Another Sick Idea: Vaccine Passports for Domestic Travel

by Kerry Dougherty

Oh look. Rep. Don Beyer, a Virginia car dealer who served eight years as Virginia’s lieutenant governor and ran unsuccessfully for governor in 1997 against Jim Gilmore, is in the news. The congressman who represents the second-most Democratic district in the commonwealth — the 8th — has joined the Biden administration in trying to completely balkanize America into the vaxxed and unvaxxed.

As if Biden’s likely illegal mandates to force federal workers — excluding postal workers or members of congress — to be vaccinated wasn’t a strong enough start on a medical apartheid system in the U.S., Beyer wants to go full Fauci on the unvaxxed.

To that end, Beyer has introduced a bill that he’s dubbed “Safe Travel Act,” which would ban the unvaccinated from commercial flights and Amtrak unless they can produce a negative COVID test not more than 72 hours old.

This bill may be masquerading as a safety measure, but it is purely punitive.

Beyer introduced his proposed legislation knowing that study after study has shown that one of the safest places to be in this pandemic is a commercial jet. Like all of Biden’s heavy-handed edicts it also ignores the presence of 41 million Americans who have been infected with COVID-19 and who probably have antibodies that provide superior protection against the virus compared to vaccines.

It’s an unneeded measure that’s guaranteed to annoy both the vaccinated (some of whom may recoil at the notion of presenting proof of vaccination to travel domestically) and the unvaxxed.

A study conducted last year found that sophisticated air purification systems on aircraft minimize the dangers of flying even when an infected person is in the same row.

About 99.99% of particles were filtered out of the cabin within 6 minutes due to fast air circulation, downward air ventilation and the filtration systems on the aircraft, reports Reuters.

It estimated that to receive an infectious dose, a passenger would need to fly 54 hours on a plane with an infectious person.

As if flying isn’t unpleasant enough, Beyer wants to add another barrier to jumping on a flight: Vaccine passports.

You want to know how odious of an idea this is? It’s garnered the full-throated support of Anthony Fauci, who last weekend pronounced Biden’s mandates to be too “moderate.” Yep, the same doctor who stuttered and stammered when asked on CNN last week why the CDC doesn’t acknowledge natural immunity after an exhaustive Israeli study showed it to offer powerful protection against COVID-19 and its variants.

What’s next, proof of vaccines to drive a car? Get married? Visit national parks?

“Requiring airport and Amtrak travelers and employees to provide a proof of COVID vaccine or negative test is just common sense,” said Rep. Beyer. “These are easy steps we can take to make travel safer… Americans want a return to normal that includes traveling for business or pleasure, and Congress can help make people comfortable traveling again by putting basic requirements in place that prevent the spread of Covid.”

News flash, Congressman. Many of us with common sense have been flying regularly during the pandemic, even before vaccines were available, because we knew that flying was one of the safest modes of transportation due to sophisticated air purification systems.

The airlines are desperately trying to recover from the pandemic. The last thing they need right now are restrictions that make it even more cumbersome to fly. In fact, the majority of domestic airlines have refused to require vaccinations for their crews.

According to Forbes: “U.S. airline executives and airline union leaders have argued that any additional Covid-19 restrictions for domestic flyers would be bad for business, resulting in fewer people willing to fly, and ultimately putting jobs at risk.”

But, hey, who cares about the health of the airline industry when there’s a chance to heap more punishment on those who chose not to get vaccinated?

This column has been republished with permission from Kerry: Unemployed & Unedited.


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51 responses to “Another Sick Idea: Vaccine Passports for Domestic Travel”

  1. William O'Keefe Avatar
    William O’Keefe

    What’s the big deal? If you are vaccinated, getting a passport should be easy. Most masks provide little real protection, so requiring a passport or a negative test is not too much of a burden in my opinion. This would not be an issue if it wasn’t for entrenched anti-vaxers and the fact that mutations are more deadly that the prior virus.

    1. DJRippert Avatar

      I’m vaccinated. How do I get that passport you think is so easy to obtain? Please be specific.

