Boys Left Behind Academically – Yet Another Crisis in Virginia Schools

by James C. Sherlock

Girls significantly outperform boys in English Language Arts (ELA) (reading and writing) in public schools and perform about as well in math and science, both across the nation and in Virginia.

Virginia statewide SOL performance statistics give the details here.

Across the state, girl students are better readers and far better writers than boys. Those English language arts performances at the state level of course mask both smaller and greater gaps in individual divisions and schools.

The writing gaps exist in both high-performing Loudoun County and in poor-performing Richmond City schools.

Broken down to the next level of detail in writing performance statewide, it looks worse.

There is a single-sex classroom option that has been operating for a long time at a middle school in Prince William County. For the best ELA results, it is reasonable to think that model may have to be extended to elementary school.

College and Career Readiness statistics offer confirmation of the outcome of boys’ ELA deficiencies.

The Virginia Literacy Act starting in the 2024-25 school year will make major upgrades to literacy instruction.

Absenteeism.  It would be easy to consider educational gaps in boys to be an artifact of higher absenteeism than girls.  But that’s not it.

One of the artifacts of my research into chronic absenteeism in Virginia public schools statewide in 2023 was that male and female results by percentage were exactly the same: 19.5%.

That, on the surface at least, may confirm parental influence on absenteeism.

The science of learning in boys. The medical community has offered scientific observations of brain science and social development that matter here.

Those observations typically include, aggregated by Microsoft Bing AI search from three different sources:

  • Boys’ brains secrete less serotonin, which is directly related to impulse control;
  • Boys start out primarily as tactile and kinesthetic learners;
  • Boys show more areas in the brain dedicated to spatial-mechanical strengths;
  • Girls generally demonstrate a focus on verbal-emotive processing;
  • Girls have more of their cerebral cortex defined for verbal function;
  • The hippocampus, where memory and language live, does develop more rapidly and is larger in girls than in boys. This impacts vocabulary, reading, and writing skills.

We will consider those to be illustrative. They certainly seem to argue for different approaches to educating boys and girls.

Asian students.  The special case of Asian students in ELA and all other subjects must be taken into account when seeking solutions to the boy/girl gaps. They absolutely blow away all other demographics of students, despite the fact that English may not be the first language spoken at home.

That clearly represents a difference in learning style and effort, not in teaching style.

The public data on Asian students are not in Virginia deconstructed by male and female results, but I have asked VDOE to provide and I will report it.

Educational evidence.  In 2005, the Policy and Program Studies Service of the U.S. Department of Education published Single-Sex Versus Coeducational Schooling: A Systematic Review.  

The reviewers used What Works Clearinghouse (WWC) standards to sort through 2,221 studies.

The Executive Summary is here. I urge you to read it.

You will see that the bulk of the evidence at the time of that review favored learning in single-sex schools. But you will also see that the support for the conclusions is generally thin because of a dearth of scientific studies of important issues.

A current search of WWC on that topic yields no study that meets their standards.

The ed schools have moved on.

Single-sex classrooms have been offered successfully at Woodbridge Middle School in Prince William County for more than a dozen years.  We will examine that in more detail in the next article.

But that single school effort is not robust enough to meet WWC standards. It will take a much broader, scientifically designed and run trial.

Bottom line. The educational gaps between boys and girls are too big for state government and citizens to continue to ignore in Virginia.

Indiana has not ignored them. See both sides of The Great Gender Debate: Should Boys And Girls Learn Separately? published by Indiana’s State Impact Project.

It is time to focus on the education of boys who, unsurprisingly, act and learn like boys.

Woodbridge Middle has proven it is possible to offer single-sex classrooms in co-ed public schools, subject to parental choice of classroom assignments.

And it has apparently solved, if such a thing is achievable, the ACLU’s objections to single-sex schools detailed in The Great Gender Debate.

Next time I will offer a concept for the voluntary implementation by school divisions of single-gender and co-ed classrooms in co-ed public schools across Virginia.

It will serve as the basis for a definitive study to provide the evidence needed to solve the debate.

Updated Dec. 19 at 15:20 to add the discussion about Woodbridge Middle and to eliminate the discussion about ed schools.


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109 responses to “Boys Left Behind Academically – Yet Another Crisis in Virginia Schools”

  1. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Girls are smarter than boys and mature more quickly. Wow, who knew. My wife has long believed in single-sex education and enjoyed seeing it work at the private school at the end of her full time career.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      It has been shown that there are differences in how each learns mathematics, when women aren’t discouraged by their parents, of course.

