Democracy Dies in Fake Quotes

by Kerry Dougherty

There are no words for the disgust I feel for The Washington Post right now.

Oh, it’s been listing left for years, eagerly reporting negative news about conservatives and their causes, while offering tongue baths to liberals.

But printing fabricated quotes to damage the president? That’s a new low.

Now we KNOW The Post printed lies about President Trump. And waited more than two months to correct them. Long after the damage was done.

How do we know it? The Post admitted it.

Remember the second impeachment of Donald Trump? Remember some of what was alleged? That he meddled in the Georgia elections, that he ordered officials there to “find the fraud” for him down there, that he promised an investigator that she’d be a “national hero” if she found the votes?

Here’s an inexcusably belated correction to that Washington Post scoop:

Correction: Two months after publication of this story, the Georgia secretary of state released an audio recording of President Donald Trump’s December phone call with the state’s top elections investigator. The recording revealed that The Post misquoted Trump’s comments on the call, based on information provided by a source. Trump did not tell the investigator to “find the fraud” or say she would be “a national hero” if she did so. Instead, Trump urged the investigator to scrutinize ballots in Fulton County, Ga., asserting she would find “dishonesty” there. He also told her that she had “the most important job in the country right now.” A story about the recording can be found here. The headline and text of this story have been corrected to remove quotes misattributed to Trump.

How convenient. Months after he’s out of office and impeached for the second time, the Post offers a correction, with a new dateline and scrubs the fake quotes out of the archived stories and headlines.

Orwellian.

There’s a huge difference between urging an official to pay close attention to a certain jurisdiction where there was likely election fraud and ordering him or her to “find the fraud” which implied it should be conjured if it wasn’t there.

This is what happens when news outlets are so consumed with loathing for a politician that they abandon their own rules against relying on unnamed sources in order to damage him or her.

I don’t want to hear from Post apologists and Never Trumpers who insist that the gist of this story was accurate or that Trump’s December 23rd phone call was improper or that he deserved doctored quotes due to his mean Tweets.

That’s not the issue.

These were inflammatory quotes that appeared in headlines in many news outlets and were quoted widely during the impeachment proceedings and they were not true.

Frankly, the most basic rule of honest reporting is this: You never put quotation marks around statements you didn’t hear. If only The Post had followed this simple guideline for good journalism.

This is reporting 101. Reporters are meticulous about getting quotes right. They review their notes and examine quotes word-for-word to ensure accuracy, even when they contain grammatical errors or curse words.

It’s unethical and just plain wrong to put quotation marks around second-hand information.

Then again, The Post — once a national newspaper that prided itself on maintaining the highest level of integrity — was on a mission: To take down the president.

Back in the 1970s The Post did that with relentless reporting. This time they did it with fake quotes.

Any wonder so many don’t trust the mainstream media?

This column is republished with permission from Kerry: Unemployed & Unedited.


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58 responses to “Democracy Dies in Fake Quotes”

  1. “Find the fraud” — ironic headline. The story was the fraud. The Washington Post was the fraud.

    This is beyond disturbing. I’ll have to reappraise my thinking. I’ve frequently accused the Post of cherry picking the facts that fit its narrative. But I’d always assumed that Post editors and reporters were diligent about checking those facts. In other words, the facts might be cherrypicked, but at least they were accurate.

    Now we have to question even that assumption — especially if the information is attributed to an unnamed source.

    The story in question focused on Georgia, but what it says about the Post’s journalistic standards casts a pall of everything written in Virginia. The Post has the largest circulation in Virginia of any newspaper, and its influence — among Democrats especially — exceeds its circulation.

    I wonder if Twitter, Facebook, or Google will move to de-platform the Post. Ha! What an absurd thought. De-platforming runs one way only.

    1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      I recall you making a shoddy journalism error recently as well and publicly retracting the piece (sort of) in a similar manner. What I don’t recall was anybody saying you committed “fraud” in response.

      1. Yes, my use of the word “fraud” was hyperbolic — it was a response to the Washington Post’s use of the word fraud in its headline, “Find the Fraud.” Was the story a case of literal fraud? Of course not. But it was fraudulent in the metaphorical sense of intellectual fraud.

        The errors that I quickly retracted were due to carelessness and haste. That’s no excuse for making the errors, to which I readily admit. I need to be more careful in the future. But my mistakes were not the result of careful deliberation as the Washington Post surely engaged in when its reporters and editors assessed what level of veracity to assign its unnamed source — and to withhold the identity of that source, who, we now know, clearly had a partisan bias. Ideally, the WaPo would engage in some introspection in the wake of such a monument error. But there is no evidence of such self-reflection.

