A Look at Two Boards of Visitors

by Dick Hall-Sizemore

The boards of visitors of the Commonwealth’s colleges and universities have been taking some hits on these pages. To read these posts, one would come to the conclusion that the boards of visitors are comprised of mediocre “woke” personalities who have few leadership or business skills. One correspondent of Jim Bacon’s even charged that these institutions have “second rate boards” composed of “political hacks, ideologues, and rabid sports fans.”

My curiosity was aroused. Who were these people on these boards? I decided to look at the composition of the boards of visitors of the two institutions that have been most in BR’s crosshairs: the University of Virginia and Virginia Military Institute.

The composition and short bios of the UVa Board of Visitors members:

  • Whittington W. Clement (Rector)–Former member of the Virginia General Assembly, past president of the Virginia Bar Association, and Special Counsel, Hunton Andrews Kurth, a large, multi-state law firm with over 800 lawyers.
  • Robert D. Hardie–Co-chair and CEO, H7 Holdings LLC, a private investment company.
  • Robert M. Blue–President and CEO, Dominion Energy
  • Mark T. Bowles–Chairman, McGuireWoods Consulting and Partner, McGuireWoods, probably the most influential law firm and lobbying outfit in the state.
  • D. Britt, Surgeon–Eastern Virginia Medical School; President, American College of Surgeons
  • Carlos Brown–Senior Vice President and General Counsel, Dominion Energy
  • Frank M. Conner, II–Partner, Covington and Burling LLP, an international law firm and one of the top law firms in the country
  • Elizabeth Cranwell–real estate professional, Roanoke
  • Thomas DePasquale–Private investor, executive management and founder of several private ventures
  • Barbara J. Fried—owner, Fried Companies, a real estate and development company in the Charlottesville area
  • Louis S. Haddad—CEO and President, Armada Hoffler Properties, a real estate building, acquisition and management company for office, retail, and multifamily properties. Listed on the New York Stock Exchange.
  • Barbur Lateef—Physician/Ophthalmologist
  • Angela Mangano—Former soccer star for UVa and member of two Olympic teams. Real estate in California.
  • James B. Murray, Jr.—Managing Partner, Court Square Ventures. Investment banker and venture capitalist.  At one time, his net worth was estimated at $125 million.
  • F. Payne—former Congressman. President, Three Ridges Group.
  • Evans Poston, Jr.—Director of Government Affairs, Hunton Andrews Kurth
  • James Reyes—Director/Principal, Reyes Holdings. Food and beverage distributors in Washington, D.C. area.  Family firm; father and brother are listed as billionaires.
  • Joel Hockensmith—Faculty representative. Associate Professor, Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics

The member of the VMI Board of Visitors:

  • Lara Tyler Chambers—Founder and co-owner, Tyler Development Group, an engineering and real estate development company
  • Gen. Charles Dominy (Ret.)—Director of Government Affairs, IAP Worldwide Services; previous positions with Halliburton and Kellogg Brown and Root companies
  • Hugh Fain—a principal in the Richmond law firm of SpottsFain; past president of Virginia Bar Association
  • Conrad Garcia—Chair of tax section of Williams Mullen law firm, a multi-state law firm with more than 240 attorneys
  • Conrad Hall—former Executive Vice President and CFO of Landmark Communications; later President and CEO, Dominion Enterprises
  • Michael Hamlar—funeral director
  • Richard Hines—Senior litigation partner with Atlanta law firm. Fourth generation in family to attend VMI.
  • Lester Johnson—owner and managing partner, Mama J’s, a Richmond restaurant (one of my favorites!)
  • Sean Lanier—After serving as Army officer, currently real estate agent in Alexandria
  • Gussie Lord—Lawyer, represents Indian tribes and Indigenous communities in efforts to protect environment. Member of first co-ed class to graduate from VMI.
  • Scot Marsh—Presiding Partner of Marsh and Legge Surveyors
  • David Miller—Until his retirement (2016), served as President and COO of Community Health Systems, a national operator of acute care hospitals. In 2016, the company had $18 billion in net revenue.
  • Joe Reeder—attorney, former Under Secretary of the Army
  • Gene Scott—Until retirement, worked in management for numerous IT firms, including Verizon
  • Thomas R. Watson—until retirement, President and CEO of Unum, provider of financial protection benefits in the workplace. Previously served on the board of directors of Sun Trust Bank.
  • Damon Williams—regional community reinvestment officer, First Citizens Bank of Roanoke
  • Gen. Timothy Williams—current Adjutant General of Virginia

