk about the gleaming cornerstone of Sentara’s Hampton Roads monopoly, Norfolk General Hospital, and until now its only competitor in Norfolk and Virginia Beach, Bon Secours DePaul Hospital, which announced this week it was closing as an inpatient hospital and emergency room.

Sentara is now unopposed in the hospital markets of Virginia’s two largest cities. I hope the sommeliers at Sentara headquarters in Norfolk were prepared for the surge in demand.

DePaul Hospital 

If you drive near DePaul hospital, either you live there or DePaul is likely your destination.

The surrounding area is mostly low cost and assisted cost apartments, very small but neat working class houses and low end strip malls. Granby High School is there, as are a few churches and a synagogue, but those do not define the area. Economically disadvantaged families and DePaul Hospital do.

It is easy to see, if you know the history of the area, what the Sisters of Charity saw at the end of the Great Depression with the coming of WW II.

They saw the mass migration of tens of thousands of people, their personal fortunes ravaged by the Depression, moving to Norfolk seeking work in the expanding shipyards, naval bases and port. They built their new DePaul hospital to serve those workers where they were settling. DePaul opened in 1944 in a section of the city then about half white and half black between the Elizabeth River and Norfolk Naval Base.

Most patients of the new DePaul in 1944 could not pay, or could only pay a little if they had found those jobs, but that is what today we would call a feature not a bug to the Sisters. There was no Medicaid, no Medicare. Just the Sisters, their mission and the Catholic church that funded their efforts.

DePaul has failed for a number of reasons including in no particular order:

  • It was built to handle 60o inpatients and thus has an enormous infrastructure. A precipitous decline in inpatients crushed revenue, but did not reduce upkeep costs;
  • There has been a sharp decline of the Catholic donations that helped fund their work;
  • Underfunded Medicare and Medicaid programs, by policy, underpay for services. That triggers  providers of all types to seek payer mixes that feature as many privately insured patients as possible (the Nordstrom Rule);
  • Physicians desire to work and practice in state-of-the-practice facilities, which DePaul, a money-loser for many years, found it difficult to fully fund;
  • Rapid development of outpatient procedures, offset partially by the Commonwealth’s near banning through COPN of outpatient surgery centers not run by a hospital, that are less financially rewarding than the inpatient procedures they replaced;
  • The costs of medical technology –– including those constantly beeping machines and million-dollar robotic surgical assistants — are rising rapidly.
  • In Virginia, the Certificate of Public Need (COPN) program picks winners and losers. By official decision in 2008, the COPN process led by Virginia’s Health Commissioner rejected Bon Secours/DePaul bids to build hospitals in Virginia Beach and Suffolk necessary to secure their financial future in favor of virtually identical bids by Sentara. Game over — it just took 12 years to fully play out;
  • Those of us who live in this area watched the painfully long coup de grace. With Bon Secours fatally wounded by the 2008 COPN decision, Sentara moved to finish it off. It lured away Bon Secours physicians. It bought more physicians’ practices. Bon Secours built a cancer center at DePaul. Sentara moved to build a bigger one at Sentara Leigh campus in Norfolk, closer to the mother load of regional cancer patients in Virginia’s largest city, Virginia Beach.

It worked. DePaul as a hospital and emergency center is dead. COPN and Sentara together (which is perhaps an unnecessary qualifier) have a kill. The physicians practices that DePaul leaves behind in Norfolk have nowhere else to go but Sentara for hospital privileges.

Stuffing and mounting DePaul on the wall is the only thing that will escape them.

Norfolk General

The cornerstone of the Sentara empire, Norfolk General Hospital, in direct contrast to DePaul is located in the exact center of the money and power in Norfolk. A drive from DePaul to Norfolk General is a ride through nearly every level of economic success, starting among the poorest citizens and arriving at the doorsteps of Norfolk’s wealthiest and most powerful people.

Norfolk General’s gleaming towers overlook the Elizabeth River, the mansions of the Hague and Ghent, the Chrysler Museum, the Harrison Opera House — you get the idea.

I wager that few who live in that area could find DePaul Hospital on a map. The right people are not interested in such places. DePaul would certainly not make for proper conversation at Ghent cocktail parties. They are only woke to a point that the consequences do not reach their doors.

