A New “Landscape” for UVa Admissions

Credit: Bing Image creator. College landscape in the style of William Constable.

by Walter Smith

With the recent U.S. Supreme Court restricting “affirmative action” in college and university admissions, an all-consuming question in Charlottesville is how the University of Virginia might change its policies and guidelines for admitting students.

While prohibiting the use of race as a decisive factor in admissions, Supreme Court Justice John Roberts allowed for holistic reviews that took into account race as part of an applicant’s sum-of-life experiences. Harvard University announced it intends to drive a truck through that loophole. Likewise, UVa President Jim Ryan and Provost Ian Baucom, who last week proclaimed their intent to ignore the ruling as much as possible, have not only lined up a truck but are revving up the engine.

The admissions process at UVa is opaque. The administration has refused, repeatedly, to provide me data concerning students admitted for the fall of 2023 or to answer my deep-dive questions for admissions in 2022, regarding which the Admissions Office was very cooperative… until it wasn’t. In particular, the Office has not been forthcoming about its use of a tool, “Landscape,” developed by the College Board, the same people who administer the SAT exams.

The College Board describes Landscape benignly as “consistent, data-driven information to help colleges … understand an applicant’s accomplishments in the context of the opportunities available to them.” Originally, the Board developed an “adversity index” that colleges could use to give preference to applicants who had overcome hardship, but the idea created a furor, and the Board scrapped it. Landscape took its place.

As I understand it, the tool supplies two numbers for an applicant: (1) a “School” score which apparently rates the applicant against other students from the school; and (2) a “Neighborhood” score which apparently is inversely scored against the desirability of the applicant’s neighborhood.

I say “apparently” because UVa has declined to confirm my understanding of Landscape or explain how it is used. It has refused to allow me to run hypotheticals on the platform, and it has refused to state if the database was used to cull the 51,000 applications for the 2023-24 academic year to a more manageable number for “holistic” reviews.

UVa, like many other “elite” schools, has dropped the SAT as a requirement. Nonetheless, roughly 30% of applicants for the 2022 entering class (the last year for which Admissions responded to my requests for data) submitted their scores. Black applicants had the highest offer rate of 29% even though their Mean SAT scores were roughly 100 points lower than that of other racial classifications. Of Whites, Asian, Hispanic and Black, Whites had the lowest offer rate at 17%. “Race Unknown” had a higher rate than Whites! In a recent article in The Daily Progress, UVA asserted that it was not lowering standards and that the 2019 entering class had a Mean SAT of 1409.

Under the new admissions regime, UVA will, in theory, do a “holistic review” of its applicants. The number of applicants exploded to 51,000 in 2023 thanks to the adoption of the Common Application, which made it easier than ever for students to submit applications to multiple colleges.

How big of a staff do you need to do a true “holistic review” of 51,000 unique individuals? There must be some way to winnow the herd.

UVa repeatedly told me there was no minimum Landscape score. How, then, is Landscape used? How does UVa ensure a consistent standard for all applicants? Is it acceptable for one reviewer to use a combined Landscape score of 60 and another a score of 80? If so, how much weight are the scores given?

College Board insists that Landscape is not an “adversity index.” States the Board: “This is not an adversity score. Landscape does not measure adversity and never will. It simply helps admissions officers better understand the high schools and neighborhoods applicants come from. It does not help them understand an applicant’s individual circumstances, their personal stories, hardships, or home life.”

What good is a tool that measures the “general neighborhood and high school information,” if it says nothing about the experience of any particular applicant?

Here is the question that I think blows up the charade: if I plug the same person into Landscape and change only the school and the zip code, will different scores result?

You know the answer, and so do I, which is why UVA will not allow me access to Landscape. Perhaps the BOV will look into this question.

Walter Smith chairs The Jefferson Council committee on research and analysis.


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46 responses to “A New “Landscape” for UVa Admissions”

  1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    Why do you feel entitled to the details of the admissions process that no students are privy to (and for good reason)…?

    1. Lefty665 Avatar
      Lefty665

      Virginia FOIA:

      “B. By enacting this chapter, the General Assembly
      ensures the people of the Commonwealth ready access to public records in the custody of a public body or its officers and employees, and free entry to meetings of public bodies wherein the business of the people is being conducted. The affairs of government are not intended to be conducted in an atmosphere of secrecy since at all times the public is to be the beneficiary of any action taken at any level of government.”

