Cuccinelli Gets Gas

Overview:

Controversial Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli has gas. Or, more accurately, he has a problem caused by the gas which is trapped in the coal seams under large swaths of Southwest Virginia. In 1990 Ken Cuccinelli was walking down “the lawn” at UVa to pick up his BS in Mechanical Engineering. That same year the Virginia General Assembly passed the Virginia Gas and Oil Act. For the next 20 years Ken Cuccinelli would prove to be an ambitious and successful politician while the Oil and Gas Act would prove to be yet another almost totally incompetent piece of legislation passed by an inept state legislature. On April 19 of this year the paths of Ken Cuccinelli and the Virginia Oil and Gas Act intersected. On that day, a landowner and his attorney met with one of Cuccinelli’s top deputies to discuss a new law signed by Bob McDonnell on April 13. The landowner hopes the new law will resolve a number of the more idiotic aspects of the original law. Mr. Cuccinelli seems less convinced that the new law is much better than the old law. He has complained that the new law is “too gentle”. Mr. Cuccinelli is willing to sue the federal government, he is willing to subpoena records from the University of Virginia. Let’s hope he doesn’t “chicken out” now. I’d hate to have to admit that Mr. Cuccinelli’s legal courage wanes when the targets are big companies instead of academics and the feds. How Mr. Cuccinelli handles this situation will speak volumes about his real philosophy.

Timeline: I’ve often thought that one could win a Pulitzer Prize for reporting on the buffoonery of the Virginia General Assembly. I no longer think that to be true. I know it to be true. I know it because Daniel Gilbert of the Bristol Herald has done just that. While Mr. Gilbert might not agree that the prize was awarded for reporting on buffoonery, I think he would characterize the overall situation as sad. His excellent series of articles on the matter can be found here – http://bit.ly/9XBrBo. For those without the time required to read Mr. Gilbert’s compelling prose, let me summarize:

There is a lot of natural gas trapped along with coal underneath Virginia. The mineral rights to the natural gas belong to the landowners. In 1990, the General Assembly passed a law forcing the landowners to sell their gas rights on a pre-defined pricing schedule. Some coal companies claimed that their long ago purchase of coal rights gave them the gas rights too. In 2004, the Virginia Supreme Court ruled against the coal companies saying that the sale of coal rights did not include the sale of gas rights. This required the energy companies to negotiate with the landowners. Disputes arose. Some of the disputes are widely seen as contrived. The state of Virginia has consistently refused to use its regulatory power to adjudicate these disputes. Royalty payments from disputed gas ownership claims are put into an almost unaudited escrow fund. In 2010, Terry Kilgore patroned legislation to allow the state to adjudicate gas royalty disputes. However, there is some ambiguity in the new law (surprise, surprise). Mr. Cuccinelli has been asked for an opinion as to whether the state really has the legal position to adjudicate these disputes. While his opinion is pending, Mr. Cuccinelli has stated that he thinks the 2010 law is “too gentle” – perhaps indicating that he will opine that the state still cannot adjudicate the disputes. If the state can’t or won’t adjudicate the disputes then the landowners will have to retain counsel and sue the energy companies in court. Since many landowners are of limited means, the legal action may be prohibitively expensive. Therefore, the landowners may settle for less than the disputed amount rather than go to court.

Legislation and Regulation: Some commenters on BaconsRebellion routinely call for more government regulation as something of a cure-all for many of today’s problems. I am not among those commenters. I fundamentally believe that our government, at both the federal and state level, is too dysfunctional to be given any more power. The sad situation regarding gas rights in Virginia is just one more example of an inept government in action. Twenty years after the state passed a law forcing landowners to sell their mineral rights on a pre-ordained pricing schedule the state is still unable to get many of the landowners their money. Disputes are often invented. The escrow accounts are essentially unaudited. Recent legislation is “too gentle”. However, there may be an answer. Our newly elected Attorney General has shown he has the courage to take on the status quo. Will he do the same here? Mr. Cuccinelli, we eagerly await your opinion.


