Ceaser Crosses the Rubicon, Refuses to Give DEI Loyalty Oath

Jim Ceaser

by James A. Bacon

Jim Ceaser runs the Program for Constitutionalism and Democracy at the University of Virginia, which provides civic education on American ideas in politics and political economy. The courses are unusual these days in surveying the thought of mostly dead White men: from Aristotle and Montesquieu to Edmund Burke and Alexis de Tocqueville. The courses are remarkable also in giving equal time – in many instances even more than equal time — to thinkers most people today consider conservative and who, he believes, receive less attention than they merit.

Ceaser is a fully tenured professor, which provides significant protections against being fired. As for the program he directs, which reaches a large number of students, all of the funding comes from private donors and foundations from outside the university. Having started teaching in 1975, he’s reached retirement age.

If not cancel-proof, he is cancel-resistant. That makes it easier for him to refuse to fill out questions in a “peer review evaluation form” that probe his thinking about Diversity, Equity & Inclusion.

The form requires faculty members to describe their teaching, advising, research and service activities in the previous year. For each of those topics, faculty are told to describe their efforts on behalf of Diversity, Equity & Inclusion. For example:

Please describe your efforts to cultivate and/or contribute to a diverse, inclusive, and equitable environment in the classroom. This can include subject matter, contents of syllabi, in-class pedagogy, etc.

If he did answer, Ceaser likely would stress that he treats his students as individuals without regard to their race, religion, gender, sexual orientation or group identity. He engages with all students who need help and grades them on the basis of their contributions to class and mastery of the material. But he knows that’s not what departmental functionaries are looking for. To the contrary. In some quarters of UVa — not everywhere, but some — color-blindness is deemed a racist tool designed to maintain White supremacy.

The requirement for employees and job applicants to write “diversity statements” emanates from Inclusive Excellence directives at the university level, filter down through guidelines at the school or college level, and are interpreted and administered at the departmental level. In Ceaser’s department, selected DEI representatives sit on faculty hiring committees and employee-review committees.

I asked UVa spokesman Brian Coy if the questions Ceaser had to fill out in his peer-review evaluation form were standard at UVa, what weight is given to the answers, and whether the addition of the DEI questions to the peer-review questionnaire was ever discussed with, or approved by, the Board of Visitors.

Coy answered as follows, referring to both the academic and health-care divisions of UVa:

The highest task of every UVA faculty member is to align their teaching, research, and service efforts with our greater mission of serving the Commonwealth of Virginia, the nation, and the world by developing responsible citizen leaders and professionals; advancing, preserving, and disseminating knowledge, and providing world-class patient care. The questions you include below are part of a comprehensive evaluation of College faculty that covers many different elements of the job they are expected to perform here at the University.

The part of the evaluation you quote gives faculty members space to reflect on ways they are contributing to an academic environment where students from different perspectives and walks of life feel welcome and are exposed to ideas, points of view, and experiences different from their own. This part of the larger evaluation is intended to ensure that College faculty are connecting their teaching, research, and service with the diversity and complexity of the Commonwealth, nation, and world those efforts are intended to serve.

I queried Ceaser about Coy’s statement. He responded that it did no more than repeat the shibboleths of diversity, equity & inclusion “that one would expect to hear from a coy spokesperson.” These terms, he said, “have no fixed meanings and vary according to different political understandings.”

The following questions, which the university’s Human Resources Department “suggests” for use in job-applicant interviews, give a flavor of the favored thinking. I have highlighted passages that are especially loaded ideologically.

