6-Year-Old Shooter

by Kerry Dougherty

We’re not in the business of making predictions in this space. But with the police releasing precious few details about the near-fatal shooting of a Newport News first-grade school teacher on Friday, BY A SIX-YEAR-OLD BOY, we have a few guesses about what we will learn eventually:

This is complete speculation, but chances that this first-grade boy is the product of a stable two-parent family are slim.

Chances are he has witnessed violence, either through video games or in person, that have sadly turned him into a menace to society.

Given the tender age of the alleged perpetrator, cops are being stingy with details. Understandable. Yet the entire student body of 550 at Richneck Elementary School was terrified Friday afternoon when shots rang out. They, and the rest of the community, deserve some answers.

For instance: Where is the boy now?

Six-year-olds reportedly cannot be charged with crimes in Virginia, but they can be removed from their homes by authorities. Hopefully that happened immediately.

The question remains: What sort of home produces a 6-year-old child capable of taking a loaded gun to school and shooting his teacher?

At the very least his parent/parents/guardian should be charged with child endangerment for giving him access to a loaded firearm. And let’s hope prosecutors spent every waking minute since the shooting exploring ways to charge the adults with attempted murder and a host of gun charges.

I’m a Second Amendment supporter. That said, it is critical that loaded guns be kept out of the hands of unsupervised young children.

And no, more gun laws will not stop this sort of horrific shooting. A reckless adult allowed that kid to get his or her loaded gun and take it to school to shoot his teacher, reportedly in the chest. No law could prevent that sort of negligence.

Those of us who have spent time with normal 6-year-olds find it astonishing that a child so young was capable of such an act of blood lust after what police say was an “altercation” in his classroom.

Few details about the victim in this case have been released.

But social media contends, and the president of James Madison University appeared to confirm, that the teacher was Abby Zwerner.

Most of Abby Zwerner’s Facebook profile is private, but it appears that the pretty blonde with a radiant smile graduated from JMU in 2019. She earned a master’s degree there in 2020. She was a member of Delta Gamma sorority and has a twin sister who is also a teacher.

According to officials she is in stable condition.

We pray for her full recovery.

We also pray that someone is held responsible for the horrific injuries she suffered Friday afternoon while she was simply trying to teach a class filled with first-graders how to read.

This column first ran in Kerry: Unemployed and Unedited and is republished with permission.


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75 responses to “6-Year-Old Shooter”

  1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    “They, and the rest of the community, deserve some answers. For instance: Where is the boy now?”

    Nope, neither you nor anybody else deserve such information. To think you are somehow due it is exactly what is wrong with the media today – especially its extreme fringe.

    And since you know nothing at all about this case… something you readily admit… you have no idea if gun regulation may have prevented it. We may never know but there is certainly no information available to support your statement to date.

    1. killerhertz Avatar
      killerhertz

      Au contraire. The fact that details haven’t been released by the police and media tell me everything about the parents and child.

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        I would ask you enlighten us all in what you think you know about the parents and child… but really your comment already served that purpose by itself…

      2. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
        energyNOW_Fan

        A few months back, there was a very interesting but fatal (for the carjacker) incident in NoVA. Police seemed to try to give vague update for 11PM news and then complete silence. I learned what I could from social media (and it was very intriguing). I suspect the racial implications could have been interesting but we never heard the full story – not even the partial story. And the press seems to cooperate with the silent treatment we (the public) get, I bet they knew the whole story.

        OK I’ll blurt it out, from the social media, (take with this with extreme caution), it would appear teenagers from DC came over to hijack a car, and may have picked an off-duty officers car. I am *guessing* the officer must have been same race as the hijackers, otherwise this would have been national news. It seemed to be an out-of-state car owner, and maybe even female.

        1. killerhertz Avatar
          killerhertz

          We’ve seen this pattern before with “white males”. This became obvious w/ the Rittenhouse trial (underage white male). Corporate press even tried to tail and dox the jury b/c they were so obsessed with a conviction for an innocent man.

    2. Kathleen Smith Avatar
      Kathleen Smith

      Eric, thanks for this. Too much speculation does no one any good. Justice for the teacher could be threatened and justice for the six year old is in jeopardy as well. I pray for both of them.

    3. And yet the left wants instant information after every police shooting. And, as we have seen with ‘hands up – don’t shoot’, etc. fills the gap with lies which become the ‘truth’.

      1. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        Keep in mind that it was JAB who reported the “breaking news” of this incident without details on this blog. Now he appears to be calling for more information and less speculation. If y’all haven’t noticed, BR is not a left platform.