With a few exceptions, both boards seem to be comprised of well-qualified members with solid backgrounds in business and leadership—hardly groups of “political hacks, ideologues, and rabid sports fans.”

Finally, the posts and comments on BR would lead one to believe that the alumni of these two institutions are in open rebellion. However, of the 17 members of the UVa Board of Visitors, 11 are alumni of the school. For VMI, 12 of the 17 board members are alumni. It would seem that the alumni are well-represented on the governing bodies of both institutions.

Many of the criticisms of boards of visitors, such as too much deference to administration and not enough background in the management of higher education institutions, are legitimate concerns. Also, disagreements with policy are valid. Many commentators on this blog don’t like what they perceive as an overemphasis on social justice being manifested on many campuses and supported by the boards of visitors. That’s fair game. What’s not valid is the questioning of the credentials or qualifications generally of the members of those board members. Steve Haner hit it on the head: Some folks want their qualified cronies on the boards of visitors as opposed to the other side’s qualified cronies.


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53 responses to “A Look at Two Boards of Visitors”

  1. Lawrence Hincker Avatar
    Lawrence Hincker

    Dick, Thanks for this helpful public service. I was remiss in not noting the same thing in my post yesterday. When I first arrived back at my alma mater, Virginia Tech, more than thirty years ago to begin another corporate communications career, I was struck by the the lofty corporate positions of many board members. They included CEOs or former CEOs of Exxon, General Dynamics, American Electric Power, Georgia Pacific, and Hercules, naming just a few.

    I found that when the schools engineered (just had to use that term) their alumni appointments, they were generally solid people. It was those folks who were political payoffs that caused problems.

  2. DJRippert Avatar

    How you can tell from those brief descriptions whether the people are qualified to be on a board is beyond me.

    One thing for sure, they know how to make big political donations, as I described in an article from about one year ago.

    https://www.baconsrebellion.com/the-jaw-dropping-political-contributions-of-uvas-board-of-visitors/

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      Yep and they did this under the GOP also… pre-“woke’ even!

      1. DJRippert Avatar

        Oh yeah. It’s never been about the best people for the positions, it’s always been about political contributions.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          yes… but NOW, they’re ALSO “WOKE” in addition to political hacks… eh?

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Only the ones at UVa.

    2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      I agree that their resumes alone do not indicate whether they are qualified to serve on the boards. My point was that they are being attacked for being “second rate” and “political hacks and ideologues” and, generally speaking, that is not the case.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Until they become such. Although, a BoV is hardly a place to launch a “radical” political campaign. Too many much smarter people around — and minutes in writing.

        These people didn’t get there suffering fools. Or being one.

        1. Stephen Haner Avatar
          Stephen Haner

          Oh, I can cite a few….

          Everybody ignoring what I think is the key question: What is their job? Who is their “customer.” Do they owe anybody fiduciary duty?

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            Well, is their ‘mission’ to make Higher Ed less “liberal” ?

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Well, that’s easy… the NCAA.

    3. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Did you vote for Youngkin because of his CV?

      1. DJRippert Avatar

        Compared to McAuliffe? Damn right!

      2. sbostian Avatar

        I voted for him in spite of his CV.