    2. Lefty665 Avatar
      Lefty665

      Virginia FOIA:

      “B. By enacting this chapter, the General Assembly
      ensures the people of the Commonwealth ready access to public records in the custody of a public body or its officers and employees, and free entry to meetings of public bodies wherein the business of the people is being conducted. The affairs of government are not intended to be conducted in an atmosphere of secrecy since at all times the public is to be the beneficiary of any action taken at any level of government.”

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        I am sure UVa is fully aware of FOIA as well as it’s exceptions.

        1. Lefty665 Avatar
          Lefty665

          You asked why the process should be transparent. I provided the answer.

          Your response to that is a non sequitur.

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            My response is dead on. I asked for a reason, you cited a law (one that specifically has MANY exemptions). I pointed out that your citation was not a valid answer as the information Walt feels entitled to is clearly exempt from FOIA (else UVa would be bound to produce it – and they know it – as I stated). Does that clear things up for you?

          2. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            You have no knowledge that UVa has been subject to a FOIA request so your response is still just supposition and blather. That clears things up for you.

          3. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Well, then all Walt must do is ask. I am fairly certain he has or knows it would be a waste of his time and effort – most likely the latter. Nonetheless, it is par for the course for this sort of working product information to be excluded from FOIA.

            Edit: Btw, from a prior post:
            “Probing deeper than the numbers provided in The Cavalier Daily article, one of us, Walter Smith, used the Freedom of Information Act to ask UVa for a detailed breakdown of the admissions data. We compiled the numbers in the table above.”

          4. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Well, then all Walt must do is ask. I am fairly certain he has or knows it would be a waste of his time and effort – most likely the latter. Nonetheless, it is par for the course for this sort of working product information to be excluded from FOIA.

            Edit: Btw, from a prior post:
            “Probing deeper than the numbers provided in The Cavalier Daily article, one of us, Walter Smith, used the Freedom of Information Act to ask UVa for a detailed breakdown of the admissions data. We compiled the numbers in the table above.”

          5. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            “Fairly certain”, that fairly characterizes much of your commentary, most of which is fairly light on facts.

          6. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            See my edit… Walt did indeed FOIA admissions data… so there you go…

          7. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            See my response to your edit. You still don’t get it.

          8. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            He FOIA’d numbers, not process, and he got them. Gotta read closer to get it right troll, but you get points for research. Nice try, but still no cigar.

            Not revealing process because it might allow gaming the system, as if it is not gamed already, is a poor excuse for doing the peoples business in secret. There is no evidence so far that is anything more than a figment of your imagination.

          9. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Walt has demonstrated he will FOIA for information he seeks. In this post he complains about them not giving him information he seeks. Well, Walt could simply FOIA the information… unless he already did… or he knows it is exempt. Those are really the only two answers that fit the data. But if I am wrong, I still go with, “Well, then FOIA the documents, Walt.”

    3. Lefty665 Avatar
      Lefty665

      Virginia FOIA:

      “B. By enacting this chapter, the General Assembly
      ensures the people of the Commonwealth ready access to public records in the custody of a public body or its officers and employees, and free entry to meetings of public bodies wherein the business of the people is being conducted. The affairs of government are not intended to be conducted in an atmosphere of secrecy since at all times the public is to be the beneficiary of any action taken at any level of government.”

    4. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      If their process is fair, logical and ethical … why would they want to hide it?

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        Any process (once public) can be gamed. And then there is the whole litigation avoidance thing. (Walt certainly is telegraphing intent right here).

        1. Nathan Avatar

          How does one “game” SAT scores?

          The fact is, the process is being gamed now. When my son was attending Maggie Walker, it was common knowledge among students that some were using phony baloney charitable works and other endeavors to game the system.

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            There is far more involved in the admissions decision than simply SAT scores. But trust me, they can be gamed as any SAT tutor knows full well.

          2. Nathan Avatar

            You miss my point. It’s much more difficult to game SAT and other attemps to measure merrit, particularly math.

          3. Lefty665 Avatar
            Lefty665

            “But trust me”

            Trust a light on facts troll? I’m “fairly certain” to use your own words, that dog won’t hunt.

        2. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
          James Wyatt Whitehead

          Doveryai no proveryai. What is wrong with confirming the process is not gamed to favor the interests of the institution? Walter is right. Due diligence on the part of citizens is a must.

