Tuition, Room, Board and Fees Up 7% Next Year at Tech – Zero Cuts in Massive Administrative Overhead

Letitia “Tish” Long

by James C. Sherlock

From The Roanoke Times

Faced with inflationary pressures and state budget uncertainty, the school’s Board of Visitors voted unanimously to markup overall student costs by about 7%, increasing tuition and fees, plus room and board.

It was not an easy decision, said Rector Tish Long.

”This is one of the most important and most difficult decisions that this board has had to make,’ Long said. ‘This is a very difficult decision, and we did and continue to take everyone’s comments into account.’

Rector Long did not mention how easy it was to not cut administrative overhead:

  • No data required;
  • No difficult discussions;
  • No strained decisions;
  • No dispirited looks from the University President;
  • Let’s break for lunch. Early.

Tech’s Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer, who would be the one to recommend cuts, is enthusiastic about that school’s “Administrative Transformation” project.

He notes that he has an Administrative and Professional (A/P) Faculty job architecture project underway. Alas, the obstacles include:

Currently there are over 2,400 A/P faculty positions with over 1,800 unique titles. This lack of structure creates inconsistent pay and titling practices — which can unintentionally create pay equity issues — as well as makes it difficult to benchmark salaries to the external market.

It makes it quite difficult to make cuts when the University COO has no idea what all those people do.

It is hard to know whether to laugh or cry when reading:

What the (architecture) project will do[Read it at the link – sharing it here is embarrassing].

What the project will not do

  • Reorganize organizational units;
  • Change salary or benefits of existing A/P faculty;
  • Change working titles of existing A/P faculty;
  • Change duties or responsibilities of existing A/P faculty positions;
  • Change reporting lines or supervisors of existing A/P faculty. [Emphasis added.]

Even that is a “multi-year effort.” To change nothing that matters to anybody drawing breath at Tech.

The Tech board is apparently satisfied by the multi-year deflection of their attention.

There is not a term acceptable in polite company to describe either the Tech administration or its board for such actions.

Bottom line. Until Virginia colleges and universities cut the costs of administration, which have been skyrocketing for decades, statements like the one from Rector Long mislead by omission.

Faux enterprise architecture projects, like the Tech shell game above, that guarantee up front that nothing will change are nothing more than measures to distract the boards and the taxpayers.

At great expense.

Ask next year’s Tech students and their parents.


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92 responses to “Tuition, Room, Board and Fees Up 7% Next Year at Tech – Zero Cuts in Massive Administrative Overhead”

  1. Teddy007 Avatar

    It is time to stop comparing administrative costs to undergraduate anything. What percentage of the administrators are there to fund raise, deal with graduate programs/grants//sponsored programs, or non-traditional students (online classes)?

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Costs, Teddy, costs. For all students. For all faculty whose time is wasted by endless meetings.

      That is true regardless of who pays the bills – parents, student loans, the state or the institutional endowments.

      1. Teddy007 Avatar

        When the federal goverment gives an university a research grant, a development grants, etc, the feds require a large amount of paperwork. That is some of those administrators and their number are indepdent of the number of undergraduates. If the university accepts Pell grants, then there is documentation that has to be submitted to the federal government. That has to be funded. Most administrators have nothing to do with DEI or critical race theory. It is a tell that one has no idea what one is talking about if that is mentioned in any complaint about administrators.

        1. walter smith Avatar
          walter smith

          Just ignore that the cost of education has increased at 4X the rate of inflation ever since the government decided to “help.”
          Too many rules. Too many administrators. Too many worthless courses. Too many kids there who shouldn’t be there – wasting their (our? if Biden’s immoral forgiveness goes through, but who cares about such a silly old thing as moral hazard – racist!) money…

          1. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Ron Reagan would smile at your revival of his canard.

          2. Teddy007 Avatar

            The most expensive schools have the highest graduation rates. The cheapest schools have the lowest graduation rates. Look it up. And a university is much more than undergraduate education. Many of those administrators have nothing to do with undergraduate education and are funded out of other revenue streams. State schools have gotten more expensive from the students point of view because state aid has been cut and today’s students demand a much different experience than previous generations.

          3. walter smith Avatar
            walter smith

            Which has what to do with the costs?
            More graduate so we charge more?
            Do the “customers” learn anything? Enough to justify the cost?
            No. As presently conducted, a scam. A money-laundering scam. A Left-wing, self-serving, dishonest, money laundering brainwashing scam.
            https://www.visualcapitalist.com/rising-cost-of-college-in-u-s/

  2. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    Alas, poor Sherlock is foiled once again in his campaign to decapitate DEI at VA’s colleges and universities bloated by alleged “Massive Administrative Overhead”. Read for meaning, the “obstacles” cited appear more like a thumb-nail assessment of the task. Further, the author fails to report that the review is intended to rationalize both retention and recruitment of faculty.