      I doubt it carries over to too many other subjects.

      And yes, they are smarter. Fewer girls die performing less than smart feats of prowess. Ya know, like skateboarding on the cornice of a 10-story building.

      Or…
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vseTxE0_t-I

    2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Most experts dispute the “smarter” comment.

      One recommendation I have seen in my research, in addition to single-sex classes, is starting boys in school a year later than girls at parental option. That came from a brain science expert.

      1. I believe a big factor is effort. Girls at that age spend more time on schoolwork, and work harder at it.

        If single sex schools are tried, I would like to see the impact of male teachers for boys. Many underachieving boys these days have a mother at home, but need a father figure to set an example for them and provide a strong hand when needed.

        1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          So would I, but the school divisions have what they have. In 2020-21 nationally, more than 3/4 of public school teachers were women. I hope that principals would move as many male teachers into male classes as they can, but I do not know that they would. It would vary by participating school.

        2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          So would I, but the school divisions have what they have. In 2020-21 nationally, more than 3/4 of public school teachers were women. I hope that principals would move as many male teachers into male classes as they can, but I do not know that they would. It would vary by participating school.

          1. Not Today Avatar

            What is a male class? I would love to see more male teachers but the only way to do that is to increase pay, classroom autonomy, and decrease political interference. Men aren’t signing up/lining up for micromanagement just to ‘help kids’ (or anyone else for that matter).

          2. Not Today Avatar

            What is a male class? I would love to see more male teachers but the only way to do that is to increase pay, classroom autonomy, and decrease political interference. Men aren’t signing up/lining up for micromanagement just to ‘help kids’ (or anyone else for that matter).

          3. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            One of the best teachers I ever had was a male teacher. Biology. His way of explaining things was very memorable and, dare I say, a bit entertaining. Mr. Nemerow, Osbourn Park. Wonder if James Wyatt Whitehead may know him. I don’t believe he’s teaching anymore.

          4. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            One of the best teachers I ever had was a male teacher. Biology. His way of explaining things was very memorable and, dare I say, a bit entertaining. Mr. Nemerow, Osbourn Park. Wonder if James Wyatt Whitehead may know him. I don’t believe he’s teaching anymore.

          5. Not Today Avatar

            I’m happy you had a positive experience with a teacher. One of my most memorable teachers was also a male, in Language Arts for GT students. He read aloud for 30 minutes each day to a class full of 11 yo precocious readers from a singular text, a class full of students who raced to obtain their own copies of the book. He retired as a PE teacher. What does any of this tripping down memory lane have to do with the question I asked? What is a ‘male’ class? Do keep in mind that my daughter is a STEM major.

          6. Not Today Avatar

            I’m happy you had a positive experience with a teacher. One of my most memorable teachers was also a male, in Language Arts for GT students. He read aloud for 30 minutes each day to a class full of 11 yo precocious readers from a singular text, a class full of students who raced to obtain their own copies of the book. He retired as a PE teacher. What does any of this tripping down memory lane have to do with the question I asked? What is a ‘male’ class? Do keep in mind that my daughter is a STEM major.

          7. Not Today Avatar

            I’m happy you had a positive experience with a teacher. One of my most memorable teachers was also a male, in Language Arts for GT students. He read aloud for 30 minutes each day to a class full of 11 yo precocious readers from a singular text, a class full of students who raced to obtain their own copies of the book. He retired as a PE teacher. What does any of this tripping down memory lane have to do with the question I asked? What is a ‘male’ class? Do keep in mind that my daughter is a STEM major.

          8. LarrytheG Avatar

            Yes. And the most frustrating ones of which there was more than one, were the ones who could not explain what was going on with a math or algebra problem, as if they did not know either.

            But I ended up working with two guys who did know and could explain it…

          9. LarrytheG Avatar

            The name of the game in modelling is having equations that produce reasonable accurate answers – done by a process called “curve fitting”.

            Works great for ONE equation.

            But then do 20, 30 or more as you might for a vehicle moving through a 3D (or 6d) space and the “errors” add up cumulatively AND they can offset.. How to normalize that! Folks who know their math can do! But not all can explain it.