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          Once again, James, thank you for owning up on both accounts. I actually take no issue with the rest of your comment. The WP is well staffed and should clearly know better. Perhaps they were more interested in clicks than in practicing good journalism…

      2. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        So that would make the 4th iteration of a tu quoque fallacy used on this article. The common dominator being the posters whom employed all share the same ideology.

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          Actually not… not that it matters. I am drawing a distinction between responses (JAB says it constitutes “fraud”, BR readers did not). I am arguing that JAB was hyperbolic in his attack on the WP not arguing JABs hypocrisy. A tu quoque would be like “you have made the same mistake so you can’t judge others”. Read again, that is not what I said…. but Jesus did, of course…

          A shame I had to spend valuable time explaining this to you. Maybe if you thought before you posted… but alas…

          1. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            No, no you are not. You’re using a tu quoque fallacy.

            “Tu quoque (/tjuːˈkwoʊkwi, tuːˈkwoʊkweɪ/; Latin Tū quoque, for “you also”), or the appeal to hypocrisy, is an informal fallacy that intends to discredit the opponent’s argument by attacking the opponent’s own personal behavior as being inconsistent with the argument’s conclusion(s)

            “A shame I had to spend valuable time explaining this to you. Maybe if you thought before you posted… but alas…”

            You’ve again found yourself completely out in left field regarding fallacies. Which is probably why you employ them in your arguments, rather than using actual logic. You’ve explained nothing outside of your own lack of understanding.

            “A shame I had to spend valuable time explaining this to you. Maybe if you thought before you posted… but alas…”

            The Post used a fabricated quote, Mr. Bacon drew a conclusion not based in evidence and corrected it.

          2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Again, I am not discussing the hypocrisy of JAB’s personal behavior, I am criticizing his mischaracterization of the WP piece as “fraud”. I am pointing to the fact that no one (notice other’s actions not JAB’s) characterized his mistake as fraud as evidence that his characterization is incorrect.

            Really, your reading comprehension is abysmal.

            Now, you wish to argue to my point (which I thought you said was fallacious…!!). You are incorrect again. As pointed out in this thread, the WP made the mistake of printing hearsay as a direct quote, sloppy journalism but not “fabricated” or “fraud”. JAB ran with a story and reported it as fact before the facts were known, sloppy journalism but again not “fraud”. In his zeal to vilify fellow journalists, he went for the unseemly “fraud” response in his response to the WP piece unlike how he was treated when the shoe was on the other foot. Not sure why, maybe it’s better for his advertisers…

          3. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Again, that is exactly what you did.

            The Washington Post fabricated a quote, they didn’t just misquote. They fabricated words.

            “Really, your reading comprehension is abysmal.”

            There is most certainly one thing that is abysmal here and it’s your misuses of fallacies.

            That’s not what the post stated at all.

            “In sum: The Washington Post anonymously printed fabricated quotes they knew were from a second-hand source in the office of a political enemy, couldn’t confirm the quotes with additional sourcing, still attributed them to the sitting president of the United States, used those quotes as a basis to speculate the president committed a crime, and the Democratic party would later repeatedly cite the bogus article when attempting to impeach Trump for “high crimes and misdemeanors.”

            But wait! It gets much worse. Several other major media outlets — including NBC, ABC, USA Today, PBS, and CNN — “confirmed” the fabricated quotes from the Post’s anonymous source by, get this, citing their own anonymous sources.”

            https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/16/washington-post-accuses-trump-of-a-crime-based-on-fabricated-quotes/#.YFClqPFbsxA.twitter

            JAB ran a story and misattributed the causes, he didn’t fabricate anything.

            Again, you finish your comment invoking a tu quoque fallacy. Perhaps you should do the following before commenting. Write your comment, read it and it you find in it’s contents attacks on whom you’re posting about delete it and try again. It’s not just highly probable you’re using fallacies, it’s for certain you are.

          4. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Listen, Sport, I know this is nuanced and therefore hard for you to grasp but this is a tu quoque:

            “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”

            What I am saying is why did JAB mischaracterize the WP actions as “fraud” when no one else (notice the shift here, Ace) made that characterization about him?

            The one is “you have done the same, don’t be a hypocrite”, the other is “treat others as you wish to be treated (or have been treated in this case)”.

            But if you want to opt for highlighting four comments which document Conservative hypocrisy, I’m good with that as well.

          5. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            I’m so thrilled that you can quote Jesus.

            However, that doesn’t negate that I gave you the definition of the very fallacy you’re employing. You can also drop the condescension, it’s unwarranted and uncalled for.