    2. killerhertz Avatar
      killerhertz

      It’s not about anti-vax it’s about freedom. None of these mandates are credible because the vaccine is non-immunizing, therefore you are just as capable of spreading the virus on public transport as others. Coronaviruses are rapidly mutating and this will continue to be an issue. Furthermore, natural immunity provides an order of magnitude better protection than the “vaccines”.

      1. William O'Keefe Avatar
        William O’Keefe

        That is a bogus argument. It’s not freedom if you can put someone else at risk. Only by getting everyone vaccinated can we stop the mutations.
        Where is your evidence on natural immunity’s superior protection.

        1. killerhertz Avatar
          killerhertz

          I already provided a reference in the thread.

          1. William O'Keefe Avatar
            William O’Keefe

            Has that study been replicated? How many people have cross reactive T cells that provide natural immunity? How are you going to get the unvaccinated tested to determine that they have those T cells?
            Why does a public health issue have to become a political issue?

          2. LarrytheG Avatar

            Geeze.. you sound like ME! 😉

          3. William O'Keefe Avatar
            William O’Keefe

            Scary isn’t it?

          4. LarrytheG Avatar

            Yet another “science believer” lordy!

          5. killerhertz Avatar
            killerhertz

            Maybe it will be. The Israeli’s had the earliest data because they got massive amounts of the vaccine first. The study was also well constructed because they tracked participants and put them in dated traunches so they could look at immune response over time.

            I don’t know how to they for T-cell immunity, but it appears they are developing serological testing for it. I could throw the same question back at you for vaccines. There are studies showing that individuals recovered from SARS-COV-1 had long lasting immunity over a decade, so it’s reasonable to apply the same logic here. There’s no such data for the mrna or viral vector vax.

            Anecdotally I was positive for Ig antibodies twice after natural infection 4 and 8 months out (after March 2020). I presented with body aches and GI for 2 days. I don’t have a single vaccinated friend that has bothered to get tested for antibodies, so how they can make the claim they are more protected than me? From a scientific perspective, proponents should at least argue antibody testing should be used as the criteria for passports, not vaccination. I don’t agree with either though as they are medically invasive and in my opinion these passport proposals are merely an attempt at expanding the power of the state.

      2. Stephen Haner Avatar
        Stephen Haner

        Largely pure manure. The vaccines continue to be highly effective. There is no solid evidence that natural immunity is better or more durable than the shots. And if it were, they would still want some 3rd-party paperwork to back up your claims of previous infection, so what’s the difference??

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          He’s representative of the anti-vaxxer types though. And glad to see that even Conservatives have become weary of them.

        2. DJRippert Avatar

          The vaccines are not highly effective. Ask the Israelis or the Singaporeans. The vaccines, so far, are effective at preventing serious illness. They lose their ability to prevent infection fast. Which means the virus is mutating inside vaccinated people who get breakthrough infections.

          My second shot (Pfizer) was administered at the end of February. The Israelis say I’m now 16% protected. Am I really vaccinated anymore?

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            Yep you are. Have you seen any reports of vaccinated people getting seriously ill from breakthrough infections – I mean real info not the stuff put out by the anti-vaxxers.

            RIght now, a bruhaha among epidiemologists over the need for boosters. Most disagree with Israel.

          2. DJRippert Avatar

            Israel’s experience is the observed reality of a highly vaccinated country experiencing a surge. So is Singapore’s experience.

            So, if you are vaccinated you won’t get seriously ill from infection. I agree. Then, why care about the unvaccinated? They are only harming themselves. That’s a shame but it’s their call. No?

            Wait. Let me guess. It’s the mutations that the mandators want to reduce. Well, do you have any reason to believe that people experiencing breakthrough infections cannot have the virus mutate inside them?

            As for (American) epidemiologists …

            “On Aug. 18, the Biden administration announced that it planned to begin offering booster shots of COVID-19 vaccine to fully vaccinated adults starting Sept. 20. People would be eligible for a third shot of either the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccine eight months after their second.”

            https://www.newsobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article254003853.html

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            Children and those with compromised immune systems,, etc?

