Craven UVa Board Cancels More History


by James A. Bacon

The University of Virginia Board of Visitors took another big step in purging its “white supremacist” past by voting Friday to take down the statue to George Rogers Clark. The Clark statue, critics say, perpetuates “the myth of brave white men conquering a supposedly unknown and unclaimed land.”

The cost of removing, relocating and storing the statue is estimated to cost $400,000. University officials expect the statue to be removed by the end of the summer. Then the university will start talking to students and the Indigenous community about what should replace it, reports The Daily Progress.

The removal, initially recommended by the UVa’s Racial Equity Task Force, advances the systematic extirpation of any names, memorials or statues that can be tangentially connected to “white supremacy.” The dismantling of the Clark statue is part of a larger set of recommendations to “repair relationships with Indigenous communities” by establishing a “tribal liaison position,” found a Center for Native American and Indigenous Studies, recruit Native and Indigenous faculty. And, of course, it is consistent with the denigration of anyone associated with the slave-holding era.

Clark, not to be confused with his younger brother William Clark of Lewis & Clark fame, was the highest-ranking American patriot military officer during the American Revolutionary War on the Northwestern frontier. His campaigns against the English-allied Indians weakened the British hold on what then were known as the “Northwest Territories,” located in and around Ohio. He has been known to historians as the “Conqueror of the Old Northwest,” although some say his accomplishments were exaggerated. He was accused of being drunk on duty and, later in life, was hounded by creditors.

The historical revisionists at UVa have reinterpreted the statue as a monument to White Supremacy. In an article in UVA Today, the house organ of the UVa administration, history Professor Christian McMillen didn’t criticize Clark as much as those the people who erected the statue.

With the closing of the frontier and America’s increasing urbanization, a key piece of America’s identity disappeared. When it did, a newfound interest in the country’s pioneer past emerged. At the same time, Indians had come to be considered a “vanishing race,” doomed to extinction. Fueling this notion was a proliferation of “expert” opinion regarding what they argued was the vanishingly low Native population prior to contact with Europeans – an argument used to justify denying Native peoples legal rights to land.6

Finally, the American West was reimagined as having been a wilderness, a land uninhabited and free for the taking. The American past was rewritten and Indians were erased. There was no place to recognize, for example, the “immense power” Jefferson knew the Sioux possessed over a huge swath of the Northern Plains. The West, in this new historical narrative, was empty. The statues dedicated to Lewis and Clark and George Rogers Clark reinforced this historical narrative.

The myth-building about the vanishing Indian would not only be advanced by monuments. More devastatingly, actual laws harmed Native people and exacerbated discrimination against them for decades.

McMillen then goes on to chronicle Virginia’s Racial Integrity Act, the suppression of Indian ethnic identity, and a litany of affronts against Indigenous Americans that have nothing whatsoever to do with Clark.

The history of relations between the early Americans and the Indian tribes was a complex one. Once upon a time, history was written entirely from the perspective of the White settlers, and the Indians were painted as violent savages. Indeed, the Indian way of war was savage, drawing no distinction between combatants and non-combatants and inclined to genocide. By the early 1900s, however, the myth of the brave, liberty-loving “noble savage” was taking root. And by the publication of “Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee” in 1970, popular culture was portraying Indians as largely innocent victims of rapacious Whites, as in fact they sometimes were.

But UVa’s revisionists have no interest in complexity or nuance.

The public documents referenced in the Board of Visitors website provide no justification for the statue’s removal, and the recording of the Friday meeting is not yet available on the board’s website. WVIR TV noted no discussion, adding by way of explanation only that “several activist groups and experts say [the statue] glorifies the violence against Native Americans.”

Bacon’s bottom line: I find it incomprehensible that the UVa Board of Visitors would consent to the systematic trashing of the nation’s and the university’s heritage with minimal discussion or debate. It is a good thing to add new layers of understanding of famed figures as scholarship and values evolve. But it is a cultural crime to erase them from our memory as if they had done nothing but inflict a never-ending succession of miseries upon mankind.

Here, take a look at the board members. They are all accomplished, successful people. Do they share the hatred of the founders of this country that UVa’s cultural radicals do? Or are they just pathetic, gutless specimens of humanity unwilling to stand up to the Twitter Outrage Mob?

