Democrats at a Town Hall: Earning a Merit Award ‘Doesn’t Matter That Much’

by Steve Spiker

The investigation into Northern Virginia schools withholding notification that some students earned Merit Recognition, based on scoring in the top 3% of the country, started with just one school, the prestigious Thomas Jefferson School for Science and Technology. Since this issue was first uncovered a few weeks ago, there has been a steady drip of new schools where recognition was delayed: first other high schools in Fairfax; then Loudoun;  then Prince William; and now even Stafford County has been impacted.

The response has been swift. Parents are outraged that notification of these awards was withheld, and for good reason: scoring in the top 3% of all national students can make a college application stand out, and can be the difference between receiving a scholarship or not, or in how much money they receive. For example, some universities like Liberty University offer a full scholarship to recipients.

For parents struggling with the high and rising costs of tuition, and students concerned about being saddled with crippling debt at the start of their careers, receiving a full or even partial scholarship can be a major, life-changing award. Yet systematically across Northern Virginia, some students didn’t receive notice of their Letter of Commendation until after deadlines for college applications passed.

Attorney General Jason Miyares has announced an investigation into the issue, supported by Governor Glenn Youngkin as well. This should be the minimum response: it is clear the excuse of an “administrative oversight” that has hurt hundreds of students across a dozen schools in multiple counties is not sufficient explanation.

Yet, Democrats are quick to dismiss parents’ concerns entirely.

At a Town Hall meeting with constituents, State Senator Scott Surovell (D) and Del. Mark Sickles (D) were asked about the issue, and their glib responses dismissing parents’ concerns echoes Terry McAuliffe’s infamous remarks that parents shouldn’t have a say in their kids’ education:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ckSzrgrDaU

Surovell said: “Bottom line, I don’t see it as something we ought to investigate.” He added that he suspects many high schools across the Commonwealth don’t provide recognition to students ahead of college application deadlines, which isn’t the case against investigating he thinks it is.

Surovell is claiming this isn’t out of the ordinary, and therefore parents shouldn’t be upset. However, this is at odds with the Superintendents in the affected counties, who fully admit that there was a delay, are apologizing for it, and claim to be taking steps to reach out to colleges on students’ behalf and make sure this never happens again.

Mark Sickles takes things even further, calling parents’ concerns “ridiculous,” before issuing a stream of disinformation meant to tell parents to shut up and let the government handle it.

First, Sickles claims that schools aren’t obligated to notify students because it’s “on behalf of a private company.” Putting aside his clear disdain for non-governmental organizations trying to improve and reward excellence in education, Sickles is flatly wrong on this point, as ABC News points out:

Schools are tasked in the fall with notifying students whether they were recognized as a commended student.

Which makes sense why all the impacted Superintendents are apologizing and instructing their staffs to try and make amends.

Second, and even more grossly, Sickles dismisses the Award as a mere “third-place placement” that “doesn’t matter that much.” In fact, Sickles claims that as the reason why administrators “forgot” to notify students of their award.

To put this into perspective, here’s what Sickles is referring to, from the site “Prep Gurus,” which provides resources to students and parents:

The red slice of 50,000 students – the top 3% in the country, resulting in a Letter of Commendation – is what Sickles is saying isn’t really an achievement worth anything.

Sickles claims it doesn’t matter because he doesn’t believe it will be the deciding difference between whether a student gets into college or not. He has no idea whether that’s true. After all, students spend months building as strong a case as possible for their acceptance. Dismissing any one factor as irrelevant is absurd, especially when it’s defending the mistake of the school system that students and parents are asked to trust.

Sickles’ claim also entirely discounts the impact on scholarships, which isn’t always a yes/no decision; the amount of an award is also being determined. Dismissing the achievement of Virginia students is not only a slap in the face, but can and will also have a major impact on which college they can attend, or if they can attend at all.

But this is where entrenched Democrats have taken things: dismissing mistakes that school systems are apologizing for as “faux outrage” by telling parents that their child earning in the top 3% of all national students is meaningless.

There are likely to be even more students and schools impacted, and the investigation will continue. In the meantime, Virginians need to know if other Democrats agree with Surovell’s and Sickles’ callous words. Do they stand with the Attorney General and Governor standing up for parents and students, or do they think that Merit Awards don’t “mean that much” and parent’s concerns are “ridiculous”? Their answer (or lack thereof) will go a long way in telling you how much they believe in holding the school system accountable to the public.