  1. How has privilege impacted your professional career?
  2. In what ways have you demonstrated commitment and sensitivity to the importance of diversity in your previous experience?
  3. Please demonstrate your awareness of difference within commonly-accepted categories of diversity.
  4. What do you see as the fundamental characteristics of organizations that create an inclusive environment?
  5. How would you describe your current thinking about diversity, and how has your thinking changed over time?
  6. What does it mean for you to have a commitment to diversity? How have you demonstrated that commitment, and how would you see yourself demonstrating it here?
  7. Sometimes there is a belief that a commitment to diversity conflicts with a commitment to excellence (i.e. we will have to lower our standards to achieve or accommodate diversity). How would you describe the relationship between diversity and excellence? What kinds of leadership efforts would you undertake to encourage a commitment to excellence through diversity?
  8. We promote and value diversity and equity. How has your teaching, mentoring and/or research addressed issues of diversity and equity in education?
  9. Can you tell us a bit more about your approach to teaching? For instance, how do you assess the diverse learning needs of your students?
  10. What are ways in which you incorporate issues of diversity into your work as a professor?
  11. How would you advocate for diversity education and diversity initiatives with individuals who don’t see its value?
  12. What opportunities have you taken to improve the learning environment for historically marginalized students?
  13. Has diversity played a role in shaping your teaching and advising styles? If so, how?
  14. How has your background and experience prepared you to be effective in an environment [that values diversity] [is committed to inclusion] [where we see awareness of and respect for diversity as an important value]?
  15. Explain what you believe to be an effective strategy to diversify curricula.
  16. How might you handle a white student who claims, “I just don’t have a cultural identity”?

Ceaser does not know what reaction to expect from his act of administrative disobedience. Will he suffer negative consequences, or will the administration let slide his refusal to respond to these questions?

DEI statements are by now a widespread phenomenon in higher education, but a reaction has begun to set in. In Florida, Governor Ron DeSantis has vowed to purge DEI from higher education. In North Carolina, the Board of Governors of the University of North Carolina system has removed DEI statements from its hiring and admissions practices due to concerns about compelled speech.

No organized challenge to DEI statements has surfaced yet in Virginia. One reason is that no one has challenged them. Outside organizations like The Jefferson Council cannot file a lawsuit because we have no standing — that is, we have not been directly affected by the policy or suffered any damages. A legal challenge must come from a member of the faculty or staff who has refused to comply with the diversity statements and suffered punishment as a result.

Ceaser is following his individual path, not seeking to spark a legal revolution. He acknowledges that his defiance of the “empty DEI trilogy” could pose an interesting test, but he’s looking for a less confrontational outcome. “I hope the embarrassment of associating a first-class university with this foolishness will soon force a change.”


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65 responses to “Ceaser Crosses the Rubicon, Refuses to Give DEI Loyalty Oath”

  1. WayneS Avatar

    You can’t really fault the UVA spokesman for being coy when giving his answers to your questions…

  2. M. Purdy Avatar
    M. Purdy

    For purposes of clarity: Is the survey optional or not? Is it anonymous? If it’s optional, who cares? If it’s mandated, then don’t answer the questions you don’t like. Is there a category of ‘no opinion’ or ‘rather not answer’? If it’s anonymous, bombs away.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      You are attempting to be coy. It screams “danger” to every applicant. Damned if you do, doubly damned if you don’t.

      1. M. Purdy Avatar
        M. Purdy

        It does nothing of the sort. The university is allowed to have core values, and they’re allowed to ask about how employees and applicants intend to live up to them. More to the point, 360 peer reviews and climate studies are done routinely by institutions–govt., academic, private sector. They’re typically anonymous and voluntary, though participation is encouraged. If this is one of those surveys, then this is another big nothing-burger-imaginary-boogieman that BR is known for.

    2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      You are attempting to be coy. It screams “danger” to every applicant. Damned if you do, doubly damned if you don’t.

  3. Thomas Dixon Avatar
    Thomas Dixon

    DEI poisons not just UVA but many systems that Virginia taxpayers did not vote for, do not approve of, are unconstitutional, but yet fund. During Northam’s tenure, the legislature passed a bill to give loan relief to clinicians that worked in specified areas deemed underprivileged or poor in an effort to get more help in those areas. However after that bill was passed, the Department of Health, in my opinion illegally, inserted language that stated priorities would be given to applicants of color.

    ” Priority will be given to eligible BH professionals of color, those who speak more than one language fluently, and/or those who practice in one of Virginia’s many mental health professional shortage areas.”
    https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/health-equity/virginia-behavioral-health-student-loan-repayment-program/

    Come again? What color? Green? Taupe? Pink?
    The corruption is so deep now we don’t even bat an eye.

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      The color is equity which is Constitutional and legal.

      1. Lefty665 Avatar
        Lefty665

        Silly walk perfection, right on time Jim. Knew we could count on you.

      2. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        And discrimination on the basis of race is not, even if you call it “equity.”

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          If y’all discriminate by choice the brand of beer you prefer, it’s not illegal nor in violation of the Constitution. Same result for your dinner companions. But…you got one right – discrimination on the basis of race is illegal, unconstitutional, and inequitable.