And yes, Nordstrom located its Norfolk emporium near Norfolk General Hospital 20 years ago. In this case, flipping the old saying, Sentara had already done the market research for Nordstrom.

An Opportunity

I am going to try to postpone the Sentara celebration by offering for consideration a use for the massive DePaul infrastructure.

I strongly recommend the sale or gift of the DePaul complex to either Mayo Clinic or Cleveland Clinic to serve as their mid-Atlantic campus.

A campus of a world-class health system will serve patients near DePaul but not depend upon the cash flows they generate. Such a facility, like every other Mayo and Cleveland Clinic campus, will be a huge draw for medical tourism. The property is just off I-64 and very close to the airport. The new tunnel will make access much quicker from the west.

Mayo and or/Cleveland Clinic may very well find this appealing if it is marketed and incentivized properly. It is what they do, and neither has a mid-Atlantic campus.

There are at least four distinct benefits to such a course of action for the Commonwealth and Hampton Roads:

  • It will serve both the people and the medical practitioners of Hampton Roads by raising the level of medical care here;
  • It will restore competition in the hospital industry in Hampton Roads;
  • It will revitalize the economy of Norfolk and South Hampton Roads; and
  • Sentara will hate it.

I hope the Governor, Virginia’s Health Commissioner (final decision authority on COPN), Norfolk’s Mayor and City Council and every politically-connected individual and interest group in Hampton Roads will get behind this effort.

They certainly owe us one.


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33 responses to “DePaul Hospital’s Closing Presents a Unique Opportunity for Hampton Roads”

  1. Powerful piece. I am continually astonished that the powers-that-be in Virginia allow the Sentara anaconda to tighten its squeeze of the south Hampton Roads market. Is there a single Top 50 MSA in the country where a single healthcare system has such a dominating control over the health market?

  2. Powerful piece. I am continually astonished that the powers-that-be in Virginia allow the Sentara anaconda to tighten its squeeze of the south Hampton Roads market. Is there a single Top 50 MSA in the country where a single healthcare system has such a dominating control over the health market?

  3. Nancy_Naive Avatar
    Nancy_Naive

    Between Sentara and Riverside, Bon Secours is getting squeezed royally. But it was a partnership between DePaul and Sentara that expanded Princess Anne.

    1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
      Nancy_Naive

      That’s why we have tubs. Uber, Lyft charge a $150 cleaning fee, which compared to a hospital… meh, not bad, but Aetna won’t pay any part of it.

      The good news is they painted the chocolate Jesus statue at MIMC back to white. Well, sandblasted the brown paint off is more likely.

    2. LarrytheG Avatar

      The bigger problem for many, and especially for low-income folks is not hospital care but regular primary care from a doctor.

      Conditions like diabetes, obesity, smoking, etc… need to be actively managed and have prescription drugs available.

      I do not dispute there is consolidation going on in health care with one of the bigger changes is hospitals getting involved with primary care.

      For instance, if you take a look at Culpeper and Orange county, you will see UVA standing up satellite offices for primary care – and, in fact, net additional providers and they are now serving those with medicaid – both original and the expansion.

      Hospital systems are now using electronic medical records like MyChart which contains medications, blood tests, medical history, etc that is shared with the affiliated providers also.

      That’s a huge step forward for a lot of people who have chronic conditions that need to be managed and require different providers sometimes.

      In other words, health care is improving – with more and more folks getting access to routine primary care rather than letting untreated diseases progress to the point where a hospital is needed.

      this is another one of those half-glass full or empty things I think.

      bottom line – health care seems to be improving DESPITE all this bad sounding stuff about COPN and hospital consolidations.

      Finally, to me, if a hospital is required to treat low-income and poor, they need a way to recover those costs.

      If they can do that by selling elective procedures for profit – then is that any worse than cost-shifting by inflating all services?

      To be honest, I’d rather see a hospital system with satellite clinics using electronic medical records than a mish-mash of private sector providers who do not use electronic medical records .

      We keep saying that government is the problem with Healthcare in the US but in every other developed country on the planet, government IS THE SOLUTION for healthcare – not the problem.

      We continue to live in denial , trying to swim upstream by saying govt and “big” healthcare are the problem. I’m not at all convinced.

      1. sherlockj Avatar

        Of course none of those things were subjects of my column.