            And such equations and models incorporated all around us from automobiles, to GPS navigation to cell tower communications, to flow in a river etc…

          10. Not Today Avatar

            I’m happy you had a positive experience with a teacher. One of my most memorable teachers was also a male, in Language Arts for GT students. He read aloud for 30 minutes each day to a class full of 11 yo precocious readers from a singular text, a class full of students who raced to obtain their own copies of the book. He retired as a PE teacher. What does any of this tripping down memory lane have to do with the question I asked? What is a ‘male’ class? Do keep in mind that my daughter is a STEM major.

          11. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            Until I got to high school, the only male teachers I had were shop and PE teachers.

          12. Not Today Avatar

            I had several in elementary (Language arts and science), middle school (math and music) and high school (PE and music). My husband did as well. men now absent themself from the profession. Why is that?

          13. Not Today Avatar

            I had several in elementary (Language arts and science), middle school (math and music) and high school (PE and music). My husband did as well. men now absent themself from the profession. Why is that? How would one move male teachers into ‘male classes’ and still achieve meritocracy? Or, dare I ask it, is there some EQUITY stake in having more males in front of classrooms of students?

          14. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            Now that I think about it, I did have a male Social Studies teacher in 7th grade. Mr Clendaniel. How could I forget, he also wrote for the Manassas Journal Messenger as a sports reporter. Other than that and shop / PE teachers, though, that’s it, till high school.

          15. LarrytheG Avatar

            I don’t recall ANY male teachers in high school.. except maybe one for PE.

          16. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I think it has become more common as time goes on.

          17. Anecdotally, while volunteering at book sales held by libraries, one will meet parents who express frustration that their sons have not developed into being readers. I always point them to the various essays written about how bad literature and fiction is taught in the schools. One high school English teacher described the way literature is taught as conducting an autopsy on a novel where the novel is broken down for its parts. I also love to point out the posting by Orson Scott Card on his own website about being asked about the themes of the novel “Ender’s Game.” Card writes that the novel does not have any themes but has a plot and that any teacher asking students who write an essay about the themes of a novel does not know what they, the teachers, are doing.

          18. I always point them to the various essays written about how bad literature and fiction is taught in the schools.

            Are you sure you do not mean how poorly literature and fiction are taught in the schools?

          19. Thanks to the scolding schoolmarm. And people wonder why males are much likely to develop a habit of reading for pleasure.

          20. No scolding. It’s just that the statement has a completely different meaning when it contains the adjective ‘bad’ in place of the adverb ‘poorly’.

            ‘Bad’ modifies the noun(s) ‘literature’ and ‘fiction’.

            ‘Poorly’ modifies the verb ‘taught’.

          21. LarrytheG Avatar

            badly?

          22. Badly would work, but when I think ‘poorly’ sounds better.

            Also, bad is typically the opposite of good, while poor is the opposite of well. We definitely do not say someone is “goodly taught” or “good taught”, we say they are “well taught” or “taught well” (assuming they are).

            Thus, “poorly taught” is the preferred opposite of “well taught”.

          23. What is a male class?

            He is referring to the scenario in which single-sex education is offered.

            A ‘male class’ would be a class in which all the students are male.

          24. Not Today Avatar

            So, he’s advocating segregating in PUBLIC schools? There are single-sex options available for a fee.

    3. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      It has been shown that there are differences in how each learns mathematics, when women aren’t discouraged by their parents, of course.

      I doubt it carries over to too many other subjects.

      And yes, they are smarter. Fewer girls die performing less than smart feats of prowess. Ya know, like skateboarding on the cornice of a 10-story building.

      Or…
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vseTxE0_t-I

      1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
        James C. Sherlock

        Interesting. Both math and ELA teach languages. But mathematics SOL scores display no gender gap.

        It would be useful to find out how the teaching methods at a brain science level differ to drive the ELA gaps.

        See here for one take on differences in math performance. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-boys-better-than-girls-at-math/

        The author suggests what gap exists is most apparent in favor of young men at higher levels of math.

        Statewide in Virginia there is some evidence of that. 11% of boys scored as advanced on math SOLs as opposed to 9% of girls. That is a pretty big gap both in percentage and raw numbers. Open “show data” in math here. http://schoolquality.virginia.gov/virginia-state-quality-profile

        Note that 28% of Asian students score advanced in math.

