Blacks Don’t Always Think the Way White Cultural Elites Think They Do

by James A. Bacon

Governor Glenn Youngkin’s popularity in Virginia was the top-line story from a new Virginia Commonwealth University poll. The survey, published yesterday, found that 49% of Virginians polled approve of his job as governor compared to 38% who disapprove. It’s not surprising to see his popularity holding up so well. Virginians tend to be favorably disposed toward governors not caught up in scandal, and Youngkin is no exception.

The more interesting data from the poll was buried in the VCU press release. Two points stand out: attitudes of Blacks toward taxes, and attitudes of Whites toward Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs).

Leaving the plantation on taxes. Youngkin’s tax cut on gas is more popular among African-Americans than the electorate as a whole. The three-month elimination of the motor vehicles fuel tax garnered a 58% approval rating from all Virginians but 76% from Blacks. (Elimination of the state portion of the grocery tax was broadly popular across the partisan divide, with seven out of ten Virginians in favor. VCU did not break out the results for Blacks on that question.)

Virginians were fairly evenly split on what to do with Virginia’s surplus tax revenue. Overall, Virginians narrowly preferred to use the surplus for government programs “such as welfare programs or state-funded clean energy projects.” Needless to say, Democrats generally favored (68%) government programs, while Republicans generally favored (62%) a $250 tax rebate option. Here’s what startled me: 54% of Blacks favored the $25o rebate. Let that sink in: a majority of Blacks would take tax rebates over new welfare programs.

Blacks long have been a core constituency of the tax-and-spend party, but in Virginia now, they back tax cuts, at least if the tax cuts benefit them directly. They’re less enthusiastic about government programs and clean energy than Whites are. Educated, “progressive” Whites in the Democratic Party are driven by ideological causes. Most Blacks, I would postulate, are motivated by kitchen-table issues at odds with the progressive agenda. Whites drone on about “environmental justice” and “social justice” on everything from taxes to schools to crime, but a lot of Blacks aren’t buying it.

The nation is, as often argued on this blog, undergoing a tectonic shift in political loyalties. On one side we have the cultural/political elites and their welfare-state wards, and on the other side we have the working class and middle classes. It is in the political interest of the ruling elites to divide the nation by race and ethnicity because it benefits them at the polls. But most Americans, of all races and ethnicities, aren’t looking for a “progressive” racial utopia, they just want everyone to get along, and to see day-to-day improvement in their lives and a better life for their kids.

More support for HCBUs. In another interesting finding, the VCU poll revealed that 79% of Virginians support efforts to fund Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HCBUs). Support was highest among Democrats (94%) but hefty among Republicans, too (69%). Not surprisingly, Blacks overwhelmingly approve of the idea (96%), but support by other groups, including Whites, was very strong.

Virginia has four HBCUs — Norfolk State University, Hampton University, Virginia State University, and Virginia Union University — and they are in trouble. Collectively, their enrollment declined 8.6% between the 2016/17 academic year and the 2020/21 year, according to State Council of Higher Education for Virginia data. That compares to a 15.7% increase in enrollment for Virginia’s private four-year colleges and a 3.0% increase for public four-years.

There are multiple possible explanations for the HCBU decline: from smaller graduating high school classes to financial hardship for Black households during the COVID pandemic. Here’s one you’re not likely to hear much about: increased competition from bigger, better-funded public universities. Literally every university in Virginia wants to increase its admissions of “under-represented” minorities. There are only so many college-bound Black kids to go around. If more are heading to Virginia Commonwealth University, Virginia Tech or the University of Virginia, that’s fewer to enroll in the HCBUs.

The big draw of HBCUs in the past was that they were, by their very nature, a hospitable and welcoming place for Black students. But every other university is striving to make itself welcoming to minorities as well. The HBCUs’ greatest competitive edge is eroding.

Here’s a wild and crazy thought: HCBUs may have a competitive advantage they may not fully recognize. As Virginia’s big public universities get increasingly “woke,” they are becoming intellectual monocultures. Students and faculty with conservative and moderate views feel increasingly stifled in an environment dominated by progressive ideologies. But HCBUs have nothing to apologize for. It makes no sense to accuse them of “systemic racism,” “white privilege” isn’t an issue on campuses with few Whites, and leadership has no need to engage in virtue signaling. HCBUs may well offer more intellectual diversity than the mainstream institutions, and may allow students to feel freer to express themselves. As polls repeatedly show, Blacks are more conservative on a wide range of issues — taxes, schools, crime, and culture wars — than progressive White elites. Perhaps there is a future for HCBUs as havens from wokeness.