        Summary of my essay:
        – COPN and Sentara killed DePaul
        – Mayo Clinic and Cleveland Clinic are the two highest rated hospital systems in America, and some will argue the world.
        – Getting one of them to Norfolk is a good idea.
        – The death of DePaul provides perhaps an unprecedented opportunity to do that.
        – Do it.

        1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
          Nancy_Naive

          Or,… UVa can open a second med school.

  4. Nancy_Naive Avatar
    Nancy_Naive

    Between Sentara and Riverside, Bon Secours is getting squeezed royally. But it was a partnership between DePaul and Sentara that expanded Princess Anne.

    1. sherlockj Avatar

      You are correct, but only because Sentara did not have enough inpatient beds to “turn in” to the COPN czars for permission to build the larger facility they wanted.

      After Sentara “turned in” all of the inpatient beds from Bayside Hospital that used to be occupied by, you know, “those” people, they were still short of what they wanted. That was it. Period.

      It happened after Sentara was awarded the facility.

      For Sentara, it was not personal, just business. And Sentara retained 100% of the Princess Anne outpatient business.

      Sentara then closed the obstetrics service at Sentara Virginia Beach General to pump up the volume at Princess Anne. Just announced it one day. Here’s hoping the ladies from my part of Virginia Beach have been able to hold their labors until they reach Princess Anne, which is 40 minutes traffic permitting from my house.

      But it’s just business.

  5. Editormom Avatar

    Well written, but I dare say this writer is NOT familiar with the area around DePaul if he merely limits it to apartments (many of which have been torn down for fantastic new condos) and modest working-class homes. He writes: “If you drive near DePaul hospital, either you live there or DePaul is likely your destination. The surrounding area is mostly low cost and assisted cost apartments, very small but neat working class houses and low end strip malls. Granby High School is there, as are a few churches and a synagogue, but those do not define the area. Economically disadvantaged families and DePaul Hospital do.”
    Golly, I literally live in the shadow of DePaul in a gorgeous waterfront community of houses selling for $375,000 to $750,000. Several of Norfolk’s nicest neighborhoods – among them Talbot Park, Riverpoint and Belvedere, all on prime waterfront property with upper middle-class price points – surround the hospital (including my own), with many more similar or wealthier neighborhoods within a three-mile (anyone ever heard of Lochaven?) radius. The author has oversimplified DePaul’s surrounding economic profile to make his argument but paints a not-quite-accurate picture of DePaul’s environs. Lovely neighborhoods are not limited to Ghent.
    But, yes, we’d love to see DePaul become a Mayo Clinic. Now that would be a real boon for Norfolk, help the sick and raise property values in our already-excellent surrounding neighborhoods.

    1. Editormom Avatar

      Thank you for the response. Did you actually venture into the neighborhoods fronting and on both sides of the hospital rather than simply look at the homes lining Granby Street as your guide? The main roads like Granby, Little Creek and Hampton Boulevard are lined with modest, working class homes and apartments as you describe, as many high-traffic roads are, but when you turn off them down into the actual neighborhoods you will immediately see you are very much mistaken. I have lived in Norfolk my entire life and have worked within and for the real estate industry for over 15 years and am intimately familiar with home valuations. A home in Talbot Park, for example, will not sell for four times more if plopped in Ghent. You are simply incorrect. I am happy to give you a tour of said neighborhoods and comparisons, and you can be availed of CMAs – comparative market analyses – to gain better understanding. A fellow resident who has read this piece is taken aback as well by your over generalizations, and I suspect more will be as it makes the rounds. I understand you are trying to paint a picture to make your case, but your palette so to speak is off.

      1. sherlockj Avatar

        I never want to argue with a real estate agent. Work hard to bring my recommendation to fruition. It will remake your entire section of Norfolk. And there won’t be enough real estate agents to handle the new demand.

        1. Editormom Avatar

          Kind sir, you again are making assumptions. I am not a real estate agent but have worked in and for real estate for 15 years, including researching and writing articles and editing publications about our housing market, which makes me tremendously familiar with it, including valuations in these neighborhoods and more. The numbers don’t lie. Just as you have faultily painted our area, you have faultily painted my profession. Never trust assumptions. Again, my offer stands so that you may see with your own eyes the neighborhoods literally embracing DePaul and beyond. I’m not making this up, and you are providing an inaccurate picture to your readership to make your case. Quite frankly, it’s irresponsible.