How ironic that at the same meeting the Board approved a statement by a special committee reaffirming the principles of free expression and free speech. What a travesty! Not one of the nine board members — not one — felt free enough to express spirited opposition to the Ryan administration’s Taliban-like destruction of the past.

Note: This post was re-written to eliminate the confusion (entirely mine) between George Rogers Clark and William Clark.


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71 responses to “Craven UVa Board Cancels More History”

  1. CJBova Avatar

    Does it strike anyone else that “reaffirming the principles of free expression and free speech” coupled with “systematic trashing of the nation’s and the university’s heritage with minimal discussion” is a classic example of Doublethink?

  2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    Never did so few accomplish so much. The George Rogers Clark expedition in the Ohio River country is one of the greatest stories out of the American Revolution. With less than 200 hundred men, limited supplies, and no pay Clark was able to outmarch and outfox the British and their Indian allies. The campaign against the British pinned them back on their forts along the Great Lakes and giving Virginia the best claim march to the northwest territories. The march to Vincennes was done in melting snow, flooding rivers, and soggy bottom lands. It was said to be impossible. Cahokia and Kaskaskia were captured without one round of ammo discharged. A true frontier warrior genius who was able to hold together a disgruntled command with his personal courage and leadership.

    I don’t buy into the drunk on duty story. That incident is alleged by James Wilkenson. Wilkenson was a double agent, traitor, and known career wrecker.

    Removing the statue is another swipe at philanthropist Paul Goodloe McIntyre. He donated the Clarke statue as well as Lee, Jackson, and Lewis and Clark. UVA ought to refund the millions he gave the university back to McIntyre estate so the BOV can sleep soundly at night.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      Right. But is this another case of the statue representing something different than his success against the British?

      If the Statue was of him in battle against the British ?

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead
        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          I like it!

    2. WayneS Avatar

      “UVA ought to refund the millions he gave the university back to McIntyre estate so the BOV can sleep soundly at night.”

      Well played, sir.

  3. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Unless you go back to the first expansion of homo sapiens out of Africa, everybody stole their little patch of Earth from some previous occupants, if occupation by itself implies ownership….pretty ugly process, really. Usually involved bloodshed.

    But the Amerindian giving it back to the guy in the MAGA hat is pretty fun (and valid….)

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      Yes, but the US was supposed to be a better country – no?

      Some of us just seem to reject that “All men” crappola…

    2. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Apparently we’re not prepared to give up our idolatry. So, let’s start smaller. Let’s just teach a truer version of the annexation of Hawaii to all American schoolchildren, and the role that religious zealotry and corporate greed played, perhaps even some mention of the illegality, based on our own Constitution, of the process.

      Baby steps for baby feet.

      Then, revisit larger acquisitions and slavery. Who knows, we might even be able to understand why there is so much pressure on our southern borders resulting from military protection of banana and pineapple supplies?

      Oooh, oooh. Let’s reproduce this with a daker pigment on the faces
      https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/612LNRA4%2BaL._AC_SY450_.jpg
      and rename it “Greenwood”.

    3. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      Just to point out there is a difference between a country claiming land versus if that land is actually divided up into parcels for individual ownership.

      Just because we bought rights to the Louisiana Purchase did not mean that individuals owned that land.

      What the government did AFTER is how individuals came to own parcels.

  4. Ronnie Chappell Avatar
    Ronnie Chappell

    The problem with decisions like this is that Thomas Jefferson was a more contemptable character than George Rogers Clark. Not only did Jefferson send Clark on his mission and encourage settlement of the west, he impregnated an underage slave girl (statutory rape even if she consented and there is no evidence she did), owned more than 100 slaves, lied to the press about his relationship with Sally Hemmings, refused to acknowledge paternity of his sons, hired a man who spoke no foreign languages as an interpreter at the state department then turned him lose to savage George Washington, John Adams and Alexander Hamilton in the press, lied about it to their faces only to be caught out when a letter to a friend in Italy found its way to the American press. Martha Washington never forgave him. If the Board lacks the integrity to consign him to oblivion, they should leave others alone.