  3. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    It’s not that people aren’t people of achievement. It’s the lack of oversight, or even the awareness of what is actually going on. I saw on a public company Board how the CEO used Sarbanes-Oxley “good governance” “reforms” to totally control the Board and to keep it in the dark until it was too late and we had to be sold. Of course people will put in their own hacks. But can we have hacks who really want to get into the nitty gritty of what is happening because they love the school? Is that too much to ask? And this raises another question – who really owns a public university? Tragedy of the commons because it is owned by everyone and no one? I think alumni need to hold a prominent AND INDEPENDENT role in the school’s governance.

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      Do you think it is too much to ask folks who are busy running their own businesses to take the time to “get into the nitty gritty” of higher ed management? Especially when the boards meet only about four times a year for a couple of days each?

      1. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        No I don’t. It is a fiduciary responsibility. If you aren’t going to take it seriously, then don’t accept the responsibility. But I think you have put your finger on it – most treat it as an accomplishment, an honor, and continue with their lives. I want more out of them.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          so how do you fix this?

          1. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            I wish I knew. I think alumni and current parents have to demand more. The kids are being indoctrinated. There is a monoculture. Free speech…isn’t. And the administrations are into everything EXCEPT education. Jim Ryan’s announcement on the white supremacy trial… They should stay out of politics and social engineering and get back to their supposed reason for existing. But WAAAAY too much money flows…
            I’d like to see a Board that is committed to reducing costs. That requires a cost/benefit analysis, and that actively protects the students’ pocketbooks and rights.

  4. vicnicholls Avatar
    vicnicholls

    Its L D Britt, not D Britt.

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      You are correct. For some reason, my “L” finger was not working and, inexcusably, I did not catch my mistakes. I left off the L in L.F. Payne’s name, as well. I apologize to both gentlemen.

  5. For the record: My critique has always been that (a) university presidents control the flow of information, and (b) Boards of Visitors are too deferential to the presidents. I never accused board members of being dufuses.

    1. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      Just uninformed lackeys.

      Especially uninformed lackeys who don’t do what you think is important — drive out Marxist, DE&I indoctrinating faculty (who actually know what CRT is) and incredibly smart little girls who write Eff UVa on doors because they know white supremacy for what it is, and then impose Rightist SOLs on colleges. Oh, and that endowment! Oh dear God, however did they build it and they should use it the way you want them to.

      Dufus and nebish, my brother’s favorite words when we were growing up. Haven’t heard them in years, but I heard them a lot then.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        yes. Good LORD – the rhetoric on BOVs has been way, way more than the 1. & 2. that JAB claims!

        I bet even those that agree with JAB here in BR will admit that especially for the VMI and UVA alumni!

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Well, if BR has any evidence that the administration of any State school deliberately withheld or misrepresented information from the BoV, he sure hasn’t presented it.

          Spends too much time publishing anonymous hearsay.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            For some time now, BR has been whacking on BOVs… actually going back
            to when Dragas was running amok at UVA and she was cheered on here in BR!

            (recall that was when JAB and like-minded supported MOOC, “woke”had not yet been “invented”)

            Conservatives here in BR want to “change” the BOVs to essentially make them more “hands on” according to the wishes of the BOV which they want to essentially better represent Conservative viewpoints especially with regard to “woke” and DE&I and more…..

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            If he wants to know who is “running” the State’s colleges and universities, he need look no further than the highest paid employee at the school. It ain’t always the president, and when it isn’t, that high-paid employee makes more than half the faculty added together.

          3. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
            Dick Hall-Sizemore

            Back in the ancient days when I was at W&M, the person who ran the school was Dean Lambert. I am not sure what he was “Dean of”, but there was no question who you needed to go to in order to get something done. And he was readily accessible while walking around campus. https://digitalarchive.wm.edu/handle/10288/3481

          4. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            I must’ve missed him. With my undergraduate school, it was a Webb.

