Are RINOs an Endangered Species?

Gov. Timothy M. Kaine is expected to use his “state of the commonwealth speech” tonight to press for a financial solution to Virginia’s transportation woes. As Michael Hardy and Tyler Whitley explain the stakes in an article today:

The governor will pledge bipartisan cooperation, but he will challenge the lawmakers not to leave a second year in a row without addressing transportation funding,” said one administration source.

However muted the rhetoric, Democrat Kaine’s speech will sound the likely battle cry for this November’s elections for all 140 legislative seats.

By turning the transportation issue into an election rallying cry, Kaine has created an interesting — and under-reported — dynamic within the Republican Party. The first inkling I had popped up in correspondence with a General Assembly insider, who was communicating off the record, to the effect that the Senate “has to take any real deal” offered by the House of Delegates, “and they know it.”

How was that, I asked. Several soft-on-taxes Republican Senators will lose their primaries to aggressively low-tax challengers, my source responded. By contrast, for all the predictions that Democrats stand to make significant gains in the general elections, conservative Republicans in the House aren’t worried. None of them are facing primary challenges.

I don’t follow electoral politics. For details, consult Not Larry Sabato, the lead blogging source on Virginia election analysis. For purposes of this analysis, I am working off a summary provided by Virginia Free (Foundation for Research and Economic Education). Sens. Walter Stosch, R-Henrico, and Russell H. Potts, R-Winchester, face challenges from credible candidates. Sen. Emmett W. Hanger, R-Mount Solon, will be opposed by a potentially attractive but largely unknown conservative independent. By contrast, conservatives in the House are all running unopposed in their primaries. Their test will come in the general elections with the Democrats.

The races of interest:

  • Walter Stosch – Joe Blackburn. Stosch enjoys enormous advantages of name recognition, incumbency and a formidable warchest, but Blackburn has a strong base of support within the district. As Virginia Free notes: “Blackburn, a Richmond attorney, had a very successful and well-attended campaign kickoff late in 2006. Meanwhile, the Henrico County GOP elected Blackburn’s choice for local chairman, Sheriff Mike Wade, essentially delivering control of the local party apparatus to Blackburn. Stosch backed the opposition, losing in his home base of Henrico County, which comprises nearly the entire senate district. Blackburn has enlisted key advisors to former Governor Jim Gilmore to assist his effort, and he claims the endorsement of VCAP, the Virginia Conservative Action PAC.”
  • Russell Potts — Jill Holtzman Vogel — Mark Tate. The only thing that Russ Potts has going for him is that so many Republicans dislike him that two of them are running for his seat, thus splitting potential opposition. Tate came within 106 votes of unseating Potts in a 2003 primary — back when Potts still claimed to oppose taxes. After running as a pro-tax independent in the 2005 gubernatorial race, he has shredded any credibility with the party base. Potts has not declared whether he will run again. If he declines, he will leave the field to Tate and Vogel, both conservatives.
  • Emmett Hanger – Arin Sime. Hanger enjoys clear advantages of name recognition and incumbency. His opponent, Arin Sime, describes himself as a small government conservative: “pro-life, pro-gun, pro-school choice, pro-farmer, pro-property rights, pro-small business, anti-eminent domain abuse and anti-tax hikes.” A 1997 UVa grad, he owns a software development consulting firm. Sounds like a long shot to me. In a general election, Hanger would win the Democrats’ votes, enough to tilt the election in his favor in even most conservative of districts.

It’s still relatively early in the game, and other primary opposition may surface. I would be amazed if someone did not run against Sen. John H. Chichester, R-Northumberland, who promised four years ago to oppose taxes only to turn around soon after the election and propose a tax increase so massive that it dwarfed even the hikes favored by then-Gov. Mark R. Warner. Chichester has immeasurably more gravitas than Potts and is probably unbeatable — he won the primary handily in 2003 — but his duplicity angered many rank-and-file Republicans. He’s sure to inspire at least a kamikazi run against him.

Bottom line: Kaine had better watch out. Conservative Republicans aren’t buying the mantra that general taxes must be raised to solve Virginia’s transportation problems. The biggest casualties of making transportation the big election issue of 2007 may be Kaine’s Republican fellow travelers in the state Senate. As that awareness solidifies into conventional wisdom, who knows what the Senators might do to buff their conservative, anti-tax credentials in this session?