          1. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            “discrimination on the basis of race is illegal, unconstitutional, and inequitable.”

            Glad you have at last figured that out. The next step is applying it to woke racists like yourself, Kendi and the KKK. Once again from Kendi that you defend:

            “The remedy for past discrimination is present discrimination. The remedy for present discrimination is future discrimination.”

          2. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Sooner or later you may offer the entire quotation even as it contradicts your prejudice. Since you employed two ethnically discriminatory terms in an earlier post, characterizing others as racist moves the needle closer to pure hypocrisy for you. I never defended your enemy Kendi, only noted your failure to report accurately his quotation. Such selective or discriminatory editing is poor scholarship.

          3. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Ha Ha,silly walks are you. Keep making things up for our amusement. Kendi’s writing is what it is, racist, your nonsensical attempt at defensive parsing not withstanding. Keep walking silly Jim, it brings us joy.

          4. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Kendi’s preface that past discrimination makes his remedy of present and future discrimination even more racist. It does not excuse racism. Your continued attempts to use it to justify racism is every bit the racist garbage that Kendi’s racism is.

            I’ve got no use for Kookinelli and never have. We were fortunate to get shed of him in Virginia and were lucky we survived his lunacy when he failed upward as a Fed.

            Your displacement of your own racism to others is sad. It is also not surprising that you fail to grasp Wayne’s wonderful satire of UVa’s woke racist CRT/DIE inquisitions. No Jim McCarthy silly walk award for you today. But don’t be discouraged, I’m sure you will rally to achieve silly walks again.

          5. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Seems my earlier reply has disappeared. Your denial of and deflection from your ethnic discrimination doesn’t save them. A paraphrase of Mr. Kendi’s opening sentence which you routinely omit might help: “The only remedy for ethnic discrimination is anti-ethnic discrimination.” Share your Italian “humor” with Ken Cuccinelli. Better yet, light up a tiki torch and chant, “Italians (Irish) will not replace me.” That ought to provide you great joy more than my silly observations of your glib posture on discrimination. Scratch the surface of a Rightie to see what’s beneath. More especially as you claim “us” and “our” as defense of your views.

          6. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Kendi’s preface that past discrimination justifies present and future discrimination does not make racism ok as you keep asserting. It makes Kendi’s racism even clearer and more noxious. Keep it up, you make the point inescapable. Racism is racism. Kendi or the Klan, it all stinks the same. It keeps us from achieving the dream of a country where people are judged by the content of their characters rather than the color of their skins.

            Displacement of your own racism to others is sad, but have at it if it makes you feel better.

            Jim McCarthy’s silly walks are you. Congrats on your achievement.

          7. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Why do you avoid addressing your disparaging ethnic remarks? Ethnic discrimination is a bare step removed from the overt racism you ardently attack. Denial of and deflection from the comments does not make them invisible. That’s what stinks. Ethnic discrimination promotes some to the top of the totem viewing others below. Skin color is not the sole substance of discrimination.

            You consistently misstate the meaning of Kendi’s opening sentence. It urges “anti-racial” discrmination not present or future “racial” discrimination. Your anti-Italian epithets are discriminatory. Period.

          8. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Your outrage is touching, You fail to understand Wayne’s delightful humorous takedown of Uva’s woke racist CRT/DIE demands for obeisance. Laughing at the buffoons earnest silliness is one step towards vanquishing them.

            “You consistently misstate the meaning of Kendi’s opening sentence. It urges “anti-racial” discrmination (sic) not present or future “racial” discrimination.”

            Exactly, and you use that prefatory call to “discrminate” to justify Kendi’s immediately following exhortation that “The remedy for past discrimination is present discrimination. The remedy for present discrimination is future discrimination.” That racism, your defense of it and the Klan are one and the same.

            You can have either side of the argument, but not both. Either discrimination is wrong or it is right.

            ‘Ya gotta do better to earn another Jim McCarthy silly walk. Keep it up, I feel sure you can achieve silly once again.

          9. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Your continued avoidance of your use of disparaging ethic terms speaks volumes. Frankly, I enjoyed Wayne’s take on the DEI issue as it was creative and absent discriminatory content. But not your employment of epithets concerning Italians and Irish. We can disagree on the interpretation of Kendi’s statement but your continued deflection to address that item only increases the thin masking of your ethnic discriminatory remarks.