            “But if you want to opt for highlighting four comments which document Conservative hypocrisy, I’m good with that as well.”

            Clearly you don’t have a solid grasp at all.

          6. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Reiterating your error does not make you suddenly correct.

          7. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “Eric the half a troll 15 hours ago
            Reiterating your error does not make you suddenly correct.”

            Minus I didn’t make the error, you have and you fail to understand the most basic logical fallacy.

            Clearly, you can’t seem to comprehend the logical fallacy in play which is why you’ve given to condescension in your retorts. Tu quoque doesn’t rely on hypocrisy alone. I would find this amusing if it weren’t for the sheer abundance of your liking and do the same elsewhere, that just makes it sad.

          8. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “Eric the half a troll 15 hours ago
            Reiterating your error does not make you suddenly correct.”

            Minus I didn’t make the error, you have and you fail to understand the most basic logical fallacy.

            Clearly, you can’t seem to comprehend the logical fallacy in play which is why you’ve given to condescension in your retorts. Tu quoque doesn’t rely on hypocrisy alone. I would find this amusing if it weren’t for the sheer abundance of your liking and do the same elsewhere, that just makes it sad.

  2. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Another day, another WaPo bash at Bacon’s Rebellion. If it’s not Georgia, it’s VMI. Or Northam. Or climate change. Or the Virginia Mercury. To provide some needed perspective, I remind you that Donald Trump was caught in what? Thirty thousand lies? I hate to see BR grow into a right wing reactionary screed. BTW, the Associated Press ran a similar correction. At least they admitted their mistakes and corrected them. I don’t recall Trump ever admitting anything.

  3. Peter Galuszka Avatar
    Peter Galuszka

    Another day, another WaPo bash at Bacon’s Rebellion. If it’s not Georgia, it’s VMI. Or Northam. Or climate change. Or the Virginia Mercury. To provide some needed perspective, I remind you that Donald Trump was caught in what? Thirty thousand lies? I hate to see BR grow into a right wing reactionary screed. BTW, the Associated Press ran a similar correction. At least they admitted their mistakes and corrected them. I don’t recall Trump ever admitting anything.

    1. “Donald Trump was caught in what? Thirty thousand lies?”
      Seems to me the Orange Menace was bad enough that WaPo shouldn’t need to manufacture quotes.

    2. How many of those Trump “lies” were added up by lying liars who told lies of their own?

      Trump had no regard for the truth. Neither did those who “reported” on him. Washington is a cesspool of lies.

    3. “I remind you that Donald Trump was caught in what? Thirty thousand lies?”

      How many of them were first reported by the Washington Post based on a single source?

      😉

    4. “I remind you that Donald Trump was caught in what? Thirty thousand lies?”

      How many of them were first reported by the Washington Post based on a single source?

      😉

    5. “Donald Trump was caught in what? Thirty thousand lies?”
      Seems to me the Orange Menace was bad enough that WaPo shouldn’t need to manufacture quotes.

    6. Matt Adams Avatar
      Matt Adams

      The 2nd use of a tu quoque fallacy on this article. It is also to provide perspective, but rather to explain away the Washington Posts behavior.

      It’s also very much hyperbole that you make the following statement “I hate to see BR grow into a right wing reactionary screed.”.

      Edited: to properly identify the order in which this fallacy was used to explain away behavior.

    7. John Harvie Avatar
      John Harvie

      Peter I’m not defending Trump here just questioning this 30,000 lies thing. Let’s try, shall we? Lets just use a little arithmetic.

      You can modify this little exercise any way you like but just hear me out. Let’s say Trump started running some time a year before being elected so I’m taking part of that campaigning year and about 365 days a year in office, a total of 1500+. Divide that by 30,000 and you get 19 documented lies every single day every day for those days! Use your own numbers and see if it still passes the smell test.

      Documented! Every single one of them! Fully validated! Wow! Somewhere there must be a list of them. Can’t let something a damning as this go unpublished can we?

      Some folks collectively had a lot of time on their hands. Pick any time unit you like for fully documenting a single lie and multiply by 30,000. Still seem reasonable?

      1. The WaPo reported on those 30,000 ‘lies’. But disbanded its truth squad this past ‘Biden Admin Day 2’.

    8. How many of those Trump “lies” were added up by lying liars who told lies of their own?

      Trump had no regard for the truth. Neither did those who “reported” on him. Washington is a cesspool of lies.

      1. hisnibs Avatar

        As seen from the distance. Nothing here but chasing the others.

