A Dystopic Future of Road-Clogging Robot Cars?

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by James A. Bacon

Whether we’re ready for them or not, the United States will be flooded with self-driving cars (SDCs) within 10 to 15 years. Envisioning a future in which people subscribe to  driverless-car sharing services, some urbanists look to the future with equanimity: When people don’t need to own cars outright, they’re more likely to take mass transit more and use cars only for trips that require extra carrying capacity.

Others see driverless cars reviving the long-distance commute by allowing commuters to spending their time emailing or web surfing rather than focusing on the road. Then there’s Robin Chase’s nightmare vision of cities plunging into hellish congestion as robo-cars clog the roads running incessant errands for their owners.

As founder of car-sharing company Zipcar and peer-to-peer car-sharing enterprise Buzzcar, Chase has an interesting perspective. She wants to see car-sharing spread. She thinks it would be “thrilling” if SDCs morphed into a form of public transportation owned by municipalities, rental car companies or ride-sharing companies. When people use shared-car services for trips where only a car will do, they are more likely to walk, bike or ride transit for other trips. Fewer car trips equates to less congestion and pollution.

But Chase shared her fear at Internet Week in New York City last week that people will purchase SDCs and send them into the streets to run errands on their behalf. As Issie Lapowsky sums up her argument in Wired, “Why walk 10 blocks to the dry cleaner, when your car can drive there and back on its own? And who cares if traffic’s terrible at that time of day? Cars don’t get impatient.”

“The future of autonomous cars that are personally owned is a nightmare,” Chase said. “I’m going to venture, 50 percent of the cars in the street will have no one in them.” Ultimately, this could wipe out potentially more efficient services like taxis, busses, Uber, Lyft, and yes, Zipcar. “It’s going to take all of them out,” she says.

Chase raises a possibility that cannot be ruled out, but I don’t see the nightmare scenario transpiring. First, there will be many errands that Self Driving Cars cannot perform. For instance, not many people will send their car to Kroger and let their milk and chicken sit uncooled in the car trunk until they get off work. Neither will people send their cars to Lowe’s to choose a suite of patio furniture. Second, when SDCs do pick up the laundry, they will replace trips in which drivers would have picked up the cleaning themselves. SDCs won’t create new trips; they’ll substitute trips. Indeed, one could argue that the proliferation of SDCs could displace errands that are tacked onto a commute from rush hour to less congested times of day.

I’m open to other views but, at this point in time, I just can’t get panicked about our streets getting overrun with robo-cars.


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6 responses to “A Dystopic Future of Road-Clogging Robot Cars?”

  1. larryg Avatar

    I think the mistake in the thinking is in thinking that self-driving cars would be used in only one way.. as a replacement for an existing vehicle and our record as humans considering how technology would be used is totally bad.

    I’m surprised, for instance, that companies like Uber have not already been thinking about how to “dispatch” self-driving cars rather than all the problems and issues with human drivers.. background checks, insurance, etc…

    here’s a thought. How many two-car families actually have 3 cars ?

    why? because when one of the other two goes down – and both work – what happens?

    or.. think about those places that are on the fringe of transit and people currently depend on Faux Transit or TINO – transit in name only – or taxi cabs?

    in terms of groceries and cleaners and all those “problematical” errands.

    think about cars with onboard refrigerators…or trunks or storage that locks and can only be unlocked with the right combo on your smartphone.

    I think – people – average people do not think ahead on these issues but creative entrepreneurs do and they are not only way ahead of ordinary people, they are way ahead of conventional business models as well as the government.

    In fact – it’s more than likely that self-driving cars will “prove” themselves FIRST by carrying non-human cargo..for a few years.

    and those cars are going to be festooned with onboard cameras – to nail to the wall – the dumbasses who would claim to have been harmed by one of them. In fact, I see a spin-off for police to use these cars as eyes and ears for violators… reported in real time as the scofflaws engage in bad behaviors.

    and if you think that is wild.. consider a self-driving car with a drone on board that can be launched … for a variety of reasons…

    I’m telling you – ordinary humans just do not consider the possibilities when it comes to new technologies.. but smart people – do.

  2. billsblots Avatar
    billsblots

    ” at this point in time, I just can’t get panicked about our streets getting overrun with robo-cars.”

    “ordinary humans just do not consider the possibilities when it comes to new technologies”

    But we should become concerned about our streets being overrun with robo-cars equipped with turret mounted weapons and stun guns. The vision of science fiction over the decades and last century has come true freakishly often, although almost always considered impossible at the time of publishing. Hostile conflict between judgmental cylons and the human race is likely inevitable. larry’s alluding to drones or driverless cars being used in law enforcement is a convenient first step. Human police no longer will have to endanger themselves in the many high speed chases, many documented and viewable on youtube. These drones and driverless cars will be programmed with a decision tree (“thought process”), which will be the early and unwitting basis for future self-aware drones to eliminate humans who appear rowdy or anti-establishment. Oxygen-breathing weaklings will succumb to the sterile logic of our electronic overlords, ironically the very thing we created them with. Or else. Like larry said, smart people see this coming 🙂

    1. larryg Avatar

      re: ” to eliminate humans who appear rowdy or anti-establishment. Oxygen-breathing weaklings will succumb to the sterile logic of our electronic overlords, ironically the very thing we created them with. Or else. Like larry said, smart people see this coming :)”

      OUCH!

      you can’t hold back technology.. but we can and should put limits on law enforcement – along the lines of “partaking of the poisonous fruit” …

      but for myself – I’m sick and tired of watching idiots these days whether it’s playing with a cell phone or passing someone then cutting back in front of them to make the exit ramp.

      It’s gotten out of hand. people are craven savages.. at times…

      we can’t stop the technology – and one more thing – we’re not the first generation to encounter technology and have to learn to deal with it – it started with Adam and Eve!

      but if I see one more person screwing around with their cell phone on their steering wheel at highway speeds, I’m going to form my own drone business to catch them in the act and burn their sorry butts.

      😉

  3. billsblots Avatar
    billsblots

    By the way, that actually was a compliment at larry, for these things are coming. I also have wished I could launch something at the many idiots on I-95 paying little attention or respect to the other drivers.

    1. larryg Avatar

      re: ” I also have wished I could launch something at the many idiots on I-95 paying little attention or respect to the other drivers.”

      we agree more than we disagree as I too fear law enforcement – at ALL levels of govt – going overboard.

      and I too think giving ANY POTUS the right to kill someone is a concern but you’ve got to admit – the POTUS did not start doing that when drones were invented. It’s just now totally out in the open.

  4. larryg Avatar

    Good GOD Bill!

    I worried more when folks met with the POTUS to hold people incognito and torture them!

    seriously – I agree with you premise.. I just think it’s a historical continuum…

    do you remember an archaic quaint little term called “wire tapping” ?

    http://people.howstuffworks.com/wiretapping3.htm

    had absolutely nothing to do with ANY modern POTUS.

    have you ever thought about license plates and what their fundamental purpose is and why you must have one on your car?

    all of this has been going on – for a long, long time.. and as technology evolves, law enforcement adopts it – and the SCOTUS – not the POTUS tries to sort it out.

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