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76 responses to “Democrats at a Town Hall: Earning a Merit Award ‘Doesn’t Matter That Much’”

  1. Color me surprised…… Leftist down playing Asian-American excellence in academics. No biggy…..Asian hate is on the rise…. and it’s from the Left, not the Right.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      A Democrat delegate of Asian ancestry was on the House Floor yesterday decrying discrimination and somehow this never came up.

      1. M. Purdy Avatar

        It’s because most Asians don’t care about a third place awards for a practice test. The more serious issue is the admissions stuff, which Asians certainly care about. This is a side show instigated by folks who don’t have real policies to push.

        1. Warmac9999 Avatar
          Warmac9999

          So Asians don’t care about the accomplishments of their kids unless they are first place. That is untrue.

          1. M. Purdy Avatar

            No, I didn’t say that. I said that, by and large, they don’t care about this particular commendation (I don’t think you can even call it an award).

          2. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            You really need to rethink that. A success driven culture celebrates all awards

    2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      Are you claiming that only Asians were not notified?

      1. Warmac9999 Avatar
        Warmac9999

        I am sure others were also misled. The origins of the Asian limits was when Thomas Jefferson HS was only school and there was only one school district involved

    3. VaNavVet Avatar

      We all saw them marching in Charlottesville to “unite the right” under the chants of “blood and soil”.

      1. Warmac9999 Avatar
        Warmac9999

        How do you defend yourself against the WEF and global fascism?

        1. VaNavVet Avatar

          Sounds like you are now pushing a Jewish world domination conspiracy theory. Yes they did chant “Jews will not replace us” at that rally in Charlottesville.

    4. M. Purdy Avatar

      “Asian hate is on the rise…. and it’s from the Left, not the Right.” The leader of the Republican party routinely makes racist claims against Asians and calls the coronavirus the “China virus.” So I’d say that’s not accurate.

      1. Warmac9999 Avatar
        Warmac9999

        I call it what it is – a Chinese communist bioweapon release. Only issue is was it accidental.

        1. M. Purdy Avatar

          What do you think about the former president saying wacky pants racist stuff about Asians?

          1. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            He was talking about the CHICOMs who deserved to be ridiculed and condemned.

  2. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    If only these PSAT Commendation Certificates had been classified Top Secret and sent to the White House. Once is an accident, twice is and unhappy coincidence, but thrice (VP Pence) is a systemic problem.

    1. Warmac9999 Avatar
      Warmac9999

      Unless, of course, top secret was intentionally sold to the highest bidder.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        I am sooooo proud of GW! Hear tell he got out in front with a statement today akin to “Laura and I unpacked all of our boxes from the White House when we arrived in Texas, and there were no classified documents. I have also verified with the Archives that any government documents were copies.”

        1. Warmac9999 Avatar
          Warmac9999

          Thus, the corruption started with Obama.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Or GHW. Things preserve well in Maine. I also refuse to believe that, as a Congressman, Biden was just the only one in 535.

          2. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            There are almost assuredly others. Schiff is a good example but there are republicans as well. Biden turned it into a family industry.

  3. Warmac9999 Avatar
    Warmac9999

    I find it interesting that so many on the left say this is no big deal. Well, to a 17 year old it is a big deal. It is recognition of success associated with hard work. In addition, it is bragging rights for parents and family. And, of course, it is meaningful because it goes on a resume and lets schools and employers know what kind of an individual they are dealing with.

    Employers, by the way, hire interns who they hope will work out and become actual employees upon graduation. If a resume has national merit commendation or more on it, an employer is more likely to give valuable but limited intern positions to those kids. Thus, there is not only academic benefits but potential long term employment benefits.

    The public schools that withheld this information did tangible damage to their best students.

    1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      The 17 year old knows in April if they make the “Commended” cut. The September announcement is if they make the Semi-finalist cut.

      1. Warmac9999 Avatar
        Warmac9999

        Nice assumption. You don’t actually know.

        1. Warmac9999 Avatar
          Warmac9999

          You don’t actually know how this is handled. The investigation will address it. You do not speak for every public school and you know it.