    1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      Jefferson is contemptable? Kindly refund your freedom and liberty to Independence Hall Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. On your way home pick up this little red book. Right up your alley.
      https://hwcstevenson.weebly.com/uploads/1/8/5/9/18599276/497198063.jpg?167

      1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        As Ronnie has pointed out, Martha Washington, who knew Jefferson pretty well, reportedly had this to say about him: “she spoke of the election of Mr. Jefferson, whom she considered as one
        of the most detestable of mankind, as the greatest misfortune our
        country had ever experienced.”

        1. Publius Avatar
          Publius

          They feared Jefferson’s populism and the French Revolution. Martha’s opinion does not establish Holy Writ.

        2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
          James Wyatt Whitehead

          PLEEZE

        3. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          Perhaps we should refer to Abigail Adams and her opinion on Mr. Jefferson vs. Mrs. Washington.

          As she was a dear friend that saw both his pros and cons.

    2. Publius Avatar
      Publius

      With all due respect sir, you are an idiot. Sally Hemings had 6 children. Callender started the rumors of a Jefferson/Hemings relationship in 1802. The only child with Jefferson DNA (and most likely not TJ’s) was Eston, born in 1808 while TJ was President and 65 years old. Like all humans, TJ was not perfect. Yet he was a great man. You, as you judge, what have you done for the betterment of humanity?

      1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        You should talk to the folks at Monticello and set them straight. They evidently are mistaken in saying that Sally Hemings had at least six children fathered by Thomas Jefferson. https://www.monticello.org/sallyhemings/

        1. Publius Avatar
          Publius

          The Board at Monticello in 1996 (who was President then? What was he in trouble for?) declared Jefferson the father. The science (Larry’s favorite) proved them wrong later. I think this was entirely a left wing political thing to take the pressure off of Slick Willie. Because really, preserving the right to kill unborn babies is the utmost priority in civilization…

          1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
            Dick Hall-Sizemore

            That link is from the current Monticello website. I fail to understand the reference to Clinton.

          2. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            it’s the song of the right…. these days… 😉 Rather than admit the truth or agree to facts, gotta whack on something “liberal”.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            The Board at Monticello was like some of you guys today! Denial. Denial.denial. And yes, they did not believe the science either but others did.

          4. Publius Avatar
            Publius

            Science Larry. Don’t you believe DNA?

          5. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Yep and most other, but who said this: ” With all due respect sir, you are an idiot. Sally Hemings had 6 children. Callender started the rumors of a Jefferson/Hemings relationship in 1802. The only child with Jefferson DNA (and most likely not TJ’s) was Eston, born in 1808 while TJ was President and 65 years old.”

            so what is it?

            what’s the truthl again?

          6. Publius Avatar
            Publius

            You have a point? What I said was true then, and true now. Sally Hemings had one child with Jefferson DNA. The 6th, born in 1808. TJ COULD be the father, but most people who aren’t “open-minded” Leftist idiots think he is less likely than others. But we don’t know. See, Larry? That’s how being honest works. You might want to try it some time…

          7. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            here’s honest:

            ” While there are some who disagree, the Foundation’s scholarly advisors and the larger community of academic historians who specialize in early American history have concurred for many years that the evidence is sufficiently strong to state that Thomas Jefferson fathered at least six children with Sally Hemings.”

            Monticello Affirms Thomas Jefferson Fathered Children with Sally Hemings
            A Statement by the Thomas Jefferson Foundation

            https://www.monticello.org/thomas-jefferson/jefferson-slavery/thomas-jefferson-and-sally-hemings-a-brief-account/monticello-affirms-thomas-jefferson-fathered-children-with-sally-hemings/

            I don’t understand folks like you.

          8. Publius Avatar
            Publius

            I guess it is not possible that they are wrong? Cuz Wuhan lab leak was a vicious conspiracy, amirite? And Russia stole the 2016 election, amirite?
            You can buy enough Leftists historians or Biblical scholars to say whatever you want…but science (you know, SCIENCE!) says TJ was not the father of 5 of her 6 children. And other scholars say he wasn’t the father of #6. Maybe Sally was lying? Oh, that’s right, women never lie, unless it is a Democrat…
            But Lar – are you a racist? Is there some shame to having a black child? I have black cousins…at least AncestryDNA says so…and I trust SCIENCE!