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24 responses to “Are RINOs an Endangered Species?”

  1. James Atticus Bowden Avatar
    James Atticus Bowden

    I am confident that we will have a candidate for His Lordship Sir John Chichester.

    I spoke to a fellow who is yet to commit to run against Ken Stolle, but could win.

    I’ve been asked by a number of people to run against Marty Williams, but I have two good reasons not to do so. Actually 3. So, we still need someone there.

    I asked Ed Gillespie when he was running the table on his Chairmanship for the RPV what his position was on challengers. He said that he would stay out of it. Good.

    He makes the point, which Lt Gov Bill Bolling repeats, about differences and divisions among Republicans, but never defines the twain. These primary challenges illustrate what a division is – when Republicans raise taxes and expand Government.

  2. E M Risse Avatar

    Todays Rinos may be indangered but after the 2011 election they will be back and we will be four more years away from a real solution.

    Today’s WaPo suggests that a deal will be cut to toss some money at the problem and go home. That will allow everyone to declair vistory and for Business-As-Usual to find a way to shoot down any “land use” legislation.

    That is why, in our current column, we call all plans on the table now “Incidious subterfuge.”

    EMR

  3. Anonymous Avatar

    RINOs are endangered because they are starting to become Democrats. More and more moderate Republicans are feeling unwelcome in the GOP and are slowly moving towards the Democratic party. Virginia is still a very conservative commonwealth. You could not have Tim Kaine and Jim Webb in office right now if RINOs weren’t moving over.

    I have to say that I strongly appreciate the extent to which you (Republicans) are making moderates feel unwelcome. Because as they slowly get absorbed into the Democratic party, they are making my party more conservative in all the right ways. You’re effectively giving me a party that balances budgets, stays out of big social issues and leaves me and my guns alone. This is a libertarian’s dream.

    The good news for you is that filling my party with conservatives is killing any far-left agendas in Virginia, leaving the radical left without any home whatsoever.

    So keep pushing them out! Threaten them in primaries! I want these legislators to go the same direction that so many of their constituents are. Switching parties.

  4. E M Risse Avatar

    Jack:

    Good points and that is why in 2011 …

    Both you and JAB are still stuck on the idea that somehow either of your partys can win without Fundamental Change.

    EMR

  5. James Atticus Bowden Avatar
    James Atticus Bowden

    Jack should define ‘moderate’.

    He is right that Virginia is neither R or D. It is 60:40 C. As NoVa grows that number changes to more L unless the new Virginians connect with some C ideas – like Judeo-Christian values, lower taxes, better education, etc.

    EMR: The Parties can win elections and will.

    If I understood what Fundamental Change is then maybe I would know whether my ideas on non-fundamental change or whatever are – by comparison.

    The closest I get to understanding EMRs rhetoric is that a lot of people need to live in very dense places in Virginia. Right?

  6. Reid Greenmun Avatar
    Reid Greenmun

    All RINOs should be hunted … shot … and mounted on the Conservative Trophy wall.

  7. Reid Greenmun Avatar
    Reid Greenmun

    Shhhhh! I’m hun-ting Winos.

    Elmer, don’tcha mean “Wabbits”?

    Naw, you know, doze spend like drunking sailor Winos?! I’m hunt’in dems!

    “Dems”?

    Yeah – same thing!

  8. nova_middle_man Avatar
    nova_middle_man

    Sorry for the random post I am having trouble organizing my thoughts.

    There are basically four kinds of political philosophy

    Increase Revenue Increase Spending
    Increase Revenue Decrease Spending
    Decrease Revenue Increase Spending
    Decrease Revenue Decrease Spending

    Before I begin let me say that I am a 4 but a realistic 4 🙂 Also I am a social libertarian.

    Most people are comfortable with number 1. Number 2 is poltical suicide but is sometimes needed to correct number 3 mortaging away the future and is what the federal republicans/Bush did when they were in power and arguably what Gilmore did when he was in power. Number 4 is what most fiscal republicans want to have happen.

    In Virginia there are propably some areas where a Number 4 could win and maybe even beat a Number 1. Many times social issues are used as an additional asset to propel a number 4.

    The moral of the story is in most places however you cannot win as a number 4. Most people want a larger government and are willing to pay for it. The anti-tax issue will not work in most areas and WILL NOT WORK STATEWIDE 🙂 Feel free to chime in and debate this.