    9. “I remind you that Donald Trump was caught in what? Thirty thousand lies?”

      How many of them were first reported by the Washington Post based on a single source?

      😉

  4. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    Okay , so WaPo did screw up AND they did admit it but how many other media reported how many other legally and morally questionable contacts that Trump DID MAKE?

    How many times as the “right” media just bald-faced lied, made things up, openly promoted easily-discredided conspiracy theories, misinformation, disinformation?

    No, we’re not doing pot kettle black here but as bad as the left media has been, and they have at times, right “right” media is in a totally different class that is almost NEVER called out here in BR… it’s like it never happened!

  5. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    This could be explained by the change in the executive editor position. Baron is out and Ryan is now in.

  6. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    This could be explained by the change in the executive editor position. Baron is out and Ryan is now in.

  7. Publius Avatar

    It is not a “right wing” thing to believe that truth matters. Fine Trump has 30,000 lies… apply the same standards to the TOTUS/FLOTUS (Teleprompter or Fraudulent Leader of the US, take your pick).

    Journalism once supposedly had standards – if your Mom tells you she loves you, check it out.

    Isn’t it “interesting” that all the errors seem to run the same way? How does even a watered down Inspector General report find/admit to 37 FISA breaches of process, all against Donald Trump’s interests in pursuit of a fake story. That our illustrious Senator/Empty Suit Mark Warner lied about as a member of Intelligence? Ho-hum…nothing to see…
    Call a coin flip 37 times in a row. Can you even in one day make it to 6 times getting it right? How about 10 times? 15? (15 is 1 in 32,768…but who’s counting?)

  8. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    My question entails the runoff elections in Georgia that followed the presidential election. Was the Post’s misquote in advance of those elections? If so, I could imagine some Georgia voters being sufficiently angry that Trump was meddling in Georgia’s affairs that they either changed their minds or came out to vote in the runoff when they would have otherwise stayed home. Was this deliberate election manipulation?

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Based on the publication date,
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-transcript-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/2768e0cc-4ddd-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html

      the recording and transcript were available two days before the runoff election.

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Based on the publication date,
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-transcript-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/2768e0cc-4ddd-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html

      the recording and transcript were available two days before the runoff election.

  9. Becket Adams with the Washington Examiner argues that the scandal is bigger than the Washington Post.

    If you can believe it, the Washington Post bungling its “bombshell” report isn’t the most scandalous thing about this episode in media malfeasance. No, the most scandalous thing is: Several newsrooms claimed they independently “confirmed” the most damning details of the Washington Post’s since-corrected “scoop.”

    NBC News reported it “confirmed The Post’s characterization of the Dec. 23 call through a source familiar with the conversation.”

    USA Today claimed a “Georgia official speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal matters confirmed the details of the call.”

    ABC News reported: “President Donald Trump phoned a chief investigator in Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger’s office asking the official to ‘find the fraud’ and telling this person they would be a ‘national hero’ for it, an individual familiar with the matter confirmed to ABC News.”

    PBS NewsHour and CNN likewise seemingly claimed they independently “confirmed” the story through their own anonymous sources.

    But in their arrogance, these same outlets accuse conservatives of peddling “misinformation.” Will this episode lead to any introspection or analysis of what went so wrong? Don’t count on it.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Since Drudge and Newsmax, do any of them use 2 independent sources anymore?

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Since Drudge and Newsmax, do any of them use 2 independent sources anymore?

  10. Becket Adams with the Washington Examiner argues that the scandal is bigger than the Washington Post.

    If you can believe it, the Washington Post bungling its “bombshell” report isn’t the most scandalous thing about this episode in media malfeasance. No, the most scandalous thing is: Several newsrooms claimed they independently “confirmed” the most damning details of the Washington Post’s since-corrected “scoop.”

    NBC News reported it “confirmed The Post’s characterization of the Dec. 23 call through a source familiar with the conversation.”

    USA Today claimed a “Georgia official speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal matters confirmed the details of the call.”

    ABC News reported: “President Donald Trump phoned a chief investigator in Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger’s office asking the official to ‘find the fraud’ and telling this person they would be a ‘national hero’ for it, an individual familiar with the matter confirmed to ABC News.”

    PBS NewsHour and CNN likewise seemingly claimed they independently “confirmed” the story through their own anonymous sources.

    But in their arrogance, these same outlets accuse conservatives of peddling “misinformation.” Will this episode lead to any introspection or analysis of what went so wrong? Don’t count on it.