          4. killerhertz Avatar
            killerhertz

            I agree with you here. The vaccine is really a therapy that perhaps bootstraps your immune system. This is probably good for the at risk population, but is it good for a global mandatory vaccine in all age groups? I don’t think so. From an evolutionary biology perspective it will just put pressure on the virus to mutate. From what I gather we’ve never eradicated a respiratory virus through vax. It’s also interesting to note that “gain-of-function” Peter Daszak talked about developing mrna therapies for coronaviruses in 2019.

            Ultimately this is really all about force and expansion of federal powers. Just like what happened post 9/11, once you delegate your freedoms to the govt, you don’t get it back. This is why we are stuck w/ yet another government agency that is Homeland Security and soon they’ll be asking for 2 year olds to get the jab, which is nonsensical.

        3. killerhertz Avatar
          killerhertz

          https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

          this is born out by the stats out of highly vaccinated countries like UK and Israel.

          do you even know how the vaccines work? they only encode the spike protein. the spike protein (one amino acid) mutated in Delta (~8 months into the pandemic). iirc one of the four amino acids in the furin cleavage site mutated, which enable it to largely escape the vaccine’s protection.

    3. tmtfairfax Avatar

      So let’s slow down a bit. We have constitutional law that holds an adult’s decision about important medical matters is generally beyond the scope of government regulation. It is a matter between the individual and that person’s doctor. Isn’t a decision about whether an individual should receive one or more COVID vaccines an important medical matter receiving constitutional protection? If not, why not?

      And federal law generally protects an individual’s medical records from disclosure. Should this be overridden by the federal government? If so, why not just repeal HIPAA? What if we required a person to disclose whether he/she is or has been taking medicine for HIV? What’s the difference?

      I’m double vaccinated and wear masks when required by law or business. I think it’s a dumb-ass decision not to be vaccinated. But isn’t the law the law?

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        in terms of “freedom”. If you have a right and exercise the “right” to carry a weapon why are you prevented from doing so on an airplane or in a courtroom or many other places with metal detectors?

        why is that ?

  2. DJRippert Avatar

    Funny that Congressman Don Beyer doesn’t see any reason for mandating vaccines for Congress-members.

    How would the airlines know if somebody is vaccinated? By the little cardboard cards we received when we got jabbed? Seriously?

    The bigger question for politicians like Don Beyer should be the length that the vaccines remain effective. The Israelis believe that people receiving the Pfizer vaccine in January are down to a 16% effectiveness rate now. The vaccine still helps prevent serious sickness but infection … not so much. And as every progressive in America knows (and will be happy to tell you) the virus is mutating. Any reason to believe it doesn’t mutate in people whose vaccination has faded to a very low level of protection from infection?

    Today is Sept 14. Biden said the boosters would be generally available on Sept 20.

    Maybe Don Beyer has an opinion on whether that will happen or not.

    1. tmtfairfax Avatar

      So we hear the progressives constantly arguing to follow the science. Yet, Beyer is attempting to legislate a health mandate in the face of scientific findings from Israel. And he’s seemingly making no effort to reverse Biden’s policy of allowing many unauthorized aliens with COVID to enter the United States. How is that consistent with his legislation?

  3. LarrytheG Avatar

    It’s been interesting watching the evolutions of Conservative
    views in BR over the last few weeks and months.

    But I must say, Kerry is not one and has not changed an inch!

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      More political manure. What you have watched is a move from ignorance and confusion, which were universal 18 months ago, to some level of data-based opinion. You and Kerry are two sides of the same coin….

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        You’re right. And Larry’s right. Kerry has remained in the ignorant camp all along.

  4. “Requiring airport and Amtrak travelers and employees to provide a proof of COVID vaccine or negative test is just common sense,” said Rep. Beyer.

    In my experience, when a so-called progressive breaks out the “common sense” argument, he’s about to [try to] relieve you of at least one of your constitutional rights.

    1. Matt Adams Avatar

      The road to historical similarities seems to be growing.