      2. Nancy_Naive Avatar
        Nancy_Naive

        He lives in VB, probably on, or near, Linkhorn Bay. There’s an attitude that comes with those digs which is not entirely undeserved.

        I grew up in Norfolk and some of the most beutiful 100+ year old houses in the nation can be found along Granby south of the high school and north of the Elizabeth River, Talbot Park being one of those neighborhood. In those areas between Granby and Tidewater along the river, it’s easy to get lost at night.

        1. sherlockj Avatar

          See my response to Editormom below.

          The road to hell, or in this case from DePaul to Norfolk General, is indeed paved with good intentions, even if, as I did, one has to stop for 30 minutes at a railroad crossing watching train cars flow by stacked with Chinese containers from the port.

          I wonder if she’ll remember me in her will.

          1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
            Nancy_Naive

            Oh no. You have to use the underpasses when traversing north-south; Tidewater, Montecello, Colley, and HR Blvd. I like Llewellyn, but trains are commute killers.

            BTW, you really need to Sunday drive the neighborhoods around the Lafayette River. Amazing homes.

            Btw, I meant Lafayette in the last post too.

        2. sherlockj Avatar

          So I “need to take a Sunday drive the neighborhoods around the Elizabeth River”. Define “need”.

          Get with Editormom and she’ll give you the tour. After all, she has “worked in and for real estate for 15 years”. Enjoy.

          Seriously, does anyone need to be convinced that waterfront residential property in Norfolk is more, well, “embracing” as Editormom describes it, than inland?

          As for “embracing”, anyone who reads the Virginian-Pilot’s excellent series on segregation in Norfolk and looks at the segregation maps will see exactly who Norfolk’s waterfront residential communities are embracing.

          Market the hospital to Mayo and Cleveland Clinic.

          Crush Sentara’s 100% monopoly on the Norfolk/Virginia Beach hospital market.

          And I won’t write anything ever again about real estate.

          I promise.

          1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
            Nancy_Naive

            Well, given Google Earth 3D, need may be too strong of a word.

            Being a house lover, I like to cruise old neighborhoods.

      3. sherlockj Avatar

        I absolutely surrender. Unconditionally.

        I wrote a story about why the Sisters of Charity bought and developed land in your area in 1940 to build DePaul Hospital.

        I then very accurately described a drive the very day I wrote my article between DePaul and Norfolk General.

        I then recommended the state and local governments work hard to attract Mayo or Cleveland Clinic to take DePaul and make it their own.

        It was not my intention, but an undeniable fact, that if my recommendation is followed, you and your neighbors will benefit enormously.

        I tried to apologize if you were somehow offended by that and you took offense a second time.

        Now you ask me to parse the difference between a real estate agent and one who has “worked in and for real estate for 15 years”. And I should let you show me “the neighborhoods literally embracing DePaul and beyond”. Not. going. to. happen.

        I have a single question: How comforting is it going to be to “embrace” an empty building?

        And a recommendation: try to recognize when someone is trying to help.

        That said, I withdraw from the field, utterly defeated.

        1. Editormom Avatar

          Nancy, given that the writer does not know to utilize the easy workarounds in Norfolk – bridges, underpasses and overpasses – to avoid 30-minute waits at trains says much about his familiarity with Norfolk and general assumptions about this city. Golly, get off the interstate at Tidewater Drive to traverse Thole to DePaul, for example, but stuck at a train? Easy peasy … continue down Tidewater, over the overpass, and turn right just after Norfolk Collegiate to take the Lakewood Bridge to Granby, then turn right at Granby and there you have it. Quick and easy. And, in fact, you have just avoided the cop who often awaits speeders on Thole.

    2. Editormom Avatar

      More simply put, “embrace” equals the neighborhoods literally touching DePaul on both sides and across the street as well as those leading up to said neighborhoods, plus within a radius of the hospital. Don’t forget that the gorgeous Ghent, too, has “ low cost and assisted cost apartments, very small but neat working class house,” as you described, and that the city already full bore into its plans to knock down huge swaths of assisted housing in and near downtown and Ghent. The question remains, where will those affected live? It is very much on the minds of Norfolkians who worry about our fellow residents finding homes and how they will live. You did not include this in your narrative.
      And, as noted, we would welcome a Mayo Clinic with open arms. I appreciate your article and idea and think it is a fine one, but I do feel you were ham handed in your approach and did not research the neighborhoods properly, and as many outside of Norfolk are wont to do, have described it in a way that many outside our fair city do – as poor, sad Norfolk. Not the case.
      You are right in that the road is hell is often paved with good intentions.