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8 responses to “Cuccinelli Gets Gas”

  1. Gooze Views Avatar
    Gooze Views

    Groveton,
    I blogged on the gas issue back in December:

    http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=10010207&postID=4283012455412862276

    It is probably more an oissue for the General Assembly that for the attorney general.

    Peter Galuszka

    PS: Groveton, don't take this the wrong way, but you might want to break up the graphs in your posts to give the reader a rest. It's just too dense. Thanks.

  2. Groveton Avatar
    Groveton

    Peter:

    I remember the gas issue post now that you mention it. I am wondering whether Ken Cuccinelli will take this on or not. Kilgore's legislation was supposed to allow the Virginia Oil and Gas Board to arbitrate disputes. However, that is now being called into question. Cuccinelli likes to play the tough guy. He sues the feds without knowing whether he'll win or not. Let's see if he'll let the Virginia Oil and Gas Board make the decisions about roytalty payments even if he might lose in court.

    As for the density of the post – I agree. I have gotten used to WordPress from GrovetonsVirginia. Man, Blogger is a step backward. I tried using different color fonts but the colors reverted to black when I published the post. Ultimately, I decided to just get something out so I published what I had.

  3. Larry G Avatar
    Larry G

    I'm confused.. is Groveton calling for MORE govt involvement or less?

    does he think "regulation" is different than "direct involvement"?

    I think this issue points out exactly what happens when the govt does not get involved in these kinds of issues.

    Back in the old days.. these big companies would just hire thugs …er… "convincers" to visit said recalcitrants.

    now days.. they just use legal thuggery…with the same outcome.

    Groveton cannot seem to reconcile himself that one does not have to LOVE more govt or more regulation – to admit that there is a role and that without that role – large companies will do what they have always done when dealing with individuals.

    Govt is the people. got it?

  4. Groveton Avatar
    Groveton

    LarryG –

    The government can't cope with the power it already has. In 1990 the General Assembly passed an arguably intelligent law making it easier for energy companies to extract natural gas from under Virginia. However, the legislative incompetence of the General Assembly resulted in legislation which fundamentally screwed the landholders of Virginia. More than $25M owed to Virginia landowners sits in escrow because the General Assembly hasn't been able to pass a simple law allowing for simple and cheap adjudication of disputes. The original law was passed 20 years ago. In 2010 Terry Kilgore tried to correct this fiasco – albiet 20 years late. Now, we hear side comments by Ken Cuccinelli saying that the law making adjudication a simple matter for the state regulatory body may still not pass muster in the courts.

    HB 3202
    Abuser fees
    Confiscation of mineral rights without an affordable adjudication mechanism

    Giving more power to government is like giving a machine gun to a teenager – the best you can hope is that nothing will happen.

    Having said all that … I expect Ken Cuccinelli to take legal risks to protect the people of Virginia. I support his suit against the federal government on behalf of the people of Virginia. I expect him to take another legal risk on behalf of the people of Virginia. Namely, I expect him to produce an opinion supportive of Terry Kilgore's legislation. He may lose his suit against the federal government. He may lose in court if he supports Kilgore's legislation. There is no difference. He was elected by the people of Virginia to represent them. He was not appointed for life to interpret the law. I can only hope that his fervor in protecting Virginians from the transgressions of the federal government also carries forth to protecting Virginians from the half-witted legislation written by our General Assembly.

  5. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    I don't think more regulation or less regualation is the answer as long as what we get is fair.

    RH

  6. Mimi Stratton Avatar
    Mimi Stratton

    From A. Barton Hinkle, printed in May 7, 2010 Richmond Times-Dispatch, (With apologies to Gilbert and Sullivan):

    I Am The Very Model of A Mad Attorney General

    I am the very model of a mad Attorney General,
    My politics are paleoconservative and visceral —
    I'll sue the pants off Democrats and wreck their plans historical
    With writs and briefs that I'll compose, tendentious and rhetorical . . . .