    2. Matt Adams Avatar

      Here we are talking about Rep. Beyer and vaccine passports and our former Governor and the Nominee for Governor feels he’s above the mask requirements on Amtrak on the train and at Penn Station.

  5. Any attempt to implement vaccine passports needs to address the Supreme Court’s rulings that there is a constitutional right to travel from one State to another, and that any governmental restriction on that right violates the Equal Protection Clause unless shown to be necessary to promote a compelling governmental interest. See, e.g., Saenz v. Roe, 526 U.S. 489, 498-499 (1999)(citing earlier cases).

    Furthermore, there has never been any “internal passport” required for travel inside the United States. Before the United States rushes into creating any system of “internal passports,” we need to carefully consider the far-ranging potential negative consequences of imposing such governmental restrictions on travel that have been illustrated by the experience of other countries that have used some form of “internal passport” to restrict the free movement of their people.

    My wife and I have been vaccinated against COVID. I have no objection whatsoever to COVID vaccines or any other vaccines in general. My concern is that public health is being invoked to justify serious restrictions on the freedom and liberty of Americans that reach far beyond any reasonable public health objectives. Invoking public health does not negate or override the U.S. Constitution.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      I don’t disagree on the whole but point out that, for instance, you may have a “right” to own a weapon, but that right has restrictions including on air travel.

      That’s a clear restriction on your freedom and liberty no?

      You have a right to smoke or to drink alcohol but not anywhere and anytime you wish.

      You may have a right to buy and possess certain drugs but if you carry them on an airplane you may be charged with violation of Federal law.

      There are all kinds of such examples.

  6. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    Kinda how it works in plenty of the rest of the world, and I’m not planning to avoid trips to Europe simply on that basis. By next spring we’ll have some kind of documentation we need. I hope you don’t mind what we choose to do….

    As for the airline industry, two more runs, back and forth to San Antonio in recent weeks and ATL is starting to look close to normal. Last leg was Sunday so I’ll let you know how I feel in a few days. 🙂 Masks all around but hilarious how sloppy many were with them, and some people with the little filter doors were told to switch to something else. They are verboten but thin cloth masks are acceptable? Yeah…….

    Did finally (after a long wait) get a call back from VDH about the backup certification on my shots. Turns out I was in the database with my nickname, not my full name, but she found it. Database must be a mess…..

    1. DJRippert Avatar

      Of course the database is a mess. This is Northam’s Virginia. Our state IT systems are shambolic and the genius we elected governor pushed the state Secretary of Technology off the cabinet.

      Suresh Soundararajan is the Chief Information Officer at Virginia Department of Health. Perhaps he can be contacted for guidance as to what that organization is doing to pave the way for “vaccine passports”.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        You really need a national-scope database. People do move and do travel.

        1. DJRippert Avatar

          I agree. And that database will have to record booster shot status to be effective. Mark my words.

          So, where is Biden or Beyer on the matter of a national database?

          Seems like the systems that manage passports at the federal level would be a place to begin. Or, as you say, perhaps the drivers’ licenses.

    2. DJRippert Avatar

      Here’s a news flash for Don Beyer – airplanes fly. Virginia’s airports are full of people who got vaccinated outside of Virginia. Unless the VDH database in networked with all the other states how will that work?

      Here’s a news flash for the Richmond elite – Washington, DC is a city and NoVa is a suburb of that city. Plenty of Virginians travel to BWI (outside Baltimore) to fly. Will Maryland be able to access Virginia’s vaccination database?

      It must be nice to be Don Beyer. A trust fund baby with pockets stuffed with money from the chain of car dealerships founded by his father. I’m guessing he flies Air Gulfstream when he travels. In Beyer’s mind I suppose details are for “the little people”.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        I’m not sure a national-level database is going to go anywhere. That will be perceived as big-brother on steroids.

        On the other side, most all states do have the ability to check your drivers license from your home state. And Social Security and Medicare have no trouble with your data no matter where you ilve.

        1. DJRippert Avatar

          I’m talking about Don Beyer’s half-assed idea to require vaccinations in order to fly.