          9. Publius Avatar
            Publius

            Blue dress? Lewinsky?
            Maybe it was 1998 when they had the big announcement.
            But it is still provably false as to all of her children except the last, and that one is uncertain, but most likely not TJ’s.

        2. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          The thing that perplexes me is how some are willing to accept the facts even if they are not all wonderful while others just will not accept the facts. It’s sorta like the reaction in BR over Howard Zinns ” People’s History of the United States”.

          If the history is “bad”, – it’s wrong and/or we cannot acknowledge it.

          1. Publius Avatar
            Publius

            Hey Larry – can you acknowledge the good?
            And when you judge, will you accept the same standards to be applied to you? When you are measuring your contribution to the betterment of the world, how do you stack up?
            It is a simple impossibility with humans to have heroes who were not flawed. The thing that is most maddening is all the woke virtue signalers who wouldn’t know virtue if it hit ’em where the good Lord split ’em.
            Hubris.

    1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      Mr. Larry have you ever considered returning your Spotsylvania property to the Manohoac tribe it once belonged to? Have you ever thought about liquidating your assets and moving into a tent? You can finally come clean. Send the check here:
      Monacan Indian Nation
      111 Highview Drive
      Madison Heights, VA 24572

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        James. I have not but that does not dissuade me from knowing the facts about the issue.

        No, we cannot “fix” this but can we acknowledge the truth of it?

        Do we – all of us – owe something to the descendants of those we took the land from?

        We made promises. Did we keep them? Are those we lied to entitled to justice?

        1. Publius Avatar
          Publius

          No we don’t.
          That’s my answer.
          Maybe I should demand payment for bringing Western Civ to them?
          Everyone born in the United States needs to thank God for that benevolence.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            so they can’t keep their reservations and casinos and such?

            So the price for bringing civilization to them was to take their land?

            wow!

          2. Publius Avatar
            Publius

            It wasn’t “their” land. I can’t find the deed. You can have all the white guilt you want. Take my share. Who did they take the land from? Maybe it belongs to the animals? Maybe it all belongs to Adam and Eve… Let’s start a reparations fund and pay ourselves rich!

          3. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            oh pretty sure they took it from the animals, eh? But they’re not covered by the “all men equal” clause, no? And they were there first, no?

            Ironic, that Lewis & Clark would have died without help from Native Americans but no statues for them at UVA…except as subservient people….

          4. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            oh pretty sure they took it from the animals, eh? But they’re not covered by the “all men equal” clause, no? And they were there first, no?

            Ironic, that Lewis & Clark would have died without help from Native Americans but no statues for them at UVA…except as subservient people….

          5. Publius Avatar
            Publius

            As usual, wasting everyone’s time – Sacajawea does receive honoring. So does her French Canadian husband. You might want to read Undaunted Courage – truly an amazing thing. But Larry, why don’t we just put you in charge of everything, and you can atone for all of the white man’s sins?
            “All men are created equal” is one of the greatest statements of self governance ever written. You didn’t write it. TJ did. No matter how much you and your fellow destroyers tear him down, he is still a giant in human history.
            And drop the BS about you need to acknowledge the bad! We do. We have. UVA even has a Patrick Henry series that shows a few more warts. Wow – Jefferson was a flawed human being. Whoda thunk it? He was also not very good with finances. But we’re done buying the crap you CRT people are selling. Deal with it.

          6. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Sacajawea DOES have some monuments in several places- as herself that I have been to as I have followed the Lewis & Clark route a couple of times….and visited most of the museums dedicated to them along their route today. Yes,from St. Louis to Astoria, Ore.

            Sacajawea was “bought” and she turned out to be THE connection to
            several Native American tribes that
            supported Lewis & Clark, traded them
            horses and food, kept them from starving.

            Undaunted Courage was your typical American Hero stuff – there are many other books that deal with the tougher truth and realities in depth.

