Conservative Microcosm in Virginia

Little Poquoson on The Peninsula is the first or second most Republican voting city of 134 cities and counties in the Commonwealth. In recent elections Poquoson keeps one of the top three highest per cent voter turn outs.

Our voter turn out was 62.44% (5270 voting out of 8440). Well above the State average.

We had a local race for city council and treasurer. That boosted turnout.

George Allen got 69.07% of the vote. He should have gotten 72 to 75% – at least. That means George didn’t get at least 154 to 293 votes that were his in the super safe Conservative city.

Rep. Jo Ann Davis got 78.80% of the vote. Jo Ann ran 481 votes ahead of George.

Marriage may have had a higher turn out 72.71% of the voters (6137 voting out of 8440). There is a discrepancy between the State Board of Elections (64.14% Yes of 5184 votes) and Daily Press (69.70% Yes of 6137 votes) numbers.

Using DP numbers, Yes for Marriage got 69.70% of the vote which is very close to Allen’s per cent. But, Yes ran 638 votes ahead of Allen and No ran 290 votes ahead of Webb.

Conversely, using SBE numbers Marriage ran behind Allen but No votes didn’t help Webb.

I conclude the Marriage Amendment didn’t boost Allen’s numbers in Poquoson.

So, what cost him?

I wrote in my blog, Deo Vindice, in September ( Friendly Note to George Allen/Thelma Drake: Elected Republicans Cost You Votes) about label fatigue for Republicans at the Federal level and in the Virginia General Assembly.

I have anecdotal evidence on where we lost from 150 to 480 votes in our Super ‘C’ city. Older retired military officers and younger defense engineers gave me an earful on why Rumsfeld should have been fired and, thus, Bush had screwed up prosecution of the War in Iraq.

Reliable Republicans, former dues paying partisans, told me that they were sick of the Repubicans at the Federal level doing nothing (and spending way too much) except two good SCOTUS appointments – and those were to be determined for their real future strength, a tax cut not made permanent, the lesser of two evils on the WW IV against Islamist Terrorism but making mistakes in Iraq…and Virginia Republicans in the General Assembly who raise our taxes and keep trying to cram Regional Governments down our throats.

A usually Republican voter, retired Air Force Officer and Vietnam Marine enlisted Vet, from my church told me last Sunday that Allen lost his vote when he brought up Webb’s writing. This guy said it was over reach, a sign of desperation, and just too much mud. Perhaps, the paid, professional analysts can show me that the loss of his one vote was offset by gaining other votes I don’t know about. My evidence is anecdotal purely. My experience tells me that each contact I have living in grassroots politics is indicative of more votes.

Before the election I didn’t know that these reasons and others actually would take the 3 to 6 % and corresponding 150-481 votes from Allen. Apparently, Larry Sabato did when he called Virginia for Webb.

The Conservative votes lost to Allen and gained by Jo Ann Davis show that in our microcosm there isn’t an ideological shift. We haven’t morphed Liberal.

Every election is about candidate, issues and campaign. Need all three to be right to win.


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12 responses to “Conservative Microcosm in Virginia”

  1. Larry Gross Avatar
    Larry Gross

    It will be interesting in the next few days to compare and contrast the “take” of the Social Conservatives with the “take” of the economic conservatives.

    The two were already at odds about what they thought the country wanted…. before the election.

    I write this as I watch a live Press Conference on C-SPAN where economic conservatives are saying that the Republicans lost their “souls” and it’s time to return to Reagans “roots”.

    Pun intended. ๐Ÿ™‚

  2. Jeremy Hinton Avatar
    Jeremy Hinton

    JAB said Every election is about candidate, issues and campaign. Need all three to be right to win.

    Interesting, so are you saying that when the dust settles, a Webb victory would be evidence that he was right on all three? Or am i misinterpreting your thoughts?

  3. Larry Gross Avatar
    Larry Gross

    Naw.. that’s only true for Republicans..

    ๐Ÿ™‚

  4. Anonymous Avatar

    Once again, Republicans failed to give the voters a positive reason to vote for them. Also, given the great discontent in the nation — not rejection of Virginia conservativism — our beloved Senator did not acknowlegde that he heard and understood those concerns.

  5. James Atticus Bowden Avatar
    James Atticus Bowden

    Jeremy: Webb got all three a little more right – to the tune of a couple of thousand votes. Perception is reality. I don’t applaud Webb as candidate, issues or campaign over Allen, but he presented them better by a very wee bit to the undecided and true middle, so-called moderate (actually mush) voters.

    Anon 11:36: Well said. Discontent came from the Left and the Right. That’s the point of my microcosm stats.

  6. Anonymous Avatar

    Maybe George Allen should just blame his loss on those “stupid, and lazy state workers” that he use to verbally beat up on when he was governor. I don’t know of a single state worker who voted for him. What goes around comes around and payback is hell.

  7. James Atticus Bowden Avatar
    James Atticus Bowden

    If state workers include teachers then plenty voted for him.

    Note to spleen vendors: The Southern, and Virginia, way is to magninamous (sp) in victory and defiant in defeat.

    Try it on for size.

  8. Anonymous Avatar

    Nice analysis. It’s good to see someone who can think, over and above whatever their gut convictions are.

    I liked the phrase “spleen vendors”, too.

  9. Anonymous Avatar

    Nice analysis. It’s good to see someone who can think, over and above whatever their gut convictions are.

    I liked the phrase “spleen vendors”, too.

  10. I think you are right about Poquoson. Accross the river, in Suffolk, you have a better microcosm of the state as a whole (a city, a lot of development, but still plenty of rural areas). Webb won narrowly, I think largely because of the dynamic you mention: a bad war forcing a lot of gov’t spending, thus creating big gov’t Republicans.

    Spirit of 1676, ya’ll.

  11. Anonymous Avatar

    I think it was the corruption of the republican leadership that sealed the deal for the D’s.

    word to the wise in Virginia, if you are a republican leading the Virginia Tobacco Commission, be wary. You could be next.

  12. James Atticus Bowden Avatar
    James Atticus Bowden

    August: Thanks. The key, though, in the chattering about red, blue and purple ideology in politics is this – Allen didn’t lose because he was too Conservative, or saying it the other way for Cong. Tom Davis’s benefit – not ‘moderate’ enough.

    Anon: Duh me, so who is the head of the Virginia Tobacco Commission. I’m too lazy to google this morning.

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