A Different Approach to Opening Schools

By Dick Hall-Sizemore

I am struck by the contradictions of some people on this blog. On the one hand, they are terribly troubled, even outraged, by what they see as liberal indoctrination happening in our schools (here and here, for examples). On the other hand, they are outraged at the prospect that the schools may be closed due to the pandemic (here and here, among many others). I suppose these contradictory positions can be rationalized with the idea that liberal indoctrination is better than no education.

But I digress. It seems to me that rational thought is not being brought to this confusion over the opening of the schools. I would like to pose a solution that I have not seen considered.

First, let’s start with what we know or have some evidence for:

  1. Virtual education is difficult for young children. They have short attention spans. They are not disciplined. They learn better from hands-on instruction. It is harder to design virtual education instruction for them. Many parents are not equipped, educationally or temperamentally, to assist young children with virtual children
  2. Virtual education is easier for older children. They are used to computers. They can be more disciplined. It is easier to design virtual courses for them. In fact, there are a multitude of such courses already available.
  3. Young children should not be left alone in the home. Virtual education will be a real hardship for single parents with young children, as well as for two-parent families in which both parents need to work.
  4. Older children can be left in the home alone for long periods of time. For example, kids as young as 13 often baby-sit for siblings or are hired by adults to baby-sit.
  5. Evidence from a recent large-scale study in South Korea indicates that younger children (0-9) are less likely to be infected by coronavirus and there seems to be a low likelihood that they will spread it.
  6. Evidence from that same study indicates that older children (10-19) are more likely to be infected and their likelihood of spreading it is the same as it is for adults.

These factors seem to point to a situation in which kindgergarten and elementary schools are opened for in-school education. On the other hand, high school classes would be conducted on-line. The dilemma lies with middle school  (13-15 year olds). I would say, “Take a chance.” Allow this group to attend in-school classes.

This approach would be simpler. The students needing in-school class the most (K-middle school) would get it. Teachers would be safer; they would not have to interact with the higher-risk population. Teachers would not be burdened with having to prepare both in-school lessons and on-line lessons. Parents could plan better. There would be some situations that could constitute a problem, e.g.  high school kids without adequate access to the internet. But, I think they could be worked out a lot easier than those problems posed by hybrid programs, all virtual programs, or all in-school approaches. It is not a perfect solution, but nothing is perfect in this situation.


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21 responses to “A Different Approach to Opening Schools”

  1. ksmith8953 Avatar
    ksmith8953

    Great idea. I would let middle schoolers use virtual learning. Middle schoolers are very social so the virtual learning would work well if they had opportunities to work with each other virtually. They have few social distancing boundaries. Bless them, my favorite grades to teach.

    This solution would solve many problems. Seems like they almost had this down as a solution when summer school was suggested for 3rd grade and below. No stats on if this, where it occurred, and did it set off outbreaks.

    We get carried away in equity for ALL. So we try to think that everyone has to have the same dose, every day, some days, all virtual. Some teachers having to go to a building and some not is the problem. So do I require you to climb a ladder with a broken leg because everybody else climbs a ladder?

    I have been following Prince George. The have looked at the number of buses needed for an elementary run and middle/high run. It is included on their web site. This idea of yours would certainly work. Bus drivers and teachers would be employed.

  2. Eric the Half a Troll Avatar
    Eric the Half a Troll

    And the young kids could spread out across the unused schools so as to allow for adequate social distancing. I think this may be a good approach if we see this virus continue past the fall. The fall semester is simply such a big unknown and has been hyped as the time of the second wave (it may very well be) that schools are unlikely to take the chance on opening full-time at that point. Fairfax and Loudoun already decided the answer is no.

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      That’s a good idea. The only drawback would be the need to hire extra teachers and there would not be enough time to do that for this year.

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead V Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead V

        The class size of virtual courses could be increased or you could add more sections to teach per teacher for the high school level. Take the extra high school teachers and shuffle them down to in person instruction at the elementary and middle school level. Offer incentives to gain some buy in from the high school teachers. My license is good until 2019 and it endorses me to teach K-12. I would be a good candidate for this. Most high school teachers are endorsed 6-12 grade. Many middle school teachers hold the license for elementary as well. A great big shuffle but it might work and save some big time cash on staffing your model. Good thinking Mr. Dick!