        1. I was replying to Eric who said we didn’t have the right to the information.

          You’re right that BR is not a left wing platform – opposing views would not be allowed if it were. I say that from experience.

    4. Randy Huffman Avatar
      Randy Huffman

      Kerry said more gun regulations would not stop the shooting and you say “you have no idea…”. You may have a valid point, we would need to know more details.

      But I have seen at least 3 articles where writers opined this shooting is more proof we need more gun regulations, having nothing concrete to offer or specific reasons. The reality is many of the Left (including a lot of MSM) always respond to a shooting claiming more regulations are needed, and usually they have no idea what they are talking about.

      My money is when the dust settles, Kerry will be right, but of course, pure speculation at this point.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Don’t you think if the issue is whether the Govt CAN restrict access (as opposed to should it) – that there are plenty of examples of things the govt has restricted access to , like machine guns, stinger missiles, nuclear material, etc.

        It’s POSSIBLE to restrict if the law says it is. RIght?

        1. The government can pass laws but people may or may not obey those laws.

          “It shall be unlawful for any person to recklessly leave a loaded, unsecured firearm in such a manner as to endanger the life or limb of any child under the age of fourteen. Any person violating the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.”

          https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter4/section18.2-56.2/

          We don’t need more gun laws. We need more awareness and compliance with the laws already on the books.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            but the point is the govt HAS passed laws that HAS restricted access to weapons – and effectively so
            and they apparently do “obey” them. How many folks go out and buy a Mac10 or a stinger missile?

          2. Firearms and the laws regulating them is clearly not your forte.

            The Stinger Missile example is ridiculous. Almost nobody even wants a Stinger missile, so the fact that they don’t buy one is no evidence whatsoever that everyone is knowledgeable about and obeys gun laws. Gang members and other hardened criminals clearly don’t.

            This is not binary.
            Some restrictions on guns are Constitutional, others are not.

            The problems with most gun control advocates are:

            Most know almost nothing about firearms.

            Most don’t have any clue what is already against the law.

            Most have no understanding of the Second Amendment.

            So they think if bad things happen, we must need yet another law.

            I can’t comment on the mother of the shooter because we know almost nothing about her.

    5. “Nope, neither you nor anybody else deserve such information.”

      We may not need specifics that would compromise privacy and safety such as the child’s location address, but the public definitely needs to know how public officials are dealing with the situation. How else can the public assess their competence?

      If public officials are hampered by laws or policies that don’t work, the public also needs to know that.

      When a child brings a gun to school and shoots a teacher, the opportunity for handling this discreetly is gone.

      Your comment was either unclear or wrong headed (in my opinion).

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        You think that the public should be told where this 6 year old is right now? That is what Kerry said. Sorry I am not the wrong-headed one here….

        1. Eric the half a troll:
          “You think that the public should be told where this 6 year old is right now?”

          Kerry Dougherty wanted to know where the boy is in a general sense to insure that the situation was being handled appropriately, not the specific address. But I think you know that.

          And as it turns out, we have since been told where the 6 year old is.

          “The 6-year-old was taken to a hospital, where he was given an evaluation and then put under court-ordered mental health treatment. He is still in authorities’ custody, receiving treatment at an undisclosed medical facility, authorities said.”

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/01/09/richneck-elementary-school-teacher-abigail-zwerner/

    6. I mostly agree with you.

      I disagree that we do not know whether gun regulation may have prevented the shooting.
      If existing firearm regulations did not prevent it, then no regulation short of a total ban coupled with backward time travel to prevent the invention of firearms could have prevented it.

      It is not legal for a 6-year-old to carry a handgun.
      It is not legal for anyone to take a gun into a school.
      It is not legal for one person to shoot another person except in self-defense.
      etc., etc.

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        If the law required that guns be stored under lock and key, for instance… can such a law be broken? Of course, but adding that requirement may have ensured the child never had access to begin with. Kerry says: “No law could prevent that sort of negligence” and that simply is not true. Just because laws can be broken does not mean we should not have laws. Now, IF the mother handed the child the gun to take to school… yes, there is no need for any other laws but if this is just lax storage and a clever child, a more proscriptive law may be beneficial and could help avoid a similar outcome in the future.

  2. Thomas Dixon Avatar
    Thomas Dixon

    Take God out of the schools and you get males in female restrooms and six year old boys who shoot their teacher.

      1. Your argument is that, because one self proclaimed religious school was evil, all religious schools are evil? I’m not sure which is more troubling, the thought that you may think like that or the thought that you may think we will be convinced to think like that.
        Regardless, the point which you failed to consider, is that God was not in that school. They were not following the precepts of the faith they claimed they believe. It wasn’t the presence of God, but his absence that caused the evil.

