Curb Weight and Taxes

While we’re on the subject of the Vehicle Miles Driven tax (see previous post), I would add one modification: Drivers should pay for road maintenance not only on the basis of how many miles they drive but their vehicle’s weight.

Why should the owner of a Mini Cooper (2,679 pounds curb weight) pay the same as the owner of an H3 Hummer (4,700 pounds curb weight)? With only 57 percent of a Hummer’s heft, the Mini Cooper contributes correspondingly less to the degradation of streets and roads. If the car creates fewer potholes, its owner should pay a lower road maintence fee.

One more thought: Some cars emit more pollution than others. Automobile pollution imposes costs on society, particularly through an increase in low-level ozone and nitrogen deposition in rivers, streams and waterways. (Among the automobile’s sins, include carbon dioxide emissions, implicated in global warming, if you want to.) One way to encourage people to operate low-pollution vehicles would be to add a “pollution tax” based on Vehicle Miles Driven, as adjusted by pollution emissions. Revenues from that tax could be used to fund programs to offset, or otherwise clean up, the pollution. Of course, such a fund would have to be set up in a way to ensure that politicians couldn’t raid it for other purposes.

To assess how such a funding mechanism would impact Virginians geographically, visit http://www.autochoice.org/ and type in your zip code. There, you’ll see that in Virginia’s 7th Congressional District, where I live, 53 percent of the vehicles are light trucks and SUVs. By contrast, in the 8th district, which includes Arlington, only 42 percent of the vehicles are light trucks.

My region of the state would get hit harder, but I can’t let that stand in the way of an economically rational system of road funding. (For the record, my family owns one car and one SUV.) Most people, I believe, would be willing to accept a system that operates according to the objectice principles that I have laid out. If they don’t, it’s only because politicians have convinced them that “government” can somehow spend more money on roads and that “someone else” will pay for it. Eventually, though, even the dimmest bulb will figure out that “someone else” is, in fact, them.

(Hat check to the blogger Groveton to pointing me to the Autochoice.org website.)


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9 responses to “Curb Weight and Taxes”

  1. Larry Gross Avatar
    Larry Gross

    Many polls agree with the premise that most folks are willing to pay their pro-rata share… and I agree with JB.. the “dim bulbs” are not restricted to autos with their viewpoint that “others” should pay.

    But I don’t think people are going to agree with the “government” .._installed” in the car.

    and I want to let folks know the state of of the art in technology with regard to license plates.

    The technology to “read” license plates exists already. It is used in red-light cameras and within the past year.. has been put into use on TOLL roads not only to “capture” violators plates, but, in fact, for toll collection.

    In fact, there are planned TOLL roads in the works right now that will be “cashless” and all users will be billed via their plates.

    as we all know… much information is already collected when you get your plates.. including the gross vehicle weight…brand/model (which also includes EPA gas and pollution data), etc.

    … so.. there are a range of possible ways to do this – already -with existing technologies but I still don’t think people are going to agree with the state putting a GPS unit inside of each car.

    .. they’ll probably go along with the license-plate reading and an inspection station person writing down the odometer mileage.. as is currently done already…

    but putting that GPS unit with a label on it that say’s “property of the State of Virgina; Tampering with this unit is illegal”…

    anyone else see this as a problem?

  2. Anonymous Avatar

    Oh for crying out loud. You want to base the charge on 1) distance traveled and 2) vehicle weight. How in any way does this differ from the current motor fuels tax? Those two variables explain about 98 percent of how much gas you buy.

    And isn’t that a whole lot better way to raise the money than to give Big Brother a way to record your movements?

    Seriously — what is the difference? (Other than a weak effor to fool the voters.)

  3. Jim Bacon Avatar

    Anonymous 10:12, the problem is that the gasoline tax is not a sustainable source of revenues over the long term. More and more people are buying hybrid vehicles. City cars and buses are running on propane. The federal government is investing heavily in fuel-cell technology to replace internal combustion engines. Electric vehicles are poised to make a comeback. In 20 years, the gasoline tax will be history. Virginia should anticipate the tax’s inevitable demise and start finding something to replace it.