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41 responses to “Blacks Don’t Always Think the Way White Cultural Elites Think They Do”

  1. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    HBCUs historically gave good educations to blacks when they couldn’t get them elsewhere…
    Maybe going back to their roots and giving a good education, not a woke one, would be a magnet. A Black Hillsdale!
    So crazy, it might work. And then they’ll attract white students!
    https://youtu.be/4weT5FVv_Hs

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Good grief!!! “gave good educations to blacks when they couldn’t get them elsewhere.” HBCUs became lost to woke and maybe can be found again? More insane is a “Black Hillsdale.” Between the lines says Blacks are out of touch with their roots says a Wizard of Ooze.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        Indeed – where HBCUs actually came from and why….

        and one does wonder if Blacks had trouble getting k-12 educations where did the higher ed HBCJ professors get THEIR educations as many colleges – even UVA, and Virginia Tech would not admit blacks.

        1. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          And your point Larry is…?

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            Just a question, how did the professors who taught at HBCUs get THEIR college if schools like UVA and Tech would not admit them?

          2. YellowstoneBound1948 Avatar
            YellowstoneBound1948

            Larry, we forget how large the nation is. There were quite a few colleges outside of the South that did admit Blacks. George Washington Carver, who spent decades at Tuskegee, earned his degrees at Iowa State, just for an example.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            If southern blacks did not get a public k-12 education, then how would they qualify for Iowa State and similar?

            How did they get their education – enough that they COULD go to college and if Iowa State admitted them did they admit under-qualified compared to white folks?

          4. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Larry – what the H3!! is your stupid point? That blacks WERE discriminated against? DUH!
            VUU was formed in 1865 I believe. How did white kids get educated prior to our wonderful public school system?
            When did Brown v Board happen?
            When was the Civil Rights Act passed?
            When will you quit being the white savior racist and thinking blacks are inferior and need your help to succeed?
            Do you believe in MLK judge by content of character, or are you literally a racist making judgments on skin color?

        2. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          Larry – there were Black students at UVa when I got there on August 16, 1977. Those students would be at least 63 year olds now.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            when?

            ” When did UVA start accepting black students?
            September 1958: Leroy Willis, a black undergraduate, enters the University of Virginia in the school of Engineering he will go on to be the first black to transfer and desegregate the College of Arts & Sciences.”

            1968
            Philip Wilkerson Jr., center front, stands amid a sea of white faces. One of five black students admitted to the Virginia Military Institute in 1968, Wilkerson became commander of F Company, shown here.

            The TC Williams school in NoVa . Was the namesake a segregationist?

      2. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        As usual, confirming my instincts are correct.
        Thanks for the substantive response.
        So…HBCUs did not give good educations to blacks when they couldn’t get them elsewhere?
        What is wrong with an HBCY emulating Hillsdale?
        And reading the race thing backwards, as usual, cuz that’s all you guys do – the concept was to have HBCUs go hard to their historical hard education roots.

        1. YellowstoneBound1948 Avatar
          YellowstoneBound1948

          Union General Oliver O. Howard was instrumental in founding Howard University about 1867. The University for many years was called the “Black Harvard.” Now it has competition (for academic reputation) from Tuskegee, Tennessee State, and a host of others. Some — like Fisk — have been on the bubble a long time. I think it is clear that these colleges were founded to give Blacks a shot at a superior education in the absence of opportunity at schools like West Point. West Point admitted its first Black cadet in the 1870s, and then only a very few in the next 50 years. The Black colleges stepped into the breach.++

          1. LarrytheG Avatar
            LarrytheG

            How many black colleges did white folks in the south help create for black folks?

            bonus question:
            when did UVA and Tech and VMI admit their first blacks?

            in the 1870’s?

      3. YellowstoneBound1948 Avatar
        YellowstoneBound1948

        Relax, James.

    2. WayneS Avatar

      Why is a “Black Hillsdale” needed?