            Glib deflection cannot protect you. That is buffoonery, if not fear of having been called out. Shall we hear the “It was only a joke” defense?

          10. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            You clearly did not read all the way through Wayne’s piece to item 16 which was, like the other 15, wonderfully creative.

            We do not “disagree” on you and your racist ilk, Kendi and the Klan. Your racism and Kendi’s are despicable and a threat to the future of the country every bit as much as the Klan’s was a century or more ago. It speaks to the racist content of Kendi’s character. The Klan was defeated as modern racists need to be called out and defeated today.

            Here’s another take on the danger to the country and all of us from woke racism and identity politics.

            Democrats becoming the “racists they claim to hate.” “They’re directly betraying Dr. Martin Luther King’s dream … judging us purely based on the color of our skin rather than on the content of our character. They become the racist that they claim to hate.”

            https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/tulsi-gabbard-accuses-democrats-of-becoming-racists

          11. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Your ethnically discriminatory remarks about Italians and Irish place you in the same box as the racists you allege to abhor. Once again, your response in assailing Kendi is pure avoidance of addressing the comments you made. As noted earlier, Wayne’s tale was amusing while your ethnic comments were not. You can orate and perorate all you wish about your opinions on the racial discrimination of others and the alleged betrayal of King’s dreams. Your ethnic insults addressed to Wayne concerning Italians remains your testimony in writing however loudly and persistently you deflect to other issues. You are clearly failing your own rhetoric. Perhaps, instead of Democrats, it is your reflection you see on the mirror becoming the racist you “claim to hate.” A modern one at that.
            Your inability to distinguish the satirical dialogue in #16 in Wayne’s piece from your insulting remarks about Italians is more evidence of the intellectual charade you are engaged with over racism. If anything, Wayne’s failure to object to your comments only buttresses your vision of “us” and “our” unity of discrimination.

          12. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            My long ago Italian girl friend loved Italian jokes. She also used to sing. A favorite tune was:
            “Who put the WOP in the WOP shaWOP WOP. Who put the ram in the rama dama ding dong. Who was that man, I’d like to shake his hand. He made my baby fall in love with me.”

            Have a nice day, and many happy Jim McCarthy silly walks.

          13. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            More justification for discrimination: Look, an Italian (American?) does it!!! Capitalizing the slur is further evidence of juvenile humor. Y’all just can’t cut it. The myopia is breathtaking.

          14. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            As it turns out, you have now misquoted the lyrics (authored by a Jewish American) which do not contain the term you cite. Keep it up. Kendi is smiling.

          15. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            That’s how she sang it, emphasis in her original. If Kendi is smiling he’s smiling at your racism that matches his or your Jim McCarthy silly walks, or both.

      3. Lefty665 Avatar
        Lefty665

        Silly walk perfection, right on time Jim. Knew we could count on you.

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Always at your service but not offering stale remarks.

          1. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Your ability to find new ways to be silly is impressive.

          2. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Hillaryous, absolutely Hillaryous. Trenchant!

          3. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Tarring me with Hillary, that’s a low blow, but also very silly. Another Jim McCarthy silly walk award. Way to go Jim.

          4. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Another disappeared comment. “Hillaryous” is no lower a blow than your anti-Italian and anti-Irish comments.

          5. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Ah, the it’s only humor defense. Thanx for sharing.

          6. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            You’re welcome Mc, any time:)

          7. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Be advised you have not earned the respect to use that nickname.

          8. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Friends do not disparage the ethnicity of those with whom they seek a relationship. Discriminators of a feather flock together for comfort often in disguise as virtue signalers. ;(
            Such is also true in engaging civil conversation. Characterizing strangers as racists is not the beginning of a beautiful friendship. Or offering insulting ethnic comments as humor.

          9. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            “Characterizing strangers as racists is not the beginning of a beautiful friendship.”

            As my dear old mother used to say “Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.” Your embrace of racists like Kendi defines the content of your character. All I have done is to observe it as you have made stuff up to rationalize racism.

          10. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Once again, twisting another’s statements to suit your prejudice. I never embraced Kendi only defended your failure to report completely his statement. What’s made up is your faux campaign criticizing racism as you honor ethnic slurs. Those are not spots before your eyes, they’re fleas.