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          “Boys do not pursue mathematical activities at a higher rate than girls because they are better at mathematics. They do so, at least in part, because they think they are better.” Shelley Correll, Professor of Sociology, Stanford University.

          “Think you can, think you cannot, you are right.” It’s all social don’t you know. It’s been a long time since I read anything on learning difference between the sexes or even discussed it with others, but as I recall the difference was more in order of presentation of material.

    4. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      See the new section on Asian students.

    5. As anyone who has ever judged a science fair or a debate tournament or anything else involving high school kids, girls are not smarter as much as girls as much better as administrative maze runners.

      1. how_it_works Avatar
        how_it_works

        Girls are better at making sure that they have the right cover sheet on their TPS report.

        1. How true. They will also make sure that everyone else puts a cover sheet on their TPS report.

  2. LarrytheG Avatar

    So perhaps a dumb comment? Do girls learn differently than boys and female teachers teach the way that girls learn?

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Not a dumb comment at all. First, girls do learn differently than boys. See the article for that.

      But your second question, whether female teachers teach the way that girls learn is an excellent question that I have no way of answering.

      Virginia’s Standards of Learning, especially the instructional plans, could be examined for gender bias, but I am not qualified to do it.
      https://www.doe.virginia.gov/teaching-learning-assessment/k-12-standards-instruction/english-reading-literacy/instructional-resources/comprehensive-literacy-english-instructional-plans

      Another path of inquiry is how the teachers are taught to teach ELA in the ed schools.

      Finally, there is documentation that suggests female teachers favor girls because boys are disruptive.

      Someone besides me will have to do the work to sort all of that out.

      The large scale study I will propose in the next article can make those questions drive part of the data collection.

    2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      I think it is really that when they are strapped to a chair in a classroom, they feel like they should be out hunting mammoths.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        I worked with a bunch of guys and some “girls” who were mathematicians , college grads, and I often would wonder the path they took to get there…. given the less than stellar performance
        of math in public schools these days. Most “normal” kids, boy or girl are not admirers of math and many revile it. One guy/gal in a class full of those type classmates is on a lonely journey.

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          And really very boring… it is better today as those type of math geniuses can access dual enrollment and accelerate into college level courses while still in high school.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            true, except that “math” makes the world go around… it’s embedded in virtually everything
            we do ….. and never really understood by most folks, many of whom don’t know how to
            balance a checkbook or compute their gas mileage when refueling…

          2. Not Today Avatar

            Or, they get lucky and have a parent for a math teacher/tutor, someone in their corner who knows enough to establish a strong foundation for deeper/higher levels of learning.

  3. What is most interesting is that there are multiple areas where boys and girls have similar success at learning. That gets us back to brain differences in the areas related to reading and writing, not education in general, or environment, or different teaching of girls by female teachers.

    I would suggest ADHD as a cause, it is predominately a male diagnosis, but then there are those equal levels of achievement in most areas.

    Curious.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Look at the section I added on Asian students.

      1. The Asian student results are dramatic, glad you added them. That has seemed to be largely cultural, although gray matter also seems to be a factor.

        Do Asian SOL scores show the same gender differences in reading and writing as all students? Is it really Asian girls who are far superior to all other English readers and writers? That would be notable!

        What is this “English Language Arts” nonsense? Are basic reading and writing English skills now an “Art”? Maybe that’s the issue, girls are better artists than boys. 🙂

        1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          ELA is the term used by VDOE, so I slavishly adopted it for their consumption. It is also easier than writing “reading and writing” in every paragraph.

          I have asked VDOE for the Asian students SOL scores disaggregated by sex. If they have it, they will send it to me and I will publish it.

          If – and we’ll see I think – the gaps are not maintained in Asian students, then the brain science effects are called into question and we need to find out how the Asian kids do it.

          1. Not Today Avatar

            Are you seriously suggesting that there’s something in the Asian gene pool that makes them immune vs. everyone else? Eugenics anyone? No. The Asian population is not a monolith. The category is made up of wealthy and highly intelligent immigrants who are sent here and/or win the immigration lottery and Pacific Island immigrants who don’t, and everything in between. Did you bother to tease out the generation of the Asian family and/or their income, you’d see the same discrepancies, albeit perhaps to a lesser degree, we see elsewhere.