    2. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      It would be a great public service to provide some testimony from 17 year olds about the importance of being notified about the commendatoin.

      1. Warmac9999 Avatar
        Warmac9999

        I agree. But you have to make sure they aren’t intimidated and free to say what they want. No coaching. I remember getting easily into my school of choice because of the national merit system. Got a half scholarship and eventually a full ride with internships. Don’t tell me awards like this don’t matter. I am surprised that the schools don’t have award assemblies for this like they do for sports.

  4. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    From this page: https://admissionsight.com/understanding-the-national-merit-commended-scholar/

    “Stages of Becoming a National Merit Commended Scholar

    Program Recognition Students. Students who scored in the top 50,000 on the PSAT are informed that they made the first cut in April. If you are given this recognition and meet the requirements to be a semifinalist or commended student, your school will let you know.”

    Hope that clarifies things a bit. Students knew they made the Commended cut in April.

    1. Warmac9999 Avatar
      Warmac9999

      Except, the schools played games. Nobody knows at this point and that is why an investigation is underway.

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        We actually do know… it is public knowledge… the “investigation” is a political ruse.

        1. Warmac9999 Avatar
          Warmac9999

          Another assumption on your part. You want it to go away rather than get it cleaned up. Your progressivism is looking foolish and you don’t like it.

    2. Warmac9999 Avatar
      Warmac9999

      How are they notified. I get the impression that the process is rather lazy and not made into a big deal. Take a school of 1000, 3% is thirty and in a poor school, it might be 5 or 10. And what are you pushing – educational excellence or baby sitting socialization.

  5. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    You can guarantee that every school board member across the Commonwealth has treed their superintendents to make sure those award winners are dutifully notified now. I checked in Fauquier. No chance of egg on their face. The school year has been a challenge on its own.

    1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      True that…

      1. Warmac9999 Avatar
        Warmac9999

        There is no excuse for misinforming students and parents here. What was done was deliberate and admitted as such by the education ESG progressives. You play the blame shifting game and it is a lie.

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          Nobody was “misinformed”.

          1. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            Well, another contradiction in that school authorities have admitted withholding the info. You need a better set of distortions and disinformation.

          2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Again, nobody was “misinformed”. The information you are citing was available to them in April. The schools do not need to inform them that they made the 50,000 student cut. The only thing they failed to do was inform them that they did not make the semi-finalist cut.

  6. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    It the particular recognition that was not shared is just the “third place,” as Delegate Sickles claims, I would ask were notifications made about the second and first place? As I recall the top rung, an actual National Merit Scholarship award, is dependent on first achieving the earlier notice and then making an active application. Who would apply if not aware they might be eligible? Many of the scholarships come from outside groups, and you have to know you can apply.

    The smell of sour grape is strong.

    1. Warmac9999 Avatar
      Warmac9999

      Even individuals who don’t make the highest level will often get additional scholarship money. This is particularly the case with lesser known colleges and universities. It may not matter at UVA but it could certainly matter at Mary Baldwin University.

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        They know they made the 1st cut in April. They are not missing out on any money.

        1. Please show where you get this info. My comment above shows otherwise.

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            I posted the link and quoted the pertinent information in a comment to the main article. Did not want to duplicate links per guidance.

    2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      The National Merit organizations notifies the students they made the first cut in April. They knew that then. The cuts that are notified in September are the Semi-finalists. Bottomline – if you don’t make the 2nd cut you are Commended only. That is what the schools announce – who made the second cut.

      1. Warmac9999 Avatar
        Warmac9999

        Should be all who made it. Maybe make the honor known school wide in an assembly. Oh, that’s right, somebody’s feelings might be hurt.

    3. Cathis398 Avatar

      only semifinalists and finalists can apply for the National Merit Scholarship.

      1. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        But were those folks told? I can remember being told in 1971. Was it only the commended level that was kept in the dark?

        1. Cathis398 Avatar

          at least in terms of what’s been reported in public, only those in the “commended” category weren’t notified.

          if it turns out semi finalists & finalists weren’t notified and so were unable to apply for the Scholarship itself, that will be a significantly bigger deal.

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Commended are notified in April. The only thing held until September is the Semi-finalists.