      Is something stopping Blacks from simply attending Hillsdale?

      1. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        No. But if HBCUs are to continue…and have the B in HBCU in their names, then maybe emulating Hillsdale would be a good model.
        I know it scares lefties horribly that black students might not get an educational diet of woke doctrine and grievance and come to their own conclusions (like the Judeo Christian worldview is great and produced a great world, compared to all the rest)…

        1. WayneS Avatar

          Good point.

        2. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Once again into the abyss of inanity. H and B together are the significant components. Rubbish to state the J-C worldview produced a great world. The J-C ethos was preceded by centuries of civilizations and accomplishments. That woke conservative warrior trash is beer talk.

          1. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Oh…ok…says the guy who said not to be lukewarm on climate zealotry. Which is typical for someone who tries to separate and deny the reality of the Judeo Christian worldview and that Western Civ sprang from it (and is necessary to it).
            It’s like all the people who don’t like a Christian stating a belief, like homosexuality is wrong, and the Lib will respond “Judge not.”
            I’ll spare you the great harm to your psyche by putting in the full statement, in context, but will note the belief censors are judging by trying to stop the Christian from expressing his opinion, cuz, of course, the Lib is smarter and morally superior (in his own mind). That is a toxic mix of hubris.

  2. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    I’ve often wondered why corporations don’t recruit more aggressively at HSBUs. In the 90s I was the recruiting lead for my employer at Howard University. There were a lot of exceptional student-candidates and limited competition from other big tech firms.

    There are far too few Black executives in technology. Lots of Asians but very few Blacks. The answer to that issue, in my opinion, is recruiting a lot of entry-level Black college graduates (including, perhaps, associate degree holders) and letting them rise through the corporate ranks. HBCUs are a great place to find well qualified Black student-candidates.

    1. YellowstoneBound1948 Avatar
      YellowstoneBound1948

      DJ, did you encounter the future VP on your trips to Howard? The history of Howard’s establishment is quite interesting.

    2. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      uh.. doing that would be “woke”, no? Especially if said blacks were not the “best” equivalent to whites and Asians, right?

    3. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      uh.. doing that would be “woke”, no? Especially if said blacks were not the “best” equivalent to whites and Asians, right?

  3. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    813 respondents with a margin of error of 5.8% is hardly much to cheer about especially distinctions in views by race. Too much cheering on an item of questionable veracity. Needs more context before pronouncing Youngthing is a national candidate.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Jim reached his conclusions. Governor Wilder has made his own pronouncements. I stayed away from all that and just shared the document so each of you can make up your own minds. 🙂 One thing I really like about this medium, the ability to link so much background.

  4. Rafaelo Avatar

    Everybody or at least the vast majority loves Historically Black Colleges and Universities? Why? Please articulate the argument.

    HBCU: a euphamism for segregated. The old mandatory segregation: bad. New voluntary segregation: good?

    More comfortable to be with our own tribe, sure.

    I just wonder whether youth should deal with discomfort? While still educable. Open themselves to a larger tribe.

    I am speaking of a healthy, successfully integrated society in general. You wanna talk granular level success, the career arc?

    Ugly truth: so much is about Who You Know. That is why Plessy v. Ferguson was a lie: separate was never equal. Ever. Classmates; friends from Yale, Harvard, Columbia, vs. Morehouse. Which is the power-Rolodex?

    Yet HBCU’s have approval ratings way up in the 80’s and 90’s. I want to know the argument for self-segregation which goes beyond “I feel more comfy.”

    1. YellowstoneBound1948 Avatar
      YellowstoneBound1948

      That is a good question (your last paragraph)

    2. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      I’ll give my center-right answer ….

      Many neighborhoods are still very segregated. In the segregated Black neighborhoods the Black children grow up and attend school with many other Black children. Some of those children will go off to college. It is very jarring to grow up in a neighborhood that’s almost all Black and then head to UVa where Black students make up 6.5% of the student body. 17 and 18 year olds growing up in a 93% Black neighborhood now go to a college that is 93% non-Black.

      Some young people prefer to attend college in an environment similar to that in which they grew up.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        You mean like white folks and their suburban neighborhoods?