          2. Not Today Avatar

            Are you seriously suggesting that there’s something in the Asian gene pool that makes them immune vs. everyone else? Eugenics anyone? No. The Asian population is not a monolith. The category is made up of wealthy and highly intelligent immigrants who are sent here and/or win the immigration lottery and Pacific Island immigrants who don’t, and everything in between. Did you bother to tease out the generation of the Asian family and/or their income, you’d see the same discrepancies, albeit perhaps to a lesser degree, we see elsewhere.

  4. As Richard Reeves states: when schools stop discriminating against girls, it was thought that girls and boys would begin to perform equally. Instead, the girls raced past the boys. One thought is to red shirt more boys and have them start first grade later so that the girls do not gain as much advantage in middle school with the performance gaps really grow. Also, families have to emphasize that the economy functions on knowledge and that boys being boys is no excuse.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      It is a complicated subject.

      1. Not Today Avatar

        Yes. The nature of schools (requiring too little hands-on instruction and too much lecture/video) and the demand for compliance/stillness affects ADHD girls like my oldest too. The HUGE increase in the demand for oral and written/explanatory language skills in subjects that require discrete/accurate answers is also problematic.

        1. One can reveal one’s generation by the use of the idea that there are discrete answers to questions. In the 21st century, more people make their living by modeling/estimating to get an answer from politics to investing to logistics to the environment. Yet, schools are still teaching the idea that the train travels 60 miles (why miles) per hour with no variation.

          It is like the difference between how School House Rock described how Congress works versus how it actually works. At lower grades we teach kids the wrong answers and hope to correct it later.

          1. Not Today Avatar

            The problem is that a lot of students never learn to master basic operations which DO, in fact, have right and wrong answers, because they only ever estimate and model.

          2. Yet, schools are still teaching the idea that the train travels 60 miles (why miles) per hour with no variation.

            Well, you’re the one who repeatedly tells us that not everyone can learn calculus…

          3. The STEM magnet schools have moved probability and statistics to 9th grade so that the students can learn enough to do better when conducting experiments and demonstrations. One can learned applied statistics without being able to master calculus. But with many people having nativation in their car these days, parents and their children should see arrival times depend upon more than a set rate of speed and a distance.

  5. There are obviously many factors, but children raised by single parents is a major one. And since most of those homes lack a father, it impacts boys in school. (Girls are also negatively impacted, but it impacts them differently.)

    Looking back, I eventually saw this in my own life. My father left while I was in high school. A few months after he left my mother went to an open house. One of my teachers pulled my mother aside, looked her straight in the eye, and said two words:

    “What happened?”

    Why Two Parents Are the Ultimate Privilege
    Half of American babies are born to unmarried mothers. And those with two parents, Melissa Kearney argues, have an immense advantage.

    Two parents combined have more resources than one. Two parents in a home bring in the earnings—or at least the earnings capacity—of two adults. And so, in a very straightforward way, we see that kids growing up in single-mother homes are five times more likely to live in poverty than kids growing up in married parent homes. (Kids in single-father homes are three times as likely to live in poverty.)

    Another set of resources that we have a lot of evidence on is there’s more “emotional bandwidth” (and less stress) in households that have two parents as compared to one. We see in the data that married parents are less likely to resort to spanking and harsher parenting. They’re more likely to report having strong, nurturing bonds with their kids. We also see that kids from two-parent households are less likely to have behavioral issues. They’re more likely to reach educational milestones. They’re less likely to get in trouble with the law. All things that set them up to be in a better position to thrive in life.

    https://www.thefp.com/p/why-two-parents-are-the-ultimate-privilege

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      I added a section on Asian students. I recommend it.

      1. The problem is that the Asian students in Virginia are not a cross section of all Asians. They are mainly Korean and Chinese and have parents who came here as knowledge workers.

        1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          Not correct.
          Here are the Census Bureau stats:

          The largest Asian American ancestries in Virginia are:

          Indian American, 125,000 or 1.51% of the population
          Filipino American, 72,600 or 0.9% of the population
          Korean American, 70,000 or 0.83% of the population
          Chinese American, 69,000 or 0.82% of the population
          Vietnamese American, 60,000 or 0.72% of the population
          Pakistani American, 33,000 or 0.4% of the population

          1. the Indiana Americans are even more knowledge workers than the Koreans are. Most of the Indians are from the top castes.

    2. how_it_works Avatar
      how_it_works

      ” And so, in a very straightforward way, we see that kids growing up in single-mother homes are five times more likely to live in poverty than kids growing up in married parent homes.”