            Like – WHY did they climb the Rockies in the winter, instead of following the Yellowstone to the Snake and the Snake on around to the Columbia – the plains Native American KNEW that route!

            https://i.pinimg.com/originals/78/8f/92/788f929895e2f369eff0df30be15de03.jpg

            Sacagawea was a Lemhi Shoshone (upper Salmon/Snake) and she was associated with Snake River Plains tribes.

            So yes, a big fan of Lewis & Clark but the REAL Lewis & Clark history not the comic book stuff. Real History is better than comic book “hero” history.

          7. Publius Avatar
            Publius

            OK, Lar. Cuz you would have done it better. Without going on Rt17, could you make it to Winchester on your own?
            And while we are running down real accomplishments of flawed humans, why not run down Jack Jouett, who, by saving Jefferson and the VA delagates, allowed the evil to continue? You hate Huguenots , too, don’t you? I’m sure they did something not meeting your great morals.

          8. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            What the heck are you talking about guy?

            I hate Huguenots? WTF?

          9. Publius Avatar
            Publius

            Just being as irrational as you…
            But if Huguenot Jack Jouett hadn’t saved Jefferson from capture by Tarleton, the world would be a better place, right? Tell us the full story, Lar – why Jouett deserves to be trashed

          10. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            I still have no idea what you are blathering about… geeze louise

          11. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Sacagawea was stolen from her family by the Hidatsa people prior to being won or purchased by Toussaint.

            So is it Lewis and Clark’s fault that Native Tribes wared with one another and took slaves?

            The utter lack of historical knowledge you display daily, is mind boggling.

          12. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “Ironic, that Lewis & Clark would have died without help from Native Americans but no statues for them at UVA…except as subservient people….”

            As pointed out before Sacajawea is a Shoeshone woman from Idaho.

            She managed to be the face of US currency and has several statues of her likeness and that of her husband.

            Meriwether Lewis and William Clark were from VA.

          13. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            If it wasn’t their land – why did we negotiate for it?

          14. Packer Fan Avatar
            Packer Fan

            Didn’t the US buy much of the “stolen” land in question from France? Maybe those who say we stole it should take that up with the French govt. Oh wait, I forgot. It is the United States that brought all of the world’s evil into existence. Only country that ever had slavery, only country that ever pushed any other people off “their” land. And to think that folks from other countries are still willing to break the law to get into this horrid place.

          15. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            We did engage in MANY direct negotiations with Native Americans BEFORE and AFTER the Louisiana Purchase and outside of it.

            If France took it – we were receiving stolen property, no?

            I don’t think the US is evil – never did and never will. We are the without a doubt, the Greatest country on the face of the earth.

            But I ALSO think the truth of our history is more important than us deceiving and deluding ourselves.

            We can’t build a make-believe world to live in if we are serious about our country.

        2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
          James Wyatt Whitehead

          From the Urban Dictionary
          poser
          To pose: To pretend, to be somebody you’re not, to be part of a culture or genre just to fit in.
          Don’t be such a Thomas, you only listen to Metal because all of your “friends” do, you big poser!

    2. We have Buffalo Soldiers to thank for that cancelling… maybe UVA should erect a statue honoring those battles where the Plains Indians were killed by US Colored Troops?

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        no more and no less than other soldiers who also carried out their orders from the leaders.

        Why can’t we admit the simple truth about this?

        Buffalo Soliders were one unit of many – who carried out the orders of the countries leaders – the once who have statues for their “leadership”.

  5. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    So, could we replace the Clark monument with something like this:

    https://www.nps.gov/articles/images/823.jpg?maxwidth=650&autorotate=false

    1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
      James Wyatt Whitehead

      We could replace with this one. GEEZUS you got something against anteaters too don’ you?
      https://ggwash.org/images/posts/200912-anteaternow.jpg

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        not against anteaters and not against Sacajawea nor anyone like her or others like this guy for his truly humanitarian contributions:

        https://media.wtol.com/assets/WTOL/images/00239ba7-7736-43b9-a695-f3098e87e0ee/00239ba7-7736-43b9-a695-f3098e87e0ee_1920x1080.jpg

        A LOT BETTER than a hero statue of someone who fought to continue to enslave 4 million people:

        https://im-media.voltron.voanews.com/Drupal/01live-166/styles/sourced/s3/2019-04/96D47376-26A4-430A-8504-5B2739344ECE.jpg?itok=E97b7qVw

        1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
          James Wyatt Whitehead

          Tomorrow the state supreme court will look into this. It takes 6 to 9 weeks typically for the court to announce a ruling. Until then you are going to have deal with 13 tons of Marse Robert.
          https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/jun/06/virginia-court-to-hear-challenges-to-removal-of-ro/

  6. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Is there no end to the need to conflate history with self-adulation?