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          I always understood that God is everywhere. Now you say He was not in this school…🤷‍♂️

          1. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            So is Satan. Both act through people.

          2. I guess we’ll just have to add your misunderstanding of God’s presence to the list of other things you get wrong.

          3. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Mythology is really easy to misunderstand… alas…

          4. I guess you’ll just myth the bus to paradise.

          5. LarrytheG Avatar

            apparently by definition…..

        2. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          One? History is replete with atrocities committed at religious schools. I’ll let you research the events on your own, but I will play to your thoughts by reminding you that madrasas are religious schools too, some of which we would both oppose even with our polar opposite views.

          1. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            A madras is as islamic school. Are you saying they tend to teach violence against others?

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Soma do, and soma don’t.

            But I would be naught were I unfair. The top 5 religions in the US are Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, and Hinduism. Develop your Common Core Curriculum, and I’ll go with it.

          3. We remember the atrocities because they were the exception. There is no principal in Christianity that allows for the kind of behavior committed in those schools. Attempting to smear all Christians or their schools because of the actions of a few is an attempt to make the exception into the rule. It’s intellectually dishonest.

  3. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    I don’t find it “astonishing” that this child shot the teacher. However, I don’t think it was “an act of blood lust”. I don’t think children of this age really comprehend the potential consequences of shooting someone. They see so much violence–on video, TV shows, and movies. The bad guys in video games are shot with abandon. People in TV shows and movies, particularly in animated films, get shot, clubbed, stabbed, etc. without any apparent effects, except for falling down. A lot of times, there is no blood shown nor pain experienced by the victim. Also, on TV and the movies, people who are shot often keep functioning or recover quickly.

    For some reason, the kid brought a loaded weapon to school. Perhaps the teacher had disciplined the kid in the past and he was upset about it and figured he would fix the teacher if she tried it again. Who knows? Anyway, the kid had a gun and when the teacher told him to do something he did not want to do, he did what is done on TV, the movies, and video games: he shot the bad guy.

    The kid probably now realizes that he hurt the teacher a lot and feels badly about it. The real fault lies with a parent or adult that would leave a loaded gun around so that a six-year old had access to it.

      1. If a six year old wants to take a loaded gun to school to shoot zombies, then something is definitely wrong.

        I remember when my brother and I were that age. We watched lots of TV, but knew the difference between fantasy and reality. We also knew the difference between toy guns, BB guns and real guns.

        We lived on a farm where reality is continuously reinforced.

    1. In the 50’s and 60’s, westerns ruled at the box office and on TV. Every kid had his, and her, Roy Rogers gun belt and summer afternoons were filled with the kapowies of childish gun fights. We, too, shot the bad guys all day. I would suggest that the level of violence in the entertainment industry was at least equal to todays. Missing, however, was any thought that we could kill a teacher, or anyone else, with a real gun. Most Americans, and I include 99.99% of gun owners, still find such actions unacceptable.

      But I think you are correct in your underlying premise that culture matters. I’m just not sure that liberals are ready to have a discussion about where that leads. It seems they always want to blame the inantimate object.

      If the child feels badly about his actions, it’s more likely due to narcissistic concerns about his future than recogmition of the evil he did. Six yr olds are still very much in the narcissistic stage we all start out in.

    2. Matt Adams Avatar
      Matt Adams

      Ah the good old PMRC argument from 1985 that again will brought back up in 1999.

    3. killerhertz Avatar
      killerhertz

      How would you feel if the child said “that bitch deserved it” or something to that effect?

    4. The fault also lies with parents or guardians who do not provide any perspective to their children for the violence they see on tv, in video games, etc. It’s generally impossible to prevent exposure to these things, and most kids do not have such extreme reactions to it. Even so, an occasional reminder to a kid by a parent/guardian might help a child keep his/her perspective on violence: “We do know that what we’re watching here is make-believe and that in real life shooting or stabbing someone will hurt or kill them, right?” or “You know we don’t really shoot and kill people just because they make us mad, right?”

      I know this seems overly simplistic, but kids’ minds are like sponges and they absorb pretty much everything they hear, both good and bad. Parents juxtaposing the two for their child when the situation calls for it, and stressing the difference between fantasy and reality is important.

  4. Eric the half a troll Avatar
    Eric the half a troll

    I wonder if the teacher has already forgiven the child…

    1. You have no right to know that….

      😉

      1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
        Eric the half a troll

        Agreed! Notice how I did not demand an answer…

  5. This tragic case has engendered widespread interest and widespread speculation. But we don’t know enough to draw firm conclusions about much of anything. We don’t know if the kid came from a poor or a middle-class family. We don’t know if he was Black, White or Hispanic. We don’t know if he came from a broken family, we don’t know if he was abused at home. We can presume he obtained the gun from home, but that is only a presumption. We don’t know if the child bore a grudge against the teacher and brought the gun to school with a premediated intent of using it. We don’t know anything about the altercation that precipitated the event. Was it a case of the boy playing with the gun and the teacher trying to take it away from him?