  4. Anonymous Avatar

    In the short term it still makes the most sense to raise the motor fuels tax and we need to keep its economic true cost adjusted for the real costs of running the road network.

    The internal combustion engine and hydrocarbon fuels will be alive and well in 20 years, but of course the market is changing and they will be reduced as an overall precentage (but I’ll get its still pretty high).

    Propane and hydrogen are still pumped into a tank and can be taxed just as easily as gasoline, with the rate adjusted to collect comparable amounts based on VMT/Weight.

    Right now we want the market to encourage the use of hybrids. A higher gas tax provides a stronger incentive.

    Figuring out a way to tax the electric plug-ins would probably require a meter in the garage, which wouldn’t be that expensive to arrange.

    I’m not crazy about the level of information I’m giving away with my smart tag now and I really don’t like the idea of a worldwide network tracking a world wide population. And you are the one who rightly wants to see weight and efficiency play in. Charging a flat VMT fee provides no incentive to conserve. The Hummer pays the same as the Honda.

    Its just political incorrect to talk about the gas tax. You end up like Dr. Michaels, just a different crowd is on your six.

  5. Anonymous Avatar

    I think Anonymous is right, and Bacon is wrong on this.

    We can make a fuels/energy tax work if we choose to, and it beats the hell out of the alternative.

    How long do you think it will be before some hacker figures out how to steal your vehicle miles driven ID? If you think getting redress for identity theft is bad from private enterprise, just wait till you have the government dunning you for something you didn’t do.

    RH

  6. Jim Bacon Avatar

    GPS is only one way to measure Vehicle Miles Driven. Another way is to read the odometer during every state inspection. I’m sure there are other alternatives. Don’t get hung up on the privacy issues. If they can’t be dealt with through IT security, then use a different technique to track VMD.

  7. Larry Gross Avatar
    Larry Gross

    I tend to agree.

    IT security and privacy problems ARE real.. but no more so than other examples.

    For instance, some folks get all whatjicated about using their credit card online but then give out their credit card number on the phone – even a cell phone (which is essentially a radio broadcast), or they’ll give it to a waiter,

    ….. or they’ll gladly swipe it through a card-reader at WalMart – that takes those numbers to the same exact computers than take the online numbers…

    we need to keep some perspective

    things that sound like.. “it won’t work because we cannot trust technology” … have a familiar ring… heard for generations…

    but I do think.. if you give folks the option of using transponders or license plates to pay tolls verses having a government device planted in their vehicle..

    .. well.. I just don’t think folks are going to be comfortable with the idea that the government has a “tracking device” .. onboard…

    ..even though I’ll fully admit.. that by using transponders, cameras (and even your credit card transactions and cell phone conversations) .. that the government can “track” you… especially if you are thought to be a “bad guy”.

  8. Anonymous Avatar

    Many, many years ago I heard an FBI official give a speech, and when asked what one thing we could do to control crime and terrorism, he replied we could eliminate cash. With the ability to track all financial transacations, the cops would have all the power they needed.

    I think of that when I see those VISA ads on TV mocking those of us who still cling to a pocket full of greenbacks. And I think of that when the government wants a transponder on my car — SURE its just about the money. OF COURSE I trust them to keep the data private. Morons who believe that don’t deserve liberty.

    One reason I used to call myself a Republican is that the people who ran that party had some respect for privacy and worried about the power of Big Brother. Not any more. Now they run a Soviet style gulag and Stalin and Hitler are laughing in Hell. And I’m not talking about Guantanamo.

    No, this idea needs to be spiked and spiked hard. The privacy concerns are not that easily dismissed.

  9. Reid Greenmun Avatar
    Reid Greenmun

    Should passengers on buses pay more if the weigh more?

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