      Especially if the single mother waits till the family moves to high-cost-of-living Northern Virginia to divorce, and the dad didn’t get a raise commensurate with that cost of living when the family moved.

      Free and reduced price lunches, here we come. Two kids and a mom in a 2-bedroom apartment, here we come.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        does that mean BOTH a single parent at birth AND… two parents divorced?

        IOW… is it purely single parent no matter how it happened?

        1. how_it_works Avatar
          how_it_works

          The financial hardships of being a single parent exist in both situations, unless, in the divorce case, dad has enough surplus income.

          At a minimum, in the case of a divorce, the additional mortage/rent for a place for mom and the kids to live is an expense that didn’t exist prior.

        2. how_it_works Avatar
          how_it_works

          The financial hardships of being a single parent exist in both situations, unless, in the divorce case, dad has enough surplus income.

          At a minimum, in the case of a divorce, the additional mortage/rent for a place for mom and the kids to live is an expense that didn’t exist prior.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            In the case where the single parent is well-educated, a professional with a good income…
            different?

          2. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            In that case there isn’t the financial hit, but there’s certainly still an emotional one. That’s one reason why some parents stay together “for the kids”.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            but the divorce rate is about 50%. Any difference between single parent and two-parent if the parent(s) have good educators and high incomes?

            Does the kid living with divorced mom who is high income have a disadvantage compared to
            kids with two parents and high income?

          4. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I think there is a disadvantage for kids living with a single mom even if she has a high income, compared to two parents with high income. I think the disadvantage is more acute for boys who live with a single mom than girls who live with a single mom.

          5. LarrytheG Avatar

            Boys who live with single dad?

          6. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            That’s not a common situation. But dads can relate to their sons in a way that moms can’t. Personal experience–I saw that quite a bit in the 2 years before my dad passed away. I’m thankful that I got that time.

          7. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            That’s not a common situation. But dads can relate to their sons in a way that moms can’t. Personal experience–I saw that quite a bit in the 2 years before my dad passed away. I’m thankful that I got that time.

          8. LarrytheG Avatar

            Yep. Dad got divorced and left and Mom remarried a car salesman….who had his own son and like to physically assert himself… , no the best thing… but not uncommon at all…

  6. James C. Sherlock Avatar
    James C. Sherlock

    The comments on this article are as serious as the subject matter. Thanks to all.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Not to let that go unchallenged… a blast from the past that explains learning difficulties generation over generation.
      https://www.tiktok.com/@_spruck/video/7309663828172688671?_r=1&_t=8iAE42lA8mB

      BTW, our ability to advance science in the Gen Z and Millennials beyond that of the Boomers and Greatest is not they are smarter, but the shotgun effect. The sheer numbers create the gain.

      1. how_it_works Avatar
        how_it_works

        This Gen-Xer grew up reading old science books from the school library that were obviously purchased for Boomers because they extensively covered VACUUM TUBES and barely covered solid-state electronics…this was in the 1980s.

      2. how_it_works Avatar
        how_it_works

        This Gen-Xer grew up reading old science books from the school library that were obviously purchased for Boomers because they extensively covered VACUUM TUBES and barely covered solid-state electronics…this was in the 1980s.

        1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
          James Wyatt Whitehead

          Remember programming the Commodore Vic 20? How many hours of human life were wasted on this hopeless machine that did so little?
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHJeQlGrTpQ

          1. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I had a Tandy 1000EX (an IBM-PC compatible), so I programmed in Microsoft’s GW-BASIC.

            Did a little programming in Apple BASIC, too (for Computer Math class)….on the Apple II GS.

            As I recall the Vic 20 and Commodore 64 required the use of a lot of peeks and pokes and maybe even machine language routines to make use of it’s graphics and sound capabilities.

            That wasn’t necessary on the Tandy 1000 EX, the GW-BASIC that Tandy supplied for it supports the 3-voice sound and 16-color Tandy video mode (which is the same as the IBM PCjr 16-color mode, as I found out later).

          2. Not Today Avatar

            Ah…the Apple IIE… Queue ‘Memories’.

          3. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            The Apple II GS is a design about 10 years newer than the Apple IIE. Most schools didn’t have software that took advantage of the increased capabilities of the Apple II GS, which has much better graphics and sound capability, as well as a 16-bit CPU and more RAM. They’d have saved money buying the Apple IIE instead, which stayed in production until 1993.