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      It sometimes boils down to WHAT history you want to remember AND that you want OTHERS to remember by putting memorials in public spaces everyone uses.

  7. WayneS Avatar

    ” Then the university will start talking to students and the Indigenous community about what should replace it, reports The Daily Progress.”

    Nothing should replace it, because chances are whatever it is they replace it with will some day be deemed “bad” or “evil” and money will need to be spent to remove it. Just leave empty space where the statue once was.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      You think some day, people will oppose a statue of Sacajawea? On what basis? Can we take this to irrational extremes? Yep.

      How about this one:

      https://americacomesalive.com/i/Seaman-1.jpg

      “WE” – most all of us can’t find anything at all that we’d agree on and remain in agreement on?

      Some day Sacajawea or a dog named Seaman will be “evil”?

      1. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        Why would UVa replace the statue of someone born in Virginia with an Native American born in Idaho?

        You’ve placed a picture of the wrong Clark, get an education.

      2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        Juvenile boys will pervert the dogs name.

      3. WayneS Avatar

        Who knows? Maybe some day we’ll learn something about her which we do not now know, but which will lead people like you to find her unworthy of a statue.

        If you want to talk a bout irrational extremes, look in the mirror – you and others of the left are the ones who want to totally redefine the legacies of historical figures. I’ve never advocated removing any existing statue of anybody.

        PS – I’d welcome a statue of Sacajawea in an historically appropriate location. Of course, I’d also welcome statues of Hunter S. Thompson or Jerry Garcia in historically appropriate locations, so…

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          re: “look in the mirror” more stupid stuff from you… take a break

          I am not at all “totally redefining” anything dude – I’m saying I understand why some people do not care for monuments that were put up by Jim Crow folks to memorialize and accord hero status of the folks they revered in fighting for the lost cause and their values even as others and descendants of others, slaves and Native American do not at all share their idolatry.

          and what the hell is ” an historically appropriate location” in the overall context of the current locations for many memorials? Do you think they are all ” in historically appropriate locations”?

          Seems to me if Lewis & Clark can be memorialized in Civille or the other “Conqueror of the Northwest” surely we could accord someone like Sacagawea the same honor,no?

          These statues don’t really represent geography anyhow, they represent concepts, values, etc.

  8. StarboardLift Avatar
    StarboardLift

    The BOV decision to spend $400,000 to remove this statue is irresponsible both fiscally and academically. It would be far smarter to fabricate a plaque on a stand with verbiage that is instructive: “this statue depicts Clark heroically, was commissioned at a time when that view was accepted. While valuable knowledge was furnished by his work, his achievements are tempered by our knowledge of ______ and _____(list transgressions).” Then, ask each BOV member to make a contribution to https://www.indian-affairs.org which might actually help living native Americans.

    Statues are an art version of public service announcements. I can learn why someone was once lauded and is now viewed differently, all in the span of minutes. Most people have no idea who George Rogers Clark is.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      That’s it?! Just a plaque?! Why can they not spend an amount equal to the estimated value of the statue to commission a statue of greater proportions to commemorate the event and illustrate the transgressions?

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        Dunno how much that statue cost originally, probably not 400K – a number I’m, skeptical of.

        Let’s get some bids.

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Spear points to plowshares. Do you have any idea how many plumbing fixtures could be made from that statue? Maybe enough to remove lead pipes from some houses in Flint.

          1. WayneS Avatar

            Best to check the contents of the bronze used in the statue first. Some bronze alloys can contain as much as 3% lead.

      2. StarboardLift Avatar
        StarboardLift

        Why don’t you donate $ for a new statue that commemorates the current view of Clark? Context is the educational opportunity–explain who thought this was important, when, and why, and then explain why views have changed. Erasure does nothing instructive.

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