          1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            “What is wrong with confirming the process is not gamed to favor the interests of the institution?”

            Not a terrible question. If in the process of confirmation, the system becomes public and will then be subject to abuse as stated, one has destroyed the system itself. Most likely why information like this is not actually subject to FOIA in the first place.

  2. Robert L. Maronic Avatar
    Robert L. Maronic

    Re: “While prohibiting the use of race as a decisive factor in admissions, Supreme Court Justice John Roberts allowed for holistic reviews that took into account race as part of an applicant’s sum-of-life experiences.”

    Where can I obtain more information about holistic reviews?

  3. M. Purdy Avatar
    M. Purdy

    Not sure what this post is supposed to mean…are you upset with the school or the limited nature of the SCOTUS decision? Everything UVA has said is consistent with the ruling.

    1. walter smith Avatar
      walter smith

      “Everything UVA has said is consistent with the ruling.”
      Talk is cheap. UVA has been breaking the law in admissions for a while and will continue to do so.
      Landscape was invented to racially tilt the field in admissions without specifically using race. So Ryan et al (including the admissions depts of other “elite” schools) will continue to cheat until finally sued under a disparate impact analysis.

      1. M. Purdy Avatar
        M. Purdy

        Breaking the law? No, sorry. Not even close.

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Absence of evidence is proof someone is up to something.

          1. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            You guys used to believe in disparate impact analysis…
            I guess until it is used against you.

        2. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

          1. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            I wish you the best in your lawsuit and your quest to keep the underprivileged out of UVa…

          2. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Seriously. Come out. What position do you hold at UVA?
            Ooooh…”keep the underprivileged” out of UVA.
            So, you ARE a racist, then, because UVA’s tilting the tables in favor of black applicants means they are underprivileged?
            What about the excluded white underprivileged? Or the Asian overqualified?
            You believe balcks are intellectually inferior and need your white Savior help?

            Meanwhile. you Lefties love to say go raise the money to sue…you’ll hate it when it happens to you.

            Seriously, you Lefties used to at least have principles…before you became Marxists and power became the be all end all.

          3. M. Purdy Avatar
            M. Purdy

            Quit telling on yourself.

          4. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            You’re the one believing blacks need your white savior help…

      2. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        Contact Students For Fair Admission to secure an attorney. Initiate crowdfunding through GiveGoSend a Christian crowd funding group.

        1. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          Smug Lefty reply. “We know we are violating the law and besides you don’t have the money, we have corrupted the judiciary and law schools, too. Yeah, the recent rulings should have been 9-0 for your side, but we have our 3 useful idiots, and that is why we hate Trump. It should have been 6-3 our way, and our power would be judicially secured forever, like our buds are doing in Venezuela and Brazil.”

          And why do you hate GiveGoSend? Can I preface everything your side does? Godless, secular humanist, anti-American, common people hating tyrants? Other than it’s accurate, it’s kinda long…

        2. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          Smug Lefty reply. “We know we are violating the law and besides you don’t have the money, we have corrupted the judiciary and law schools, too. Yeah, the recent rulings should have been 9-0 for your side, but we have our 3 useful idiots, and that is why we hate Trump. It should have been 6-3 our way, and our power would be judicially secured forever, like our buds are doing in Venezuela and Brazil.”

          And why do you hate GiveGoSend? Can I preface everything your side does? Godless, secular humanist, anti-American, common people hating tyrants? Other than it’s accurate, it’s kinda long…

      3. VaNavVet Avatar
        VaNavVet

        JAB’s article says that whites are underrepresented in UVA entering class so this analysis may show a tilting in favor of Asian-American students. Thereby breaking the law.

        1. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          And maybe still showing discrimination against “Asians.” Like why TJ got rid of tests. Asians did have the highest SATs in the data I got. Maybe they should have been higher…

  4. Lefty665 Avatar
    Lefty665

    Seems the very definition of “arbitrary and capricious”.

    Also seems likely the Court will have “opportunities” to follow up on their decision last week. That could help some of our educators understand what “unconstitutional” means.

    Best of luck in encouraging some responsiveness.