          4. LarrytheG Avatar

            You’re a man of wide and deep knowledge on a variety of subjects!

        2. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Vacuum tubes will survive EMP.

          1. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I’ve always wondered what would happen if you put a vacuum tube in a microwave oven…and turned it on..

            …lightbulbs do some interesting things in there…

          2. So will points and condensers…

          3. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Your 1975 Ford tractor will be fun to drive on empty roads.

          4. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            I’ve always wondered what would happen if you put a vacuum tube in a microwave oven…and turned it on..

            …lightbulbs do some interesting things in there…

          5. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            The only things I’ve put in a microwave for effect are a grape and a CD. I can imagine a florescent bulb would glow.

          6. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            The only things I’ve put in a microwave for effect are a grape and a CD. I can imagine a florescent bulb would glow.

          7. how_it_works Avatar
            how_it_works

            A regular bulb will glow, too, with various colors. At least till it gets too hot and the glass pops.

          8. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Unlike most American males, I have lost complete interest in things that explode… except the Exploding Whale. That I can watch over and over.

  7. Kathleen Smith Avatar
    Kathleen Smith

    James, you didn’t mention special education where there is also more males enrolled in specific learning disabilities. I’ll look it up and get back to you.

  8. Not Today Avatar

    You want to apply DEI principles (considering who’s disadvantaged using data, examine why, and try to find solutions)? WOOT!! WE AGREE! Never let it be said that I cannot find common ground. I have no real interest in blaming men for their lack of academic achievement. I don’t think boys and men are less intelligent.

    It’s long been clear to me that academic SYSTEMS are failing men and boys. We ought to examine and care about why that is just as much as we ought to examine and care why SYSTEMS are failing low-income youth who are predominantly black and brown, and why medical SYSTEMS are failing pregnant women, infants and children. Look at you, James, a budding DEI practitioner!

    Your speculative ideas re:causation are worthless but the data on achievement discrepancy is real. This is progress!

    Also, what does it mean to act like a boy? Do you know? I mean that honestly. If ‘boy’ behavior is disfavored in academia, and I think it is, what are those behaviors? Stop projecting culture war opinion and stick to demonstrable facts. Surely those ‘boy’ (I’d prefer the term disfavored) behaviors are demonstrated by girls too.

    1. How does one separate the idea that boys are less intelligent than girls with the idea that girls just mature earlier than boys and thus have a huge advantage in middle school.

      Also, image boys in elementary school where virtually all of the teachers are female having teachers who believe that boys are genetically inclined to be dumber than girls.

      One may want to read the book “Of Boys and Men” to gain some more insight on the issue.

      1. Not Today Avatar

        How does that jive with the fact that boys haven’t been disadvantaged academically relative to girls until third wave feminism began empowering women and girls. Structurally, the systems in place for most of human history allowed men and boys to thrive.

        1. 1954 was the first year that more than 50% of 19 y/o were high school graduates. By 1980 females were a majority of college students in the U.S. So the window when women can complain that they were being hurt in school is not that great.

          1. Not Today Avatar

            I can’t take this comment seriously. Academia started in *checks notes* 1954?

          2. I never understand people who think they are clever my intentionally misunderstanding something. It is hard to claim that schools worked for males when more than 50% of those males ever finished high school. Schools have never worked for anyone. There was a short time period when one can claim that schools might have worked better for males than females in the 1960’s (except for the draft) and the 1970’s. By the end of the 70’s women were the majority of high school graduates and majority of college students.

          3. Not Today Avatar

            Again, you say this is if schools were ever designed to work for all. They performed the work they were required to do, sorting people into jobs and a racial/social hierarchy based on the needs and preferences of those in power. That did not include women. My own belief is that men/boys have academic muscle atrophy as a result of patriarchy, that they too have been harmed by long-term exposure to the mistaken belief that their power and dominance was the result of merit and not systems of privilege.

          4. Not Today Avatar

            Again, you say this is if schools were ever designed to work for all. They performed the work they were required to do, sorting people into jobs and a racial/social hierarchy based on the needs and preferences of those in power. That did not include women. My own belief is that men/boys have academic muscle atrophy as a result of patriarchy, that they too have been harmed by long-term exposure to the mistaken belief that their power and dominance was the result of merit and not systems of privilege.