      2. ksmith8953 Avatar
        ksmith8953

        Not necessarily, there may be enough teachers if the classrooms were shared and a classroom support person was hired. I teach in two rooms and the students aren’t left alone.

  3. ksmith8953 Avatar
    ksmith8953

    Great point. Hadn’t thought of the use of other buildings! May increase the cost of cleaning, but certainly better for young children. Maybe use a large high school to take the place of two elementary schools.

  4. Fred Woehrle Avatar
    Fred Woehrle

    Dick Hall-Sizemore is right (as usual) about focusing on reopening elementary schools.

    There is an additional reason for reopening elementary schools even if other schools remain closed: lower transmission rates among young children than among teens.

    Studies suggest that young children transmit COVID-19 less than teenagers do. There may be cases of teenagers transmitting the virus to each other. But no documented cases of a child transmitting COVID-19 to a teacher. And young children seldom transmit it to each other, although they contract it from adults in their family.

    A study by the university hospital in Dresden, Germany found schoolchildren rarely spread the coronavirus.

    A recent article in Pediatrics, the peer-reviewed journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics, said kids seldom transmit Covid-19 to each other or to teachers, so schools should try to reopen.

  5. ksmith8953 Avatar
    ksmith8953

    This idea would be loved by parents who need to go back to work!

  6. WayneS Avatar

    That sounds like a workable plan. For high school, though, I would suggest scheduling the on-line curriculum so that a week’s instruction is completed in four days of the conventional school week. It will mean some extra instruction time over those four days, but I don’t think it would be too great a burden on anyone.

    The fifth day would be reserved for in-school instruction for students who have difficulty with on-line learning.

    There would be no new material covered during in-person class sessions. Teachers would devote this day to reviewing the previous week’s on-line lessons in a face-to-face environment for those students who are struggling with the material. Class sizes for in-person assistance should be smaller than a normal class since some/most students would not need the additional assistance.

    This plan would certainly be more difficult to administer than using 100% on-line learning but I think that overall, students would be better-served by it.

  7. ksmith8953 Avatar
    ksmith8953

    Just a little bit of thought and this much thinking was produced. School boards need to think through this plan. It needs to be published somewhere they can read it. Maybe the Virginia School Boards Assocation. This is a win, win, win. Employment, education, and economic comeback.

  8. sherlockj Avatar
    sherlockj

    Dick, I agree with your plan. In fact I thought the Roanoke County school board might accept that option back in June. They were considering bringing back kids to school 5 days a week K-2 and a couple of the board members proposed to extend that to K-5 in school.

    It was put on the table and rejected by the majority of the Board of Education under pressure from some of the teachers and some of the parents.

    Some percentage of parents don’t want the schools open for in-school learning and insist that their kids must receive remote instruction regardless of what the school boards decide.

    Some percentage of the teachers don’t want their jobs to entail in-person instruction no matter what the studies say.

    A plan that was approved for the start of the 2020-2021 school year at a meeting July 15 that tried to avoid the worst of the pushback.
    – Students in kindergarten through second grade have the option to attend school in-person five days a week.
    – Students in third grade through twelfth grade will have the option to attend school in-person two days a week and receive online instruction three days a week.
    – All students have the option to receive 100-percent online instruction, if desired.

    I just wanted you to know that at least in Roanoke County, K-5th in-person full time instruction was considered and rejected.

    School board members all over the state have been put in no-win positions and they are scared of some of their constituents. The language in the school board meetings has gotten very confrontational. Ask any School Board member.
    No school board member wants to have her home surrounded by a mob with “killer” signs when some kid or parent or grandparent or teacher comes down with COVID, whether they got it in school or not.

    And each of us knows that is what will happen.

    1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
      Dick Hall-Sizemore

      I did not realize that Roanoke County had considered it. As far as I am concerned, the county ended up with the worst of both worlds.

  9. djrippert Avatar
    djrippert

    Effective online education is much more involved than simply filming a teacher performing his or her normal duties so a student can watch from the other end of telecommunications network. However, that was exactly what was done last spring. In some ways the suddenness of the COVID-19 pandemic left little time for implementing a competent distance learning program. However, the entire summer has almost passed and I’ve neither seen nor heard of any material improvements in the method of online teaching to be employed in Virginia public schools. It seems that the vast armies of ever-growing school administrators who could have tackled this problem have done nothing to improve online education.