          11. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Once again, twisting another’s statements to suit your prejudice. I never embraced Kendi only defended your failure to report completely his statement. What’s made up is your faux campaign criticizing racism as you honor ethnic slurs. Those are not spots before your eyes, they’re fleas.

      4. WayneS Avatar

        And what is the color of equity? From a purely scientific standpoint, the true color of equity should be white, since white objects reflect the entire visible light spectrum.

        😉

        1. Matt Adams Avatar
          Matt Adams

          Next thing you know, you’re gonna get philosophical and say that black isn’t a color it’s just the absence of light.

        2. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          In November 2022, a Federal Court jury in Hawaii judged two Hawaiian men of a hate crime after beating a white man calling him “haole” which translates as foreigner and white. They were recently sentenced to prison time. True color of equity? You decide.

  4. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    Ceasar might need a pontoon bridge to get back to the other side of the Rubicon.

    1. WayneS Avatar

      He should also steer clear of people named Brutus.

      1. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        Especially considering the ides are approaching.

    2. Lefty665 Avatar
      Lefty665

      and make sure the river ain’t the Styx.

  5. f/k/a_tmtfairfax Avatar
    f/k/a_tmtfairfax

    An example of what type of reform commonwealth attorneys should be able to do without legislation is Steve Descano’s announcement that the petitioner to have a conviction expunged need not show up for a pro forma hearing that lasts only a few minutes.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Certainly will make the “best of Steve Descano” list. There are few candidates.

  6. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    How might you handle a white student who claims, “I just don’t have a cultural identity”?

    That’s my favorite item in the catechism, for it is a catechism, an unwavering set of doctrinal beliefs not to be questioned. They teach it and you spit it back verbatim and frame your views and behavior around it. But I’d love to know what answer they are looking for there, and I suspect the answer they want is to tell the student — you are a privileged oppressor, that being a “cultural identity.”

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      “ doctrinal beliefs ” and there is no climate change.

      “… when you actually embrace a lot of the basic inputs of diversity of thought, lowering carbon footprint, thinking about how to save energy, trying to increase efficiency, you just get better outcomes“ -Glen Youngkin

    2. WayneS Avatar

      Do you think they would appreciate my answer to that question?

  7. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    1. Private company.
    2. Diversity Inclusion, no equity.

  8. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Pretty bad when you can’t quote the governor on DE&I. That is censorship.

    “… there are companies that, in fact you can take a company that’s not so great at it and make it much better on an ESG scorecard and you create value. You can take a business that in fact the whole business plan is around some very innovative ESG strategy.” — Glen Youngkin while CEO of Carlyle.

  9. WayneS Avatar

    My answers to UVA’s recommended questions:

    1. How has privilege impacted your professional career? I’ll circle back to you on that once someone convinces me I have experienced privilege.

    2. In what ways have you demonstrated commitment and sensitivity to the importance of diversity in your previous experience? I treat everyone the same regardless of skin color, religion, ethnic background, hair style, musical talent or driving ability. Well, not so much the last one. Bad drivers suck.

    3. Please demonstrate your awareness of difference within commonly-accepted categories of diversity. I’ll circle back to you on this one after you provide me a comprehensive list of “commonly-accepted categories of diversity”.

    4. What do you see as the fundamental characteristics of organizations that create an inclusive environment? Ummm. They are inclusive… Is this a trick question?

    5. How would you describe your current thinking about diversity, and how has your thinking changed over time? My thoughts on diversity are… …well, diverse. I don’t really remember when I first realized I have diverse thoughts about diversity, but based on the diversity of my diverse thoughts about diversity and the diverse experiences I have diversely experienced throughout my diverse life, I think my diverse thoughts about diversity are even more diverse today than they were even, say, six months ago.

    6. What does it mean for you to have a commitment to diversity? How have you demonstrated that commitment, and how would you see yourself demonstrating it here? Your question presupposes that I have a commitment to diversity. I don’t have a commitment to diversity – or anything else for that matter. I have a deep-seated fear of commitment. Hold on a minute…. Are you hitting on me?