          5. Not Today Avatar

            Again, you say this is if schools were ever designed to work for all. They performed the work they were required to do, sorting people into jobs and a racial/social hierarchy based on the needs and preferences of those in power. That did not include women. My own belief is that men/boys have academic muscle atrophy as a result of patriarchy, that they too have been harmed by long-term exposure to the mistaken belief that their power and dominance was the result of merit and not systems of privilege.

          6. First, if one wants to discuss how schools screwed over boys, look at how algebra I has been moved from the ninth grade in the 1970’s to the seventh grade in the 2020’s. Power all of the STEM classes to lower grades is a huge benefit to girls and one of the reason that females make up 60% of college students.

            However, if one wants to discuss something that does adversely affect boys, lets discuss Little League. What most males learn in LIttle League is not teamwork, or practice makes perfect or to try all out. What most boys learn is that if one is not a natural and better then the other boys on the first day of practice, then one should quit. Whereas in schools, sports, music, etc, girls learn to find the path of least resistance. That is also why majors like social work, nursing, elementary education are overwhelmingly female.

          7. Not Today Avatar

            Wow. Just…wow. “Girls learn to find the path of least resistance.” Tell us how you really feel? Those majors are and have been overwhelmingly female because they were among the few ‘caring/helping’ careers open to women from the turn of the 19th century onward, not because they were or are lesser/easier. Try, ‘women and girls learned to ADAPT and NAVIGATE and ACHIEVE despite obstacles’. It reads much less misogynistic.

            Most kids take Algebra in 8th (as both of mine did) and 9th grades…STILL.

            I don’t know where you’ve been for the last 25 years but little league is dying with only the admission of girls helping it out. Kids are playing SOCCER in droves, which allows all to participate and, wait for it, work as a team. https://www.axios.com/2021/08/05/little-league-participation-down-world-series
            https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Native/Isos/2023/March.aspx

            In the immortal words of Jennifer Gray/”Baby”, “Have you known many women?” blink….blink.

    2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      You should’ve seen the history my boys learned playing Assasin’s Creed…

      1. Not Today Avatar

        Probably as much as I learned reading lengthy period/historical romance novels. There are lots of ways to reach kids where they are.

  9. LarrytheG Avatar

    Maybe for another threat but interesting:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/220f565ac066dcaa46cae7fa6d97e47bf81845059c487d8cc8ed1c7c6b5b3d39.png

    Students around the world suffered historic setbacks in reading and math during the COVID-19 pandemic, with declines in test scores so widespread that the United States climbed in global rankings simply by falling behind less sharply, a new study finds.

    The state of global education was given a bleak appraisal in the Program for International Student Assessment, the first study to examine the academic progress of students in dozens of countries during the pandemic. Released Tuesday, it finds the average international math score fell by the equivalent of three-quarters of a year of learning. Reading scores fell by the equivalent of half a year.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2023/12/05/pisa-scores-show-student-declines-math-reading-science/71809186007/

    The setbacks spanned nations rich and poor, big and small, with few making progress. In the countries where students were tested, a quarter are now considered low performers in math, reading and science, meaning they struggle to perform basic math problems or interpret simple texts.

    1. Not Today Avatar

      This is true but women have been running circles around boys and men academically for 20+ years now. They surpass men in degree attainment in nearly every field and have for decades. It’s to the point that, in my line of work, men are affirmative action hires and are rarely as qualified or competent as the women they’re hired to supervise. No one wants to talk about it but finding men to diversify the degreed workforce is hard.

    2. Not Today Avatar

      This is true but girls and women have been running circles around boys and men academically for 20+ years now. They surpass men in degree attainment in nearly every field and have for decades. It’s to the point that, in my line of work, men are affirmative action hires and are rarely as qualified or competent as the women they’re hired to supervise. No one wants to talk about it but finding men to diversify the degreed workforce is hard.

      ALSO, toxic masculinity is a REAL thing. It’s what tells men they’re ENTITLED to women’s devotion/loyalty, dates, friendship, love and notice whether it is freely offered/given or not. It’s that thing that tells some men that women and girls cannot refuse to bear their children. It’s that thing that inspires men to declare some classes “male classes”. It’s that thing that makes men need to declare superiority with brute force/demand obeissance vs. demonstrate leadership/secure cooperation and inspire followership.

      Both things are true.

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