    I'll stop environmentalists from regulating greenhouse gas
    By proving carbon dioxide does not have an atomic mass —
    That solar-radiative forcing's nothing but a liberal plot
    And dendroclimatology is superstitious tommyrot.
    I'll prove the EPA is overrun with Commie militants
    Who haven't shown a single lick of scientific diligence —
    In short, in matters legal, ecological, and federal
    I am the very model of a mad Attorney General.

    I'll stop the federales, too, from passing mandates medical —
    Our Founding Fathers would have found them utterly heretical:
    There's nothing in the Constitution that allows the government
    To take upon itself an act of such obscene aggrandizement.
    Our hospitals and clinics do not need yet more bureaucracy
    The whole scheme is most antithetical toward democracy;
    ObamaCare could mean as well a case of hip dysplasia
    Might put your grandma on a gurney, bound for euthanasia.
    The situation's reached the point that it is nearly critical —
    And so I'll sue to save the life of our corpus political.
    In short, in matters Hippocratic, curative, and medical,
    I am the very model of a mad Attorney General.

    I'll save our universities as well from filthy sodomites;
    The colleges have got no grounds to grant those fellows equal rights.
    The legislature has declared they constitute a second class —
    Though some might find that attitude as dated as Depression glass
    I do not think we need more men who know how to redecorate
    Or women dressed like lumberjacks — God meant us all to procreate.
    It's right there in Leviticus: Verse seventeen of chapter eight
    Requires colleges to let their faculties discriminate.
    I simply want to guarantee our young men's masculinity
    By keeping Sapphic types far from the commonwealth's vicinity
    In short, in matters non-Euclidian or homosexual
    I am the very model of a mad Attorney General.

    I also like to think myself a rather high-browed classisist
    And artifacts of history are something I cannot resist
    But images of Virtue that expose her breast and mamelon
    Are too risqué — they're apt to turn the concupiscent rabble on.
    There's nothing more erotic than the Iliad or the Odyssey
    And so I'll substitute a pin that manifests more modesty
    (One mustn't risk the chance that some poor lad's Attic exuberance
    Could lend itself to lusty thoughts and some turgid protuberance).
    I'm simply trying to keep things clean, I don't believe in censorship —
    But won't go down in history as the man who let a nipple slip.
    In short in matters glandular, lactiferous, and sensual
    I am the very model of a mad Attorney General.

  7. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    We welcome your views, Groveton. But…

    We will ask you the same question that Mr. Gooze continues to ignor:

    What to you propose to do about the current state of affairs — and unsustainable economic, social and physical trajectory?

    What is your solution?

    On The Cooch, there may be no solution except for for years of embarassing defeats.

    But what about the Euro rescue of the nation-states you have reminded us are called PIGS?

    How can the Euro Zone nation-states uphold their social contract with their citizens and cut programs?

    How can the nation-states of NAFTA meets their oblications and not raise taxs and fees?

    Observer

  8. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    "What to you propose to do about ….. unsustainable economic, social and physical trajectory? "

    I propose to ignore your premise as unproven.

    Suppose your premise is correct.

    Either we can shut down unsustainable society through some kind of massive central authority, or it will collapse of its own volition in due time.

    The first possibility will cost a lot of money and have to start soon due to enormous planning requirements.

    The second option will happen suddenly [eventually], with no advance planning and little cost.

    The end result is similar in either case, fewer people living with more stuff per person, but not as much total stuff as before, hence more sustainable for a time.

    But, in achieving this result the second option allows more people to live longer with less angst.

    The first option means we have to decide who gets to live and with how much stuff. Good luck with that.

    The eventual destruction of mankind on this planet is assured. Let's not delude ourselves with some new religion of supposed sustainability as if it was the same as immortality or omnipotence.

    RH

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