  6. Stephen Haner Avatar
    Stephen Haner

    I love it when Dick’s Deep State tendencies bloom on full display. Of course they are well qualified, but that doesn’t mean they are looking out for the taxpayers, the students, or the public at large. The problem, and Jim and I engaged on this years ago (this is all getting so repetitive and boring), is who they work for — who do they perceive they work for? Too often they simply go along with the president and the administration. Not attending those meetings, I can’t see how often the inconvenient question is asked, the one-sided decision paper is kicked back for the other side of the argument….but my guess is not very often. To whom do they owe their fiduciary duty? Have they ever said hell no to either the president or the Third Floor?

    Plenty of people on those lists with heavy political credentials.

    While I was typing, Hincker posted first. What would be his vested interest when at Tech? Certainly not a board that “caused problems.” No CEO or C Suite wants a board that “causes problems.” Stockholders might…Who are Tech’s “stockholders?” But I thank him for the admission that Tech “engineered” its own board (no pun intended.)

    I’d like another four years on SCHEV. Got yanked for being somebody who “caused problems.” Haven’t asked. That armed picket line they call a qualifications commission will have my name on the list as a predetermined no. My favorite moment was during a debate on student debt and somebody claimed that $35,000 was no big deal, “that’s just the price of a car.” I was probably the only person at the table who had never paid $35,000 for a car (hell, for both cars.). Can you say “out of touch?

    1. vicnicholls Avatar
      vicnicholls

      “Of course they are well qualified, but that doesn’t mean they are
      looking out for the taxpayers, the students, or the public at large.”

      THANK YOU @stephenhaner:disqus .

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Taxpayers foot 6% of Uva’s operating expenses. To how much of the fiduciary responsibility are they entitled?

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          Now there you go again,, polluting the dialogue with facts…..

          1. Stephen Haner Avatar
            Stephen Haner

            Check the deeds, folks. 🙂 Check who owns the capital assets. 🙂

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            So, I stood there staring at the sign, “Employees Must Wash Hands Before Leaving”.
            Waited nearly an hour before one came in.

          3. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Not including the endowment and investment properties, of course. A fiduciary also evalutes risk and not just accounting.

            As for the deed, it’s insured..

        2. Seeing how the University is an agency of state government, which means that the state owns it, and that the state provides some financial aid to students attending UVa (over and above the state support for higher education), and that the state provides state-backed, municipal bond financing for UVa’s capital improvement projects, and that UVa is a nonprofit entity paying no taxes, I’d say UVa is 100% responsible to the Virginia public.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Just a note. If they owe 100% of their fiduciary responsibility to the Va taxpayers then there is none for the alumni donors. I think you just cut your share value.

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            No taxes? Not entirely true. They entered into an agreement with C-Ville to pay RE Taxes on their commercial properties a few years back.

            So, when have they not acted as a proper fiduciary to the State?

    2. LarrytheG Avatar

      re: “….but that doesn’t mean that are looking out for the taxpayers, the students, or the public at large.”

      also doesn’t mean they haven’t been beating up their spouses and smoking dope either.

      Talk about “whataboutism”!

      pretty damned insulting

      It’s the name of the game in BR and with many so-called ‘Conservatives” these days… when it comes to government and institutions, even science.

      And these guys want to ‘govern’.

    3. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      I don’t disagree with you. My point is that they are being attacked, not for their actions, but for being “second rate” and for being “political hacks and ideologues”. For the most part, that is not the case. Your other observations are valid. I doubt that Bob Blue is going to spend much time trying to make waves at UVa. Also, I doubt that any governor is going to be able to find a lot of well-qualified folks who are not “out of touch” and are able and willing to put in the time and effort needed to ask the hard questions.

      “Deep State”? I am not sure whether that is an insult or compliment.