        I don’t think black folks living in a low-income neighborhood with their kids going to a school that has SOL reading scores in the 50’s are there to be with “their own kind”.

        do you?

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          He do. He just said so.

    3. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Opposition to “discomfort” was essential in Florida to scare CRT advocates. Discomfort which is often a function of discovery in the educational process is unacceptable in DeSantis World.

  5. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    So, who from BR is attending CPAC to hear Orbán and write lovingly about his condemnation of “mixed race” nations?

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      secret ballot?

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        They ALL are.

  6. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SOYJoIsqsabocGAf7QagcRHgRjZc-a5e/view

    I’m trying to train him folks, I really am. There is a link to the poll. These stories are worthless unless that is shared, unless you the reader can see the sample and read the questionnaire. This one seems fairly benign. But notice they have moved beyond “male or female” in the demographics, it being VCU after all. Of 812 interviews, four transgender, 1 “intersex” (whatever that is) and 0 “non-binary.” Gee, six tenths of one percent. Given all the media hype and political posturing, you’d think it more?

    Virginia State had and I assume still has a pretty good pipeline from its engineering school to the shipyard, coops, internships, etc. It started under the same land grant status as VA Tech so has an E school.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar
      LarrytheG

      I would think that a “good” poll would be demographically representative.

      Not easy to do but it goes to your point about methodology. Always look for the methodology and when it’s missing or vague.. grain-of-salt time.

      1. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        Sometimes you pull a sample and it’s off. You can see too many women, too many Rs, or too many from one region. Then the choice is, pull more names or fudge it with some weighting. ‘Tis art and science.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar
          LarrytheG

          Yep. One poll, even a good one is not necessarily the truth from on high and too many folks find “a” poll they “like” and that becomes their “truth”.

          The idea that someone would rather have the money instead of the entitlement…

          kinda funny…

          I wonder if that means JAB supports the Basic Income concept instead of entitlements?

          or if the govt gives you money just “because”, isn’t that also an entitlement?

          How many folks see the “stimulus” payments as “entitlements”?

          Yes… people will take “stimulus” all day long…

          not rocket science…and don’t need no poll to show that.

    2. Thanks for providing the crosstabs, Steve.

      In furtherance of my thesis, 77% of Blacks support elimination of the state sales tax on groceries compared to 68% of Whites.

      More Blacks than Whites support the idea of laboratory schools (by a small margin).

      Almost 44% of Blacks strongly or somewhat approve of Youngkin’s performance.

      1. Ken Reid Avatar
        Ken Reid

        all this I do not doubt. However, African Americans have long held conservative beliefs — for example, on gay marriage and immigration. However, when it comes to voting, they stick with the Democrats by 94 percent in presidential elections, and 73% in 2021 (Virginia exit polls) .https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2021/exit-polls-virginia-governor/ I’ve had numerous discussions with experts on this and especially black Republicans and the reason for this is 3 fold. First, peer pressure. It is very very difficult for blacks to vote for a Republican, depending on the community they live especially when ministers, community leaders and local politiciasn who are black are out there beating the hustings for votes all the time.. Second, GOP messaging and statements leave a bad taste in teh mouths of many black voters, and Democrats are very good at exploiting them in campaigns. Third, symbolism. Sadly, a huge number of african american voters care more about whether the candidate “feels their pain}”than delivers results like help for HBCUs. In essence, black voters like Jewish voters do not vote their interests, but their utopian fantasies.. To vote Republican woud be “selfish” and both black and Jewish voters want to be seen as “selfless” when they vote. So, they glom on to the most utopian socialists they can find who tickle their fancies, especially candidates who support CRT, tearing down Confederate monuments,renaming buildings and streets and backing holidays like Juneteenth. AND, they LOVE it when someone is “going to make history” if elected. Had selfish Terry McAuliffee not run, thereby allowing Mark Herring or Jennifer McLellan to be the nominee, and Jay Jones as AG , i truly believe the 2021 results would have been reverse.

  7. ChicaSantana Avatar
    ChicaSantana

    One problem with government programs is that they are limited in scope and have fluctuating funding. If you qualify for assistance, these changes have huge negative impacts and blindside people in government programs. I am not surprised by the preference that African Americans have when asked whether they would prefer cash or government programs in the poll above.

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