    So are there enough realistic 4s. These people understand that government will increase but work to make government more efficient and to reduce the rate of government growth. This is why I like Bacons Rebellion blog 🙂 The realisic 4 also realizes that in some cases paying more money now will save more in the future. The realistic 4 has been known to support education, transportation, and many other things that have a net return on investment. Some realistic 4s expand return on investment beyond financial measures and support environmental action. The unifying theme is that there is tangible benefits for increased spending and that efficency is maximized.

    By doing so the realistic 4/1 sometimes has been called a RINO.
    To avoid this the realistic 4/1 must make the case that the spending is effective. Sometimes the realistic 4 becomes a realistic 1 after he is fed up with dealing with hardline 4s. However the realistic 4/1 often returns since the normal 1s want to increase government all the time in all areas.

    There are more districts where realistic 4s can win if they can successfully convey there message. I think it may be possible for a realistic 4 to win statewide but it would arguably take help from our social Republican bretheren.

    I would love to here a companion piece from a social Republican. Do most social republicans favor lower taxes and smaller government?
    Are social republicans upset with Bush and the Republican majority for there reckless fisacal policy?

    Sorry if this was a bit disjointed and thanks for the opportunity to share.

  9. Larry Gross Avatar
    Larry Gross

    yeah.. I’m confused…

    who were all those folks in NoVa and other urban areas in Va who voted for Warner, Webb and Kaine?

    I don’t know Webbs leaning with regard to Nova MM 1-2-3-4 scale but I think I know Warner and Kaines…

    I don’t know JABs 60-40 C mix… but are W,W and K in the 60% group?

    or … does the fact that Urban Va different demographics with respect to the rest of Va – NOT apply?

    bonus question – what if Chichester joins Kain? Does he then lose?

  10. Anonymous Avatar

    Dear Jim Bacon:

    The ugly, mean spirited attacks
    on this blog site is something
    you should take no pride about.

    God help us, if your stable of
    loyal writers ever got control
    of our government ….

    Rodger Provo
    Fredericksburg

  11. Anonymous Avatar

    NoVA MM – a couple of reactions. I would agree that there are a large number of people who would pay higher taxes for more services. I’d suggest, however that, IMO, there are many other people who want more services, but want the general taxpayers to pay.

    I’d toss large segments of the “active” Virginia business community in that class. I suspect that, had the real estate community and those who sell services locally, been willing to pay some higher fees, we would have seen transportation funding legislation years ago. What if the real estate industry in NoVA said “we’ll pay $5000 per new home and $XXX per 1000 square feet of new commercial, retail or industrial space” within the Virginia portion of Metro Washington? Similarly, what if the big Tysons Corner landowners had been willing to guarantee payment of the inevitable cost overruns for the Silver Line? Etc.

    I suspect that with a commitment such as this, the GA would have tacked on some fee and minor tax increases and we would have had funding a few years ago. But there is a greater chance that my teen-aged daughter will tell me that she really doesn’t need more spending money than there is for the “active” business community to offer their money. They prefer that the rest of pay. Remember my anecdote of the famous developer informing the peons in Richmond that it was their duty to pay for public facilities needed to support his building projects. IMO, he is not alone in his attitude.

    I would agree that a position of cutting taxes, except on a targeted basis, won’t generally sell. On the other hand, if transportation or education or health care, etc., were truly the top priority, I believe that many cuts in other spending could be made to deliver more money for the priorities. For example, if Gerry Connolly truly believed transportation is a high priority, why is Fairfax County spending $6.8 M annually to pay the Economic Development Authority’s advertising budget? Why will the County have spent more than $43 M (FY 2003-07) subsidizing land development and zoning service fees? If transportation is such a need, why not move money from some of these types of programs to transportation? Why is Elaine McDonnell voting just like Gerry on these programs?

  12. Larry Gross Avatar
    Larry Gross

    re: tax increases

    1. a very hard sell outside of NoVa/HR especially in economically distressed rural areas not only from residents but from commercial/retail communities.

    2. Unless the 2002 Referenda voter sentiment in NoVa/HR has changed – the only increased taxes they are going to support is one’s that are not only restricted in use to their Regions but also specific projects.

    As noted – the Northern Va Transportation Authority was created in 2002 on the PREMISE that voters would approve the Transporation Referenda to give it funds….

    would a second run at the same concept be different?