  6. Editormom Avatar

    Well written, but I dare say this writer is NOT familiar with the area around DePaul if he merely limits it to apartments (many of which have been torn down for fantastic new condos) and modest working-class homes. He writes: “If you drive near DePaul hospital, either you live there or DePaul is likely your destination. The surrounding area is mostly low cost and assisted cost apartments, very small but neat working class houses and low end strip malls. Granby High School is there, as are a few churches and a synagogue, but those do not define the area. Economically disadvantaged families and DePaul Hospital do.”
    Golly, I literally live in the shadow of DePaul in a gorgeous waterfront community of houses selling for $375,000 to $750,000. Several of Norfolk’s nicest neighborhoods – among them Talbot Park, Riverpoint and Belvedere, all on prime waterfront property with upper middle-class price points – surround the hospital (including my own), with many more similar or wealthier neighborhoods within a three-mile (anyone ever heard of Lochaven?) radius. The author has oversimplified DePaul’s surrounding economic profile to make his argument but paints a not-quite-accurate picture of DePaul’s environs. Lovely neighborhoods are not limited to Ghent.
    But, yes, we’d love to see DePaul become a Mayo Clinic. Now that would be a real boon for Norfolk, help the sick and raise property values in our already-excellent surrounding neighborhoods.

    1. sherlockj Avatar

      I apologize if I offended. But I made that exact drive yesterday before I wrote the column describing it.

      I did not mean to disparage any individual home, including yours. Your neighborhood sounds great, and also sounds like a great value, so I congratulate you and your neighbors.

      But it is the exception not the rule in the area served by DePaul. Waterfront homes are valuable all over Tidewater. The truth is that your waterfront community of homes “from $375,000 to $750,000” would have values four times that in Ghent. Just a fact that reflects the overall value of the surrounding area, not the beauty of your community.

      I meant no individual offense, but the thrust of my description is correct, and current as of yesterday.

  7. LarrytheG Avatar

    Any would be hospital competitor to this area would likely involve one that is also focused on profit and serving those who can afford elective procedures like knee replacements and such.

    So yes.. there may be some competition on THAT “front” but again, how does ANY hospital relate to the health status of most who are in the community including the low income folks?

    Our hospital in Fredericksburg DID get some competition – the Spotsylvania Regiional hospital – actually a for-profit hospital – “HCA Healthcare is an American for-profit operator of health care facilities that was founded in 1968. It is based in Nashville, Tennessee, and, as of May 2020, owns and operates 186 hospitals and approximately 2,000 sites of care, including surgery centers, freestanding emergency rooms, urgent care centers and physician clinics in 21 states and the United Kingdom.”

    So there’s your competition?

    MWC has provided land and helps staff the Lloyd Moss Free Clinic – which serves the lower income community – as well as has an office that assists them with MedicAid and ACA insurance.

    MWC is also “profitable” but supposedly a “non-profit”

    I would argue that “profitable” is not necessarily an “evil” concept for hospitals. They have much more financial ability and sustainability to provide care and services than smaller competitors with thinner resources.

    Compare that situation to rural areas and regions that are not as appealing to larger hospitals and really do suffer with locally-owned hospitals on the edge of closing and far less services to the surrounding community. Any bigger corporate chain would probably do better.

    It’s a little like comparing a Walmart supercenter to a bunch of mom/pops. Most of the time, the mom/pops dont’ have the selection and most of the time they actually cost more. Typically the Walmarts are actually more efficient and more productive.

    So.. Mayo and the like are not coming to DePaul unless they see a healthy opportunity for profit, and that’s really no big surprise.

    Not even the Mayo folks can deliver healthcare at a loss and survive.

    1. sherlockj Avatar

      I’ll try again.

      None of those things were subjects of my column.

      Summary of my essay:
      – COPN and Sentara killed DePaul
      – Mayo Clinic and Cleveland Clinic are the two highest rated hospital systems in America, and some will argue the world.
      – Getting one of them to Norfolk is a good idea.
      – The death of DePaul provides perhaps an unprecedented opportunity to do that.
      – Do it.