          How will the airlines do that?

          I’m sure that the “born rich” have “people” to attend to their details. However, in the real world outside of trust fund babies and the federal government somebody has to actually think through the implications of proposed legislation.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            I thought other countries were already doing that, no?

            Is Beyer really out of touch if other countries are requiring it?

          2. DJRippert Avatar

            He’s out of touch for two reasons:

            1. I hear no discussion as to how the airlines or the traveling public will be able to prove their vaccination status.

            2. The vaccines’ effectiveness against infection declines over time. If reducing the odds of mutation is a goal then booster shots need to be given and recorded as well.

            Other countries may have thought through the methods needed to prove vaccination. We didn’t and a guy who has been in office for 6 years ought to know that we lack the technological infrastructure to manage vaccine passports.

            Again, I am vaccinated. Where can I get my vaccine passport?

          3. killerhertz Avatar
            killerhertz

            You mean the western countries that are having civil unrest as a result or authoritarian regimes like China?

  7. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Cleek’s Law applies to Kerry’s opinions.

    It would seem far less of a Nanny State if it wasn’t full of petulant children.

    1. tmtfairfax Avatar

      Or people making decisions about their own lives.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        If that were only true, but it’s not.

      2. LarrytheG Avatar

        there are materials that you and I (all of us) are not allowed to possess because they are considered dangerous to yourself and others. Is that a restriction on your “rights” and “liberty”?

        Can you engage in behaviors that endanger others?

        1. tmtfairfax Avatar

          Roe v Wade and its progeny have established a basic constitutional right to make basic medical decisions without government interference. While SCOTUS has said regulation or even prohibition in the latter part of pregnancy is possible, as a practical matter, because the Doe v Bolton requirement that an exception “for the preservation of the life and health of the mother” be included in regulation, those prohibitions are illusory in most case. Whether this is good or bad law is not my point. But if a woman can freely make this medical decision without government interference, she and everyone else, including men, have a similar right to decide whether or not to be vaccinated against COVID. And each individual has the right to travel between states. There is a big difference between deciding to be vaccinated and transporting cocaine with the intent to sell.

          Could the feds required a flu shot to travel by air? Or require a chicken pox shot?

          And why is Biden allowing illegals with active cases of COVID to come into the country if he’s so damned concerned about stopping the transmission of COVID?

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            re: ” But if a woman can freely make this medical decision without government interference, she and everyone else, including men, have a similar right to decide whether or not to be vaccinated against COVID”

            Except she really cannot. There actually are rules and laws that do restrict some kinds of abortion. She cannot abort at any time during the pregnancy.

            And you do not have the right to smoke in a public place or in a gas station, etc.

            and you are not allowed to drive drunk

            or offer someone else drugs that then kill them… etc..

            Did you fly to Alaska? Were you restricted?

          2. tmtfairfax Avatar

            Larry, your conclusions are wrong. Doe v. Bolton and its progeny have held that any state regulation of abortion must have an exception that overrides the regulation when a doctor determines that abortion is needed “for the preservation of the life and health of the mother.” There are no standards to govern this override. In effect, it’s a blank check to permit an abortion at any time in the pregnancy and for any reason so long as a doctor agrees.

            Once again, I am not arguing that this is good or bad policy. But it is the law.

            We are discussing medical treatments only; here, abortion and COVID vaccination, You keep bringing up non-medical issues that are not addressed by the Roe v. Wade and following cases. Roe did not address smoking, driving and drinking, etc. Only medical procedures.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            TMT – the law is what requires the doctor, sometimes 2 – to certify. It’s the law that does regulate it.

            The same laws that also regulate other medical procedures and defers to medical professionals.

            For instance, you do not have the freedom to dictate any therapy or medical treatment that is not allowed by law.

  8. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    While traveling, if you get pulled by a cop… wear your mask.

    https://www.newsweek.com/nj-police-unions-still-oppose-vaccine-mandates-22-officers-die-covid-last-week-1629015

    Don’t have to defund them, their labor costs are dropping all by their lone.

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