    3. Unless the primary law is changed (efforts to do so ARE underway), Dems crossover to SAVE RHINOs. I know it happened in the Fredericksburg Area when there was a strong “No Tax” Pledge challenger and Dems mobilized “unofficially” to save the RHINO.

  13. Reid Greenmun Avatar
    Reid Greenmun

    I am a member of the kNOw Campaign from Tidewater that worked to defeat the YES Campaign from “Hampton Roads”.

    In addition to what was written here about the 2002 Referendum for raising the regional sales tax to pay for 6 “projects”, a significant factor in the defeat of the referendum was the ‘greed’ of the local business community to push a speculative economic development concept they call the third crossing instead of working to craft a ‘package’ of regional highway improvements and some meaningful passenger & commuter rail projects that would actually deliver commuter traffic congestion relief – and do so in far less time than the proposed 20 year construction schedule.

    The albatross that caused the Tidewater/Hampton Roads 2002 22% regional sales tax hike to crash and burn by a 2:1 margin was the whooping $4.4 Billion Dollar price tag on the “third crossing” boondoggle for the VPA – a economic development project that, according to Senate Bill 668 – would and could be the ONLY project ever built – and every cent of the tax hike could be used/spent on just that ONE boondoggle.

    The $2.5M “YES Campaign” business lobby and their “friends” in local gov. & the GA made the mistake of thinking that no citizens would actually READ THE BILL – and arrogantly thought that even if they did – they would not understand it.

    Surprise – thanks to the internet a whole lot of everyday folks read Senate Bill 668 – and they understoon what a bad bill it was.

    They also read the facts issued by the HRPDC and learned the truth – that being that after waiting around 20 years and spending over 10B tax dollars – the percentage of highway lane miles at LOS E-F (severe congestion at peak usage times) was only going to be reduced – at best – by 5% – a reduction that would be essentially unnoticed.

    The reason for this was that the port was going to clog up all the new highways with thousands of new trucks that we did not then have, nor do we have now.

  14. Anonymous Avatar

    Larry, It’s my recollection that federal Judge Henry Hudson ruled, at least in part, that open primaries under Virginia law violated constitutional rights of party members by forcing a party to let members of the other party help select the first party’s nominees. I’m not sure how this works without also having party registration. But, if my recollection is correct, Independents and Democrats could not vote in a GOP primary and Independents and Republicans could not vote in Democratic primary.

  15. James Atticus Bowden Avatar
    James Atticus Bowden

    Reid: The per cent in the 2002 plan decreased (based on more miles of road) but the actual number of miles of ‘congestion’ 2o years later INCREASED under their plan. (I was the kNOw Vice-Chair on The Peninsula).

    Rather than fight successful rearguard actions – help us find candidates to replace Ken Stolle and Chris Jones on your Southside. We still have time to win.

  16. nova_middle_man Avatar
    nova_middle_man

    Let’s see here

    Agreeded TMT you are a realistic 4 like me. There is some areas of the government that can be increased at a slower rate to pay for other areas at a higher rate instead of kneejerking to tax increases.

    Agreeded Larry more and more policy and party is being decided on where you live in an urban or more rural area. Where the majority of you guys live the areas are generally red and the incumbents are unopposed. More power to you to want a pure Red Republican

    Fairfax is purple trending blue and the effects are oozing into PW and Loudoun. This article is interesting. Pay attention to the map the red retreats further every election. Obviously it takes a differnt kind of Republican to win here

    http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/01/figuring_out_fa_1.html

    IMHO we can all united to find and support people to knock out Colgan Houck and Reynolds please. These red areas need an R instead of a D.

  17. Anonymous Avatar

    Dear Jim Bacon:

    I think you need to rename this blog site
    for it is not “Bacon’s Rebellion,” but
    instead the “GOP Conservative Rebellion
    Alliance….”

    Sincerely,

    Rodger Provo
    Fredericksburg

  18. Larry Gross Avatar
    Larry Gross

    re: “kNOw Campaign”

    I’m not very familiar with HR politics and dynamics.

    With regard to the 2002 Referenda – could you relate the central concerns of those who were opposed to the Referenda?

    Question #2 – The same folks who opposed the referenda….

    what do they support… want to see happen with regard to HR Transportation?

    And for the 2002 NoVa Referenda failure would be interested in hearing from folks familiar with that – in terms of why it failed.