    7. Sometimes there is a belief that a commitment to diversity conflicts with a commitment to excellence (i.e. we will have to lower our standards to achieve or accommodate diversity). How would you describe the relationship between diversity and excellence? What kinds of leadership efforts would you undertake to encourage a commitment to excellence through diversity? Diversity contains 9 letters and excellence contains 10 letters, and I think we all know how tempestuous and tumultuous the relationship between 9 and 10 is. I mean, last year at the Christmas party? Talk about drama. Good Lord, you’d think they were prime numbers or something, and… … wait a minute, what was the question again?

    8. We promote and value diversity and equity. How has your teaching, mentoring and/or research addressed issues of diversity and equity in education? I teach all of my students to diversify their portfolios, and I tell them they should consider making equity funds a part of that portfolio. My research backs this up.

    9. Can you tell us a bit more about your approach to teaching? For instance, how do you assess the diverse learning needs of your students? I treat all of my students like idiots until they prove to me they are not.

    10. What are ways in which you incorporate issues of diversity into your work as a professor? I don’t just teach it to my students, I live it. I have a very diverse personal portfolio which includes several equity funds.

    11. How would you advocate for diversity education and diversity initiatives with individuals who don’t see its value? I’d lead with “don’t keep all of your eggs in one basket”. If that did not convince them, I’d try “diversity is the spice of life”. If that doesn’t bring them around, I’m afraid I’d have to write them off as a lost cause.

    12. What opportunities have you taken to improve the learning environment for historically marginalized students? I provide the same learning environment and opportunities for marginalized students as I do for students who use butter.

    13. Has diversity played a role in shaping your teaching and advising styles? If so, how? Yes. Diversifying my portfolio has allowed me to become quite wealthy. Not having to worry about money helps me maintain my relaxed, aloof, attitude towards teaching.

    14. How has your background and experience prepared you to be effective in an environment [that values diversity] [is committed to inclusion] [where we see awareness of and respect for diversity as an important value]? Look, I think I covered that quite well in my answers to your previous questions. To expand upon Emerson: “Redundancy is also a hobgoblin of little minds” – if you catch my drift.

    15. Explain what you believe to be an effective strategy to diversify curricula. I’d do things like requiring Liberal Arts majors to take calculus, linear algebra, differential equations and probability & statistics; making Engineering students take 21 credit-hours in the Philosophy department; requiring athletes to study… …well, anything. Stuff like that.

    16. How might you handle a white student who claims, “I just don’t have a cultural identity”? I’d slap him in the side of the head and yell: “You look like a lousy MICK to me, fella!”. If he came up swinging wildly, I’d know he’s a Mick. If he stood up and started deliberately and precisely punching me, I’d know he’s a Kraut. If he started whimpering and asking for forgiveness, I’d know he’s a Frog. Then I’d tell him his cultural identity and send him on his way.

    1. Lefty665 Avatar
      Lefty665

      Wonderful, you made my day! Thank you.:):):)

      1. WayneS Avatar

        I’m glad you liked it.

        1. Lefty665 Avatar
          Lefty665

          Just read it again. It’s even better the 2nd time through:):):) Smooth as butter.

          16 …and if he came up with a shiv you’d know he was a Guinea and hit him again, WOP, WOP, WOP.

          1. WayneS Avatar

            Nice!

            May I use that if I decide to distribute this to a larger audience?

          2. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Had an Italian lineage girl friend long ago. She knew her some Eyetalian jokes.

          3. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            Sure, have at it! She would be tickled.

            FYI It derived from “Why don’t they allow helicopters in Italy?” Answer, “When they go up they go wop, wop, wop. When they come down they go guinea, guinea, guinea.”

            Mom used to say that you can tell politicians in D.C. are about done when we start laughing at them. With a little luck it works the same with CRT/DIE woke racists.

          4. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Google the meaning of both terms before publicizing them further.

          5. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            WOP pejoratively described Italian immigrants said to have entered the U.S. illegally, without papers. You might last a few seconds in NYC’s Little Italy or the ArthurAve (A Bronx Tale) neighborhoods spouting such unfunny terms.

          6. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            WOP pejoratively described Italian immigrants said to have entered the U.S. illegally, without papers. You might last a few seconds in NYC’s Little Italy or the ArthurAve (A Bronx Tale) neighborhoods spouting such unfunny terms.

    2. LesGabriel Avatar
      LesGabriel

      If I didn’t know better, I would think you are being sarcastic.

    3. Mind if I shamelessly steal your answers should I be ambushed with such nonsense?

      1. WayneS Avatar

        Go right ahead.

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