    Black male enrollment at UVa is around 2.5%, roughly 1/3 of its incidence in the population, but likely reflecting academic achievement. There could be an argument that UVa is admitting based on academic achievement and that DIE is just (expensive) window dressing. Perhaps castigating Ryan for suppressing diversity would entice UVa to be more transparent about how Landscape shapes the Lawn. Is there validity to the appearance from raw enrollment numbers that Landscape actually reduces diversity? Or perhaps a detective Columbo moment, “Oh, one last thing, in looking at the actual enrollment numbers there was one thing, a minor detail, that stuck out that puzzled me, maybe you can help me figure it out and put my mind at ease…”

  5. VaPragamtist Avatar
    VaPragamtist

    I’m very curious about the variables they use for neighborhood “desirability”, and how each variable is weighted. An inner-city neighborhood might have higher incidence of crime but access to public transportation, grocery stores, healthcare facilities, and a local government with administrative capacity to seek improvement. A rural neighborhood may have lower incidence of (reported) crime, but no access to any of the above.

    The first neighborhood has a heterogeneous population (we’re told diversity is desirable in communities). The second is homogenous. Both have comparable median household incomes in relation to their cost of living. Which is the more “desirable” place to live?

  6. Teddy007 Avatar
    Teddy007

    If anything, something like Landscape will hurt the children of black white collar families who children are attending either private schools (no neighborhood) or the best public schools like Langley High. That is very different than a straight race-based affirmative action program.

    Of course, UVA really wants to admit the black students from Langley since they are more likely to finish a degree in business, engineering, or pre-med versus poor blacks from urban Richmond schools.

  7. AlH - Deckplates Avatar
    AlH – Deckplates

    College Selection & Admission Precepts have criteria which are public & then some which are private – not known by the public. Yes, during the process, all the applicants are racked and stacked into different piles – Academic achievements, boys, girls, foreign, and then the colors (of skin). Some are even moved up, in final ranking, due to relationships, either kin, of someone “important,” or “a friend of…” Then the quota’s take place. How can a “mere” Supreme Court ruling provide any repair or correction to the present flawed University & College selection & admission process?

    The simple solution is to specify criteria and obviate it by making public the whole selection and admission process + real criteria used in ranking. This will result in high school students believing that the process is fair and equal. Moreover, it will answer the question, “what do the schools want us to achieve, academically, in order to get ranked for admission?”
    Otherwise, these people, managing the schools, are getting paid a lot of money to break the law, and diss the future for those who want admission.

  8. Nathan Avatar

    I thought this was informative and insightful, from the NY Times.

    What’s happening now:

    Nearly every college admissions tutoring job I took over the next few years would come with a version of the same behest. The Chinese and Korean kids wanted to know how to make their application materials seem less Chinese or Korean. The rich white kids wanted to know ways to seem less rich and less white. The Black kids wanted to make sure they came across as Black enough. Ditto for the Latino and Middle Eastern kids.

    Seemingly everyone I interacted with as a tutor — white or brown, rich or poor, student or parent — believed that getting into an elite college required what I came to call racial gamification. For these students, the college admissions process had been reduced to performance art, in which they were tasked with either minimizing or maximizing their identity in exchange for the reward of a proverbial thick envelope from their dream school.

    Bottom Line:

    Remember that racial gamification is just that: a game. Ignore anyone who would have you believe that attending Ivy League universities — with their endowments as large as a reasonably sized country’s nominal G.D.P. — is the only path to happiness or success or racial equality. Civil rights leaders did not endure the dogs and the cold baptism of the fire hoses in the hopes that one day their children’s children could become Ivy-minted venture capitalists and management consultants. Remember that Martin Luther King Jr. did not dream of a multiracial oligarchy and that the “vaults of opportunity” of which he spoke are not hidden only behind a golden door at Yale University. There are other paths in life that do not require gaming anything. Remember that hope is wherever you find yourself.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/29/opinion/college-admissions-affirmative-action.html

  9. Nathan Avatar

    “How, then, is Landscape used?”

    My guess? It’s used at elite universities to tweak admissions for the “best” potential outcome. After admissions criteria and weightings are established, based on outcome, justifications are written after the fact to provide the rational, should it be questioned in future litigation.

    As Mr. Smith pointed out in another comment, disparate impact analysis doesn’t count when Asians are negatively impacted. But the idea that this process is unintentionally discriminatory, is laughable. It’s the whole point.

    But taxpayers have no right to see exactly how this process works at a state university?

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