    Other than to say that something is seriously wrong with a society in which a 6-year-old can bring a gun to school and shoot a teacher, whatever the circumstances, I would resist drawing any conclusions.

    However, Kerry makes some valid points. First, where is the child now? I’m not talking about what his current residence is or who his caretakers are. I want to be sure he’s not back in school until we know he doesn’t represent a danger to others.

    Second, authorities do need to inquire about the circumstances at home and ascertain if the circumstances justify holding the parents (or boyfriends of the mother) accountable.

    One observation I’ve heard goes to the heart of the problem. Most 6-year-olds have no idea of how to handle a gun. Someone must have taught him. If that’s the case, who taught him? To what degree is that individual culpable?

    Another question I would ask is if the child has anger management issues. Did he shoot the teacher with a naive, cartoon-like understanding of the consequences? Had he been traumatized at home and and frequently disrupt class with outbursts of anger?

    Whatever the answers to these questions, I expect they will reflect poorly on our society. But we just don’t know enough to say for certain.

    1. M. Purdy Avatar

      The mother was the source of the gun. She purchased it legally. Reported by multiple sources.

      1. Warmac9999 Avatar
        Warmac9999

        Probably for self defense.

        1. M. Purdy Avatar

          Against the teacher?

          1. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            My reference is the mother purchasing for her own self defense. The teacher probably never entered her mind – but an abusive boyfriend or neighbors did.

          2. M. Purdy Avatar

            Agree, so the gun was misused by her son, who should have never had access.

          3. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            Let’s put mom in prison. Let’s put six year old in special foster care with a decade or two of psychiatric assistance. And no religious training. Ah, a guarantee of success.

          4. M. Purdy Avatar

            Since you’re a big supporter of the second amendment, you should probably peruse the one before that regarding establishment of religion.

          5. Warmac9999 Avatar
            Warmac9999

            Religion was first in the first amendment. The founders reasoned that a moral society was predicated on religion.

          6. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            So your position is that the owner of a gun should not be held responsible if they are negligent in securing that gun and their child kills another person with it.

      2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
        James C. Sherlock

        Newport News is a tough neighborhood. Home defense is just being careful. Allowing a 6-year-old access to it is not.

        1. M. Purdy Avatar

          Yep, no argument there.

        2. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          America is a tough neighborhood.

      3. killerhertz Avatar
        killerhertz

        And no doubt the father is nowhere in the picture. See I didn’t even need a crystal ball in my prediction.

        1. Eric the half a troll Avatar
          Eric the half a troll

          Nope, just run of the mill prejudice.

          1. killerhertz Avatar
            killerhertz

            Don’t hate me because I’m smarter than you. I’ll also remind you that you went to the same conclusion mentally since you inferred I was being prejudiced. There’s nothing wrong with prejudiced btw. That’s how animals survive.

          2. Eric the half a troll Avatar
            Eric the half a troll

            Your prejudice is one of since a woman had a gun and the child acquired it, there is no father present. I will put it this way. If the report is that the gun was the father’s would you conclude that there is no mother present? As I said, run of the mill prejudice.

    2. I wrote the above before coming across today’s Virginian-Pilot update. We know a bit more today than we did yesterday. One important lesson: Early accounts of an event are often inaccurate. –JAB

      On Monday, police provided an update on her condition and the tragic events of that day.

      Police Chief Steve Drew said the 6-year-old student accused of shooting Abigail Zwerner used a 9 mm handgun that belonged to his mother.

      The first-grade teacher was in the middle of class just before 2 p.m. when the student suddenly pointed the gun at her and fired one round, Drew said.

      Drew backed off a statement made Friday that there was an “altercation” between the student and Zwerner before the shooting. “There was no physical struggle or fight,” he said, elaborating there was no argument between them, either.

      “What we know today is that she was providing instruction, he displayed a firearm, pointed it at her and fired a round,” Drew said.

    3. VaNavVet Avatar

      Now I can agree with you.

    4. I wrote the above before coming across today’s Virginian-Pilot update. We know a bit more today than we did yesterday. One important lesson: Early accounts of an event are often inaccurate. –JAB

      On Monday, police provided an update on her condition and the tragic events of that day.

      Police Chief Steve Drew said the 6-year-old student accused of shooting Abigail Zwerner used a 9 mm handgun that belonged to his mother.