  11. William O'Keefe Avatar
    William O’Keefe

    What about the call to the Georgia Secretary of State asking him to find 11000 ballots. Your defense of Trump doesn’t make the sale.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-transcript-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/2768e0cc-4ddd-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html

      She jumps on the mistake among the 100s of times Trump attempted to illicit a criminal act.

      As to Kerry, it’s not like she never omitted a fact… she can be a real pit bull.

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-transcript-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/2768e0cc-4ddd-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html

      She jumps on the mistake among the 100s of times Trump attempted to illicit a criminal act.

      As to Kerry, it’s not like she never omitted a fact… she can be a real pit bull.

  12. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Unemployed, unedited, and mostly unread. The fact that Republicans felt compelled to record conversations with the Grifter in Chief says all you need to know.

    That the WaPo published a story based on the source’s description of the call is what the media does. Don’t suppose you have the same disgust with Maria Bartiromo, eh?

    1. Matt Adams Avatar
      Matt Adams

      The 1st example of a tu quoque fallacy on this article.

      Edited: to properly identify the order in which this fallacy was used to explain away behavior.

  13. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    Okay , so WaPo did screw up AND they did admit it but how many other media reported how many other legally and morally questionable contacts that Trump DID MAKE?

    How many times as the “right” media just bald-faced lied, made things up, openly promoted easily-discredided conspiracy theories, misinformation, disinformation?

    No, we’re not doing pot kettle black here but as bad as the left media has been, and they have at times, right “right” media is in a totally different class that is almost NEVER called out here in BR… it’s like it never happened!

    1. Matt Adams Avatar
      Matt Adams

      The 3rd example of a tu quoque fallacy being used on the same article.

      Edited: to properly identify the order in which this fallacy was used to explain away behavior.

  14. Publius Avatar

    It is not a “right wing” thing to believe that truth matters. Fine Trump has 30,000 lies… apply the same standards to the TOTUS/FLOTUS (Teleprompter or Fraudulent Leader of the US, take your pick).

    Journalism once supposedly had standards – if your Mom tells you she loves you, check it out.

    Isn’t it “interesting” that all the errors seem to run the same way? How does even a watered down Inspector General report find/admit to 37 FISA breaches of process, all against Donald Trump’s interests in pursuit of a fake story. That our illustrious Senator/Empty Suit Mark Warner lied about as a member of Intelligence? Ho-hum…nothing to see…
    Call a coin flip 37 times in a row. Can you even in one day make it to 6 times getting it right? How about 10 times? 15? (15 is 1 in 32,768…but who’s counting?)

    1. hisnibs Avatar

      Wobble wobble

  15. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Y’all do know that you can listen to the whole phone call between Trump and the GA SecState, right?

  16. tmtfairfax Avatar
    tmtfairfax

    Let’s see. The Post is the national media outlet that failed to find and report on Northam’s blackface “antics” before he was elected Lt. Governor and then again before he was elected Governor.

    What puzzles me is why Bezos, who has put major efforts into making Amazon a high quality source of goods and services, allows the Post to remain a paper/website without ethics. Have high-level Post managers blackmailed the owner?

    1. John Harvie Avatar
      John Harvie

      Zuckerberg?

  17. tmtfairfax Avatar
    tmtfairfax

    Let’s see. The Post is the national media outlet that failed to find and report on Northam’s blackface “antics” before he was elected Lt. Governor and then again before he was elected Governor.

    What puzzles me is why Bezos, who has put major efforts into making Amazon a high quality source of goods and services, allows the Post to remain a paper/website without ethics. Have high-level Post managers blackmailed the owner?

  18. Peripherally related anecdote (and unsolicited English lesson for today):

    Mr. Dougherty opened her article with: “There are no words for the disgust I feel for The Washington Post right now.”

    Hyperbole notwithstanding, it reminded me of a lesson I learned from my 12th grade high school English teacher regarding the use of language. In a news story I had written as a class exercise, I had included the sentence “Words cannot describe the horror felt by those who witnessed the crime”. Mrs. Payne circled the phrase “words cannot describe” and wrote “Yes they can! It is your job to find them” in the margin.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Did you find them? Did you look in the margin?

      “I have a truly marvelous demonstration of this proposition which this margin is too narrow to contain.”

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Did you find them? Did you look in the margin?

      “I have a truly marvelous demonstration of this proposition which this margin is too narrow to contain.”

  19. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Y’all do know that you can listen to the whole phone call between Trump and the GA SecState, right?

  20. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    There is more than sufficient evidence in the hour long conversation with GA officials to conclude that Trump was fishing for accomplices to engage in vote rigging whether that single quote stands or not.

    Another word for collude is conspire.

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