          2. Eric, it appears you are incorrect on this according to https://www.nationalmerit.org/s/1758/interior.aspx?sid=1758&gid=2&pgid=424
            In early  September …To ensure that academically talented young people from all parts of the United States are included in this talent pool, Semifinalists are designated on a state-representational basis. Semifinalists are the
            highest scoring entrants in each state.” So that is why Commended letters are sent in late September. The cut score could not show Commended vs Semifinalist because that determination varies by state.

          3. Not Today Avatar

            Commended letters aren’t sent earlier because, by process of elimination, you can figure out who is a semi-finalist and who isn’t. Everyone knows the cut scores are state-specific. A Mississippi Semifinalist might not even be commended in VA.

          4. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            No excuse. All should have been notified. If you are in the 50,000 out of 1.5 million that is a big deal. In the bad old days, such successes would have been celebrated by the school in a special ceremony.

  7. Cathis398 Avatar

    to be clear, the students should have been informed, and it is very curious that they weren’t.

    but this article repeatedly uses the word “award” and “merit recognition” and so on. The actual word is “commendation.” It’s not a word that anyone I know in college admissions has ever heard of, and I know quite a few. Why? well among other things, this is the PSAT, the preliminary test, not the SAT itself. The whole point of the PSAT is to have a lower-stakes test prior to the SAT, one that isn’t used for admissions. So schools using the PSAT in admissions are already doing something odd; further, the only cases where this would seem to have any impact are ones in which a student does very well on the PSAT but poorly on the SAT itself. I’m sure that does happen, but I suspect it is pretty rare. In general the scores are pretty closely aligned, and if anything, students tend to do better on the SAT.

    It does seem that there are a few scholarships available to students based on the commendation alone. It’s a shame for anyone to lose that opportunity, and they should not have. But one thing this writer and Miyares and others overlook is that there is no question that the actual test scores were made available to students and to any colleges they applied to. If percentile rank on PSAT is important to admissions, that information is available to the colleges, and it would take a lot of work to prevent colleges from getting it: percentile rank is included with the test score. The only thing that isn’t included is the label “commendation.” It would seem remarkable to me if a school that cares about PSAT scores would deny admission to a student who scored in the top 3% of students nationwide (which again they absolutely do know) because it doesn’t have the label “commended”–a label that isn’t even included on the direct reports. Admissions officers aren’t idiots. If they care about PSAT scores, they absolutely do have the scores to look at. This could be made much clearer in these stories (and frankly in AG Miyares’s statements).

    So I understand why Democrats are pushing back on the story that is being significantly blown out of proportion. Schools and the students themselves DO have the PSAT scores & ranks. That is beyond question.

    EDIT: i just did a little bit of digging, and in fact PSAT scores are not supposed to be shared with colleges (“The PSAT won’t count towards your college admissions applications”), https://www.princetonreview.com/college/psat-information.

    Interestingly, the College Board which administers the PSAT offers a number of services to connect test takers with scholarships they may be eligible for (see https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/psat-nmsqt/scholarships-recognition). Since these recommendations are derived automatically from PSAT scores and from the College Board, it would be interesting to learn whether student eligibility is actually affected by whether or not they have been notified about being commended. It would not surprise me if the automated scholarship matching already knows what it needs to know.

    1. M. Purdy Avatar

      This is blown out of proportion b/c the boys in Richmond have no substantive policies to push. So they’re back to their culture war shenanigans over a largely meaningless “commendation.”

      1. Warmac9999 Avatar
        Warmac9999

        And you are pushing the progressive no big deal shenanigans. Speaking as a parent, it is a big deal.

        1. M. Purdy Avatar

          I too am a parent. A fairly well-educated Asian one at that. This is not a big deal. The bigger deal is the admissions stuff at Harvard and TJHSST. Those are legit big deals.

          1. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            Well, I have talked to other parents and not just Asian ones – and it is a big deal to them. Obviously, there are other awards and some are more or less important..

          2. M. Purdy Avatar

            Well, hopefully they get this rectified in the future for those parents and students. I don’t, however, think an investigation is necessary.

          3. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            Well, sweeping it under the rug isn’t acceptable to the parents who think this was potentially criminal.

    2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      Thanks for the explanation. Of course, the administration can’t be bothered with details and nuance.