      There is no scenario where Mayo and Cleveland Clinics deliver healthcare at a loss. They are such magnets for patients seeking the best care that they create separate markets. They make so much from people willing to pay for their quality that they can contribute far more services and cash to the surrounding community than anyone we have in Virginia.

      The magic is, that is exactly what they do. Give back. Join the chorus of getting them to Norfolk.

      The enormous infrastructure that they can take over in the failed DePaul is a once in a Virginia lifetime opportunity.

    2. LarrytheG Avatar

      True – but they are more like the UVA model with it’s satellites community clinics – as a more community-oriented hospital serving all walks of life and not just elite folks for high-dollar procedures.

      I like the Cleveland and Mayo concepts and indeed they would be an asset to the region but doubt that they’d be serving the same demographic that DePaul did. A UVA type hospital would.

      1. sherlockj Avatar

        “a more community-oriented hospital serving all walks of life and not just elite folks for high-dollar procedures. “doubt that they’d be serving the same demographic that DePaul did. A UVA type hospital would.”

        What information has caused you to doubt that Mayo or Cleveland Clinic would serve patients in the vicinity of their hospital?

        Not only is the evidence of their operations elsewhere in the country directly contrary to that, but each of those organizations has proved to devote considerably more attention and assets to community health than the current regional monopoly.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          I don’t see them doing community satellites like UVA is doing and it appears they do limit what kinds of things they treat and it does not sound like just ordinary community-based primary care.

          Am I wrong?

  8. LarrytheG Avatar

    Any would be hospital competitor to this area would likely involve one that is also focused on profit and serving those who can afford elective procedures like knee replacements and such.

    So yes.. there may be some competition on THAT “front” but again, how does ANY hospital relate to the health status of most who are in the community including the low income folks?

    Our hospital in Fredericksburg DID get some competition – the Spotsylvania Regiional hospital – actually a for-profit hospital – “HCA Healthcare is an American for-profit operator of health care facilities that was founded in 1968. It is based in Nashville, Tennessee, and, as of May 2020, owns and operates 186 hospitals and approximately 2,000 sites of care, including surgery centers, freestanding emergency rooms, urgent care centers and physician clinics in 21 states and the United Kingdom.”

    So there’s your competition?

    MWC has provided land and helps staff the Lloyd Moss Free Clinic – which serves the lower income community – as well as has an office that assists them with MedicAid and ACA insurance.

    MWC is also “profitable” but supposedly a “non-profit”

    I would argue that “profitable” is not necessarily an “evil” concept for hospitals. They have much more financial ability and sustainability to provide care and services than smaller competitors with thinner resources.

    Compare that situation to rural areas and regions that are not as appealing to larger hospitals and really do suffer with locally-owned hospitals on the edge of closing and far less services to the surrounding community. Any bigger corporate chain would probably do better.

    It’s a little like comparing a Walmart supercenter to a bunch of mom/pops. Most of the time, the mom/pops dont’ have the selection and most of the time they actually cost more. Typically the Walmarts are actually more efficient and more productive.

    So.. Mayo and the like are not coming to DePaul unless they see a healthy opportunity for profit, and that’s really no big surprise.

    Not even the Mayo folks can deliver healthcare at a loss and survive.

    1. sherlockj Avatar

      I’ll try again.

      None of those things were subjects of my column.

      Summary of my essay:
      – COPN and Sentara killed DePaul
      – Mayo Clinic and Cleveland Clinic are the two highest rated hospital systems in America, and some will argue the world.
      – Getting one of them to Norfolk is a good idea.
      – The death of DePaul provides perhaps an unprecedented opportunity to do that.
      – Do it.

      There is no scenario where Mayo and Cleveland Clinics deliver healthcare at a loss. They are such magnets for patients seeking the best care that they create separate markets. They make so much from people willing to pay for their quality that they can contribute far more services and cash to the surrounding community than anyone we have in Virginia.

      The magic is, that is exactly what they do. Give back. Join the chorus of getting them to Norfolk.

      The enormous infrastructure that they can take over in the failed DePaul is a once in a Virginia lifetime opportunity.

    2. sherlockj Avatar

      Comparing Mayo or Cleveland Clinic to anything that is going on in Fredericksburg is a mistake of the first order. You are getting a big VA facility I understand, and congratulations, but this is a different league.

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