      By the way, I had a reputation of always asking questions at meetings. I remember one occasion when my manager and agency director were quite outdone when I raised a somewhat uncomfortable question with a legislator at a meeting. So, I would support you for a position on the SCHEV board, but I don’t think my recommendation will go very far with Youngkin’s screening committees.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        “deep state” …… 😉 means you’re defending
        the current system…. 😉 AND you are NOT a “conservative”…. you got cooties…

    4. sbostian Avatar

      I have been critical of Boards of Visitors for several decades. Qualifications of board members has never been a part of my critique. Rather, my objection has always been that Boards are incredibly submissive to the university presidents. In the rare case when members of a BOV attempted to demand accountability from a president (remember Teresa Sullivan’s epic conflict with Helen Dragas) the demanding Visitors are pilloried in the press and in Sullivan’s case there was an uprising of students and faculty to denounce Dragas and Visitors who supported her. From a taxpayer and former faculty perspective it has always seemed that the BOV’s job is to function as a cheerleading squad for the incumbent president and the governor who appointed them. Oversight is and has been a joke for at least the 3 decades I have lived in Virginia.

      In answering the question of who is looking out for the interests of taxpayers, students, parents and the Commonwealth as a whole, it seems that the answer is no one. My mind could be changed, but it would require real data that could stand the scrutiny of independent analysis.

  7. Fred Costello Avatar
    Fred Costello

    Nice work. Thanks. Lawyers and those connected with real-estate are very well represented. I wonder how many Board members concern themselves with fund-raising and how many with educational objectives.

  8. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    Well the MyPillow guy ain’t there. A good sign?

    In the 80s, I set a low bar for politicians and public servants that they not be too crazy, that they not steal, that they keep it close to the truth with just enough details to make it believable, and when they get caught, or convicted, that they resign or not seek relection to give the next guy a chance at not getting caught.

    Without moving, the bar is almost too high to be achieved.

    1. sbostian Avatar

      One our rare points of agreement.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Which? The MyPillow guy or the high bar for politicians?

        1. sbostian Avatar

          The appropriate bar for assessing politicians.

  9. tmtfairfax Avatar
    tmtfairfax

    What is the difference between crony capitalism and crony rewards-for-campaign-contributions board of visitors seats?

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      no. no. The BIG question is, are the following folks “WOKE” and part of the problem?

      Whittington W. Clement (Rector)–Former member of the Virginia General Assembly, past president of the Virginia Bar Association, and Special Counsel, Hunton Andrews Kurth, a large, multi-state law firm with over 800 lawyers.
      Robert D. Hardie–Co-chair and CEO, H7 Holdings LLC, a private investment company.
      Robert M. Blue–President and CEO, Dominion Energy
      Mark T. Bowles–Chairman, McGuireWoods Consulting and Partner, McGuireWoods, probably the most influential law firm and lobbying outfit in the state.
      D. Britt, Surgeon–Eastern Virginia Medical School; President, American College of Surgeons
      Carlos Brown–Senior Vice President and General Counsel, Dominion Energy
      Frank M. Conner, II–Partner, Covington and Burling LLP, an international law firm and one of the top law firms in the country
      Elizabeth Cranwell–real estate professional, Roanoke
      Thomas DePasquale–Private investor, executive management and founder of several private ventures
      Barbara J. Fried—owner, Fried Companies, a real estate and development company in the Charlottesville area
      Louis S. Haddad—CEO and President, Armada Hoffler Properties, a real estate building, acquisition and management company for office, retail, and multifamily properties. Listed on the New York Stock Exchange.
      Barbur Lateef—Physician/Ophthalmologist
      Angela Mangano—Former soccer star for UVa and member of two Olympic teams. Real estate in California.
      James B. Murray, Jr.—Managing Partner, Court Square Ventures. Investment banker and venture capitalist. At one time, his net worth was estimated at $125 million.
      F. Payne—former Congressman. President, Three Ridges Group.
      Evans Poston, Jr.—Director of Government Affairs, Hunton Andrews Kurth
      James Reyes—Director/Principal, Reyes Holdings. Food and beverage distributors in Washington, D.C. area. Family firm; father and brother are listed as billionaires.
      Joel Hockensmith—Faculty representative. Associate Professor, Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics

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