      The first-grade teacher was in the middle of class just before 2 p.m. when the student suddenly pointed the gun at her and fired one round, Drew said.

      Drew backed off a statement made Friday that there was an “altercation” between the student and Zwerner before the shooting. “There was no physical struggle or fight,” he said, elaborating there was no argument between them, either.

      “What we know today is that she was providing instruction, he displayed a firearm, pointed it at her and fired a round,” Drew said.

    5. I wrote the above before coming across today’s Virginian-Pilot update. We know a bit more today than we did yesterday. One important lesson: Early accounts of an event are often inaccurate. –JAB

      On Monday, police provided an update on her condition and the tragic events of that day.

      Police Chief Steve Drew said the 6-year-old student accused of shooting Abigail Zwerner used a 9 mm handgun that belonged to his mother.

      The first-grade teacher was in the middle of class just before 2 p.m. when the student suddenly pointed the gun at her and fired one round, Drew said.

      Drew backed off a statement made Friday that there was an “altercation” between the student and Zwerner before the shooting. “There was no physical struggle or fight,” he said, elaborating there was no argument between them, either.

      “What we know today is that she was providing instruction, he displayed a firearm, pointed it at her and fired a round,” Drew said.

    6. Eric the half a troll Avatar
      Eric the half a troll

      “I want to be sure he’s not back in school until we know he doesn’t represent a danger to others.”

      Sorry, just because you are a “journalist” does not mean you are due anymore information than a statement that steps have been taken to ensure the students in this ES are safe and secure. That’s it – especially while an investigation is in progress. The hubris here is astounding.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        …and relentless…

    1. Thanks for the link.

      Wow! That teacher sure deserves praise based on what was written in the Washington Post article.

      “Abigail Zwerner was teaching a lesson Friday at a Virginia elementary school when a 6-year-old student pulled out a 9mm handgun he had brought from home, pointed it in her direction and fired a single shot, police said Monday.”

      “The bullet tore through the teacher’s raised hand and hit her chest, but despite the grievous wound, the 25-year-old managed to usher 16 to 20 students to safety from her Richneck Elementary School classroom in Newport News, police said.”

  6. M. Purdy Avatar

    We had a six-year-old shoot a teacher in school. This on top of two mass murders committed with firearms in the closing months of 2022. Think about that. A rational citizen would look at these events and demand the govt. do something about it. A rational administration would look to do something to help the health and safety of its citizenry. Instead, we have an AG and governor who’ve decided to commence an investigation into why some third-tier merit awards, with limited bearing on college applications, were sent out late by some high schools in Fairfax County. This is a massive dereliction of duty, political misdirection, and catnip for the right wing. Welcome to the new Old Dominion.

    1. Warmac9999 Avatar
      Warmac9999

      Who said anything about race. This is about replacement of citizens and subjects. By the way, black folk are hurt the most by replacement. Economics counts.

  7. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
    energyNOW_Fan

    I am going to postulate, Virginia police departments (and other Virginia officials eg COVID deaths in nursing home) tend to want to say ZERO to the public, because part of the “Virginia Way” seems to be massaging of info to the public. But we no longer have a vibrant news media/newspapers, and for some of us, what media we do have is committed to the Liberal religion politically correct style.

    Anyways without vibrant and neutral news media, Virginia officialdom needs to consider saying more than zero all the time, perhaps needs to be more proactive in giving out some basic facts.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      Maybe consider how information about Uvalde or Moscow, Id was handled when comparing?

      1. energyNOW_Fan Avatar
        energyNOW_Fan

        well, Idaho when first I heard the story here in Virginia, it sounded like local yocal Keystone Cops messing up. I was wondering, is FBI involved? I assume if you lived locally, you probably would have realized FBI was heavily involved. But there is a big difference between keeping quiet to protect the investigation, and keeping quiet for reasons of local politics and protecting ones butt. There is a huge tendency to keep the public the heck out of it, for the sake of protecting official’s handling of the situation. I feel *perhaps* Idaho could have communicated a little better and at the same time protect the investigation.

        1. LarrytheG Avatar

          I agree. I’m just saying it’s fairly widespread these days and disagreement about what should be withheld or not and in both Moscow and Uvalde’s case , false information provided, either accidentally, or on purpose, not unique to Virginia at all.

          1. killerhertz Avatar
            killerhertz

            Cops gonna protect cops

        2. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          Big kudos to Moscow, ID PD. They, the State and FBI worked quickly and quietly while the local PD took a lot of national heat. If they were really playing the local yokel card, it was played well. They did better than most of the big city cops that retire to Idaho.

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