      I don’t understand why the school administrations did not notify the students. Principals and superintendents need to realize that they are under a microscope and conservatives will seize upon anything.

      I am happy to learn that this issue involves school districts in addition to Fairfax. That should quiet all the folks on this blog and the administration that want to make Fairfax a whipping boy. Also, the involvement of other jurisdictions makes it even clearer that this is not a civil rights issue and never was.

      Finally, a quote from one of the links provided by the author: “experts and students agree the investigation is looking into an issue with little to no impact on students’ futures.”

      1. Warmac9999 Avatar
        Warmac9999

        Actually, the fact that a lot of school districts withheld this information makes claims about a systemic ESG problem quite a bit more relevant. Apparently, the entirety of the Virginia Public Education System has been corrupted by progressive stupidity.

        1. Warmac9999 Avatar
          Warmac9999

          There is a difference between made available and promoted by. Apparently, promoted by was verboten.

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            You know there is a portal committed just to this on the NMSQT website, don’t you…?? I get you think the Commended students should have been more celebrated but the fact is they always get overshadowed by the Semi-finalists and Finalists. But, hey nice job pitting parents against teachers and principals… you must be proud!!

    3. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      People can and and do get admitted based on the PSAT alone, which is highly predictive of the final SAT. You are correct that the colleges know what the cut scores are, but again, as I said, many of the outside groups that fund scholarships won’t. It is not just about scholarships the colleges control. And it is also about this whole attitude of “we can’t let anybody stand out less somebody feels left out.” THAT was the reason for all this.

      1. VaPragamtist Avatar
        VaPragamtist

        “People can and and do get admitted based on the PSAT alone”

        That’s the first time I’ve heard that claim. Results from a preliminary Google search all say that the PSAT doesn’t count toward admissions.

        Can you provide any more context or sources?

        1. Warmac9999 Avatar
          Warmac9999

          Nothing prevents a kid and his or her parents from providing info well in advance to a school for consideration. Happens in sports all the time.

      2. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Not likely since the College Boards don’t send them to colleges, see above post.

        Well, maybe the Close-Cover-Before-Striking School of Theology and Heavy Equipment Operation accepts PSATs. So you might be right.

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          My PSAT score caused my mailbox to fill up with college mailers referencing it. That was more than 50 years ago….

          1. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            Hey, it still happens today.

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Yes, but your HS had nothing to do with that.

            More than likely, since privacy wasn’t the issue it is today, the college boards were selling you like bitcoin. To a college then, a high scorer on the PSAT was the equivalent of an SSN, DoB, and a mother’s maiden name to an identity thief today.

            “If you can’t figure out what the product is, it’s you.”

          3. VaPragamtist Avatar
            VaPragamtist

            But can you provide more evidence to support your claim that “People can and and do get admitted based on the PSAT alone”?

      3. Warmac9999 Avatar
        Warmac9999

        Equity kills excellence, and that is what the left intends it to do.

    4. Warmac9999 Avatar
      Warmac9999

      Not everything is automated that matters.

    5. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Terrific explanation and pin in the hyperbole balloon.

  8. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Uh yep, and with the commendation and $2.50 a cup of coffee can be had. Well, 7-11, not Starbucks.

    Participation trophies, remember your position.

    Last I checked, these were PSAT, not SAT, not LSAT, or GRE. Also, last I checked, your scores on the SAT were sent to the colleges to which you applied by the testing service (some group in NJ), and not as a part of your HS Permanent Record.

    Of course that was in 1970, and you got 3 free and had to pay for additional. There is no way those testing services are going to dump revenues by allowing them to be included in HS transcripts.

    Then, there’s this…
    “ Colleges Don’t Receive Scores

    College Board does not send PSAT/NMSQT scores to colleges.
    These scores are not intended to be part of college admission decisions. They should not be included on student transcripts that will be reproduced and sent to colleges unless the student (if 18 or older) or their parent/guardian has granted permission.
    You’re allowed to withhold scores from college admission and athletic offices, even when colleges ask for them.”

    https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/psat-nmsqt/scores/understanding-scores/who-will-see-my-score

    1. Warmac9999 Avatar
      Warmac9999

      And you are also allowed to provide preliminary information if you have it.

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