    On another note, I am aware of at least one private school in Northern Virginia that intends to teach K-8 students with 5 days a week in-class education. They will use a hybrid model for high school students with 9th and 10th graders attending in-person classes on Thursdays and Fridays while 11th and 12th graders will attend Monday and Tuesday. Full-time virtual instruction is available to parents who choose that for their children. It seems that these schools have found a way to comply with Northam’s edicts about “medium hazard” work environments – you know, like chicken processing plants and K-12 schools.

    I am still waiting for the social justice warriors we send to Richmond to come up with some way to shut down private schools as long as the public schools in that geography use all virtual education.

    I also note that Virginia is now considered a high outbreak state (although not in the highest category) with a significant increase in cases. Oddly, the same critics who complained about “Republican governors” in other states reopening too soon seem blind to Northam’s increasingly obvious failure in Virginia’s reopening. Virginians traveling to New York will be quarantined by order of The Butcher of Albany. The sudden disinterest in Virginia possibly reopening too soon is kind of like removing statues of long dead philanthropists who served as privates in the CSA while embracing a governor who wore blackface, attended parties with people in klan robes and had the nickname Coonman in the mid 1980s. If it weren’t for double standards the left would have no standards at all.

    1. ksmith8953 Avatar
      ksmith8953

      The VDOE has been working on resources for online teaching. See http://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/c4l/virginia-learns-anywhere.shtml

  10. LarrytheG Avatar
    LarrytheG

    re: “Northam’s failure” – compared to who?

    re: “in-person” for K-3 …. to middle

    I agree with Dick’s idea but for some reason not a single school system that I’ve heard of has advocated it. Do we know why?

    For the most part, I’m not sure if we really know the explicit conerns of the schools, at least to the point where they’ve not even considered the approach that Dick (and some others) have proffered.

    Some folks may want to continue to generally dismiss and impugn public education concerns – in general – I think that’s a mistake and insulting to boot. For all the guff the are getting – “in-person” means not with mom/dad but with a real teacher – then we diss them because theu have concerns … WTF?

    They been called leftists, social justice warriors, ideologues, etc, and more and now they’re awful because they don’t want to teach!

    IF you don’t like public education – so be it – but the current approach defies logic.

    1. djrippert Avatar
      djrippert

      NPR – read it and weep Larry. What color is Virginia?

      https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/16/816707182/map-tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s

      You’ve spent a lot of time over the last few weeks complaining about “Republican governors” who reopened too early and restarted the virus. Needless to say you ignored California, Spain, Hong Kong, Beijing and multiple other places that have seen resurgence after reopening. However, an honest accounting of what’s going on didn’t fit your leftist Gregorian Chant of “Death comes from Republican governors”. So you ignored reality.

      Now, reality hits you in the face. Not only are cases spiking all over the United States – they are spiking in Virginia too. Suddenly, the misleading rhetoric of “Republican governors” falls into the same dumpster fire of “white privilege” and other canards of liberal lunacy.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar
        LarrytheG

        Not sure you get it DJ. Even those states who believed the science and tried to take action but the “open up now” politics was against them.

        THe GOP governors disavowed the science and opened-up.

        The point is the virus is going to spread – that’s what the science says and yes, it spreads in the Dem states and especially California because young folks say even if they get it , it won’t kill them.

        The difference is the GOP states agree with that and the Dem states are more circumspect.

  11. Nancy_Naive Avatar
    Nancy_Naive

    Takes advantage of the best anecdotal data to date. Leaves open the issue of school lunch and nutrition programs, as well as the other safety and social aspects, but once settled on an approach to occupy space and times that can be fleshed out later.

    There is one big stick coming — evictions.

    1. WayneS Avatar

      Evictions? You mean, some localities haven’t been keeping current on the loan payments for their schools?

      1. Nancy_Naive Avatar
        Nancy_Naive

        Ooooh, that too.

  12. djrippert Avatar
    djrippert

    A sobering and well reasoned analysis of just how huge a penalty our children are paying for remote-only instruction …

    https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/public-sector/our-insights/covid-19-and-student-learning-in-the-united-states-the-hurt-could-last-a-lifetime#

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