    I think the fact that both Referenda went down – indicates that many people are NOT in favor of just More Money and don’t subscribe to the idea that the real problem was a “just” lack of money… or else voters would have approved them.

    In the meantime, in NoVa (I dunno about HR) – other referenda – WERE Approved.

    Why do I think this is important?

    I think it’s driving, in part, the “purplization” of NoVa/HR which involved GA HD/Senate races.

    In the case of NoVa (I dunno about HR) – I don’t think “tending BLUE” means support of traditional old-line tax and spend policies….

    It’s a different “kind” of blue.

    Wrong?

  19. Jim Bacon Avatar

    Rodger, Commentators of all political stripes are invited to interact at Bacon’s Rebellion. I hope you will continue to inject your viewpoint. The more voices the better.

  20. Jim Wamsley Avatar
    Jim Wamsley

    To match the four kinds of political philosophy, There are four ways to govern.

    Increase Revenue Increase Services
    Increase Revenue Decrease Services
    Decrease Revenue Increase Services
    Decrease Revenue Decrease Services

    This is a regional view. The taxpayers of Northern Virginia will vote for number one and three. They will not vote for two and four.

    The 2002 bond issue in northern Virginia was an example of two. More money for an outer beltway. No money for decreasing congestion. The outer beltway was put into the bond issue knowing there were two different voting blocks, a no vote from the environmentalists and a yes vote from the business community. The environmental community called the bond issue a two because there would be more congestion. The business community called the bond issue a one because more land could be developed. The two’s won.

  21. Reid Greenmun Avatar
    Reid Greenmun

    I have to get to work – so y’all are lucky this morning – I have to be brief:

    IRT:

    There are basically four kinds of political philosophy

    (1) Increase Revenue Increase Spending
    (2) Increase Revenue Decrease Spending
    (3) Decrease Revenue Increase Spending
    (4) Decrease Revenue Decrease Spending

    This set of options bothered me and I finally realized why – there is a strong number (5) missing.

    It is:

    (5) Reasonable revenue increases if needed – Reprioritize all spending and cut non-essetial spending to live within a reasonable budget before raising taxes

    Or, if you prefer:

    (5) Revenue increase as a last resort – reprioritize spending & cut non-essential spending

    This means that in the case of transportation, do away with the bogus TTF and let transportation needs compete with all other legitimate needs.

    I am a (5).

  22. Reid Greenmun Avatar
    Reid Greenmun

    To others that asked about HR, the 2002 referenum, and the kNOw campaign/YES Campaign – and as to what we kNOw Campaign folks do support (our solutions) – I will respond later. I have a project due for my one of my customers today that I must finish.

    Later,

    -Reid

  23. E M Risse Avatar

    This string started with a question about RINOs and drifted into the philosophy of governance.

    While I agree with Jim W about the sound bites that the voters from the northern part of Virginia will tend to support, governance requires much more than four or five superficial, overlapping options.

    There are no short stories in the real world. Short stories are, by definition, fiction.

    So long as some continue to confuse “Judeo-Christian values” with priciples of governance in a democracy, the rights of all citizens are in deep jeaporday and there is fertile ground for breeding terrorists.

    Personally, I wish there were more praticing Christians around then statements like “The closest I get to understinading EMR’s rhetoric is that a lot of people need to live in very dense places in Virginia. Right?” would be rare and have no place in discussion of governace or human settlement pattern.

    EMR

  24. James Atticus Bowden Avatar
    James Atticus Bowden

    EMR: I wish you would just answer my question – did I get the basis of fundamental human settlement pattern humma humma or not?

    The fact that I don’t understand your rhetoric is my fault.

    Re:”So long as some continue to confuse “Judeo-Christian values” with principles of governance in a democracy, the rights of all citizens are in deep jeaporday and there is fertile ground for breeding terrorists.” I will be glad to explain how cultures are the basis for civilizations which are the basis for Nations and societies (sub-cultures) later – not tonight after round trip to NoVa.

    It’s all about ideas. They have a history – a genealogy that can be traced. So the principles of governance in a democracy, or in a Republic like where we live, are inseparable from ideas that flow from the culture through the civilization through the nation and societies.

    If you, EMR, want to make a case for the rights of citizens being in jeopardy and creating a fertile ground for breeding terrorists based on Judeo-Christian values – then you are confusing the Methodist with Muslim. I, and many others, can explain the difference in 2007.

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