    Finally, unless Sherlock has first-hand experience in higher education management, especially recruitment and retention of faculty, no such reform will succeed without the support of the faculty as a whole.

    This article is a massive failure in reporting.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      You wrote: “No such reform will succeed without support of the faculty as a whole”.

      Here are the steps to success:

      – Five hundred administrative positions are eliminated.
      – The incumbents are no longer receiving pay or benefits.
      – Fifty million dollars saved … every year.
      – Success.

      You think the faculty are going to what? Strike? Over fewer administrators? Fewer meetings?

      You are the attorney. See § 40.1-55. Employee striking terminates, and becomes temporarily ineligible for, public employment.

      1. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        Well then, Sherlock, cancel faculty positions. You offer strike as a consequence in your usual rotten bait polemic. The character and success of any higher Ed institution relies upon the faculty including its honored traditions of tenure, academic freedom, and self-governance. That model is not within the military experience or ethos. So you and JAB can call upon Bing and slash and burn strategies as you will. It won’t make for better or more effective HE institutions. Grievance culture or politics about DEI notwithstanding.

        1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          I believe you just offered an opinion that the management and administrative structure of Virginia Tech cannot be made more efficient if the university likes what it has.

          That is exactly the way I feel about private colleges and universities.

          Do you recognize no difference in public universities?

          Are governments, parents and grandparents supposed to just throw money over the ivy adorned walls and not inquire how efficiently it is being spent?

  3. StarboardLift Avatar
    StarboardLift

    Watch for news in May about the % of students who will be offered financial aid, how ____ (VT, UVA, VCU, all of them) will boast of largesse to help disadvantaged students/families. The cat chases its tail in the unauthorized redistribtion of wealth. And not an ounce of pressure to cap spending.

    1. DJRippert Avatar
      DJRippert

      As far as I’m concerned, the unauthorized transfer of wealth being performed by public colleges and universities should be seen as an illegal tax. Intentionally charging some students more than it costs to educate those students is a tax. Using those tax proceeds to subsidize other students (who you have consciously undercharged) is a use of tax proceeds. Both should only be allowable through a vote of the legislature and a signature of the executive.

      Imagine this. The new head of the DMV and his or her advisory board decide that car registrations are too expensive for poor people. So, without any enabling legislation, that group decides to charge considerably more to register newer cars while using the excess money to charge less to register older cars. Why? Because as unelected bureaucrats they have decided that diversity of car ownership is hindered by socio-economic factors. The cowards in the General Assembly use their hands to cover their eyes, mouths and ears like the proverbial three monkeys. The opaqueness of the situation serves to protect the gutless wonders in Richmond from accountability for the hidden tax.

      College tuitions should be priced at cost. Whatever it costs to educate a student is what the student is charged – regardless of their socio-economic position. Then, the members of the General Assembly can overtly tax the wealthier citizens of Virginia in order to establish a fund to subsidize poor students. Come election time, some of those elected officials might have some explaining to do. Some might not get reelected, which is exactly what the framers of the US and Virginia constitutions wanted to see happen.

      1. Teddy007 Avatar

        The real money is from out of state students. They pay full retail and generally come for more affluent families.

        1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          No, Teddy, all of it is real money.

          1. Teddy007 Avatar

            A higher percentage of out of state students pay full retail costs and make few demands on the university. International students are even better since they pay even more. It is the in state kids from blue collar families that create the most issues since they will need the most financial aid and will have the least support from parents or families.

        2. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          Since every state has public colleges and universities, over-charging the out of state students doesn’t bother me as much as over charging the in-state students. The out of state students could choose to go in-state to avoid the out-of-state penalty.

          1. StarboardLift Avatar
            StarboardLift

            Agreed, but I am very disturbed by state schools raising the allowance of out-of-state/most profitable students they may take. Va Tech is holding with 78% Virginians, but all the state schools eye longingly at Alabama with its ~60% out-of-state windfall.

      2. Lefty665 Avatar

        Hey, it’s trickle down from the Federal model. Starting very soon, people with credit scores over 680 will pay a premium on their mortgages and those with lower scores will get a discount to be offset by the premiums paid by people who have been financially prudent. Apparently credit scores are another symptom of systemic racism. There was no more enabling legislation there than in your hypothetical example of the DMV.

        1. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          Another hidden tax dedicated to helping those who made bad decisions brought to you by the Señor Senile branch of the Uniparty.

        2. Unbelievable. How did our government go so completely insane?

          And yet, I am sure there are a few “progressives” who comment on this site who will rationalize this obvious effort to punish those who manage to live within their means. They will also most likely denigrate and insult anyone who opposes this latest slap in the face to the productive people who pay for our bloated government to continue finding ways to slap us in the face.

          On second thought, is our government insane, or are we the insane ones for putting up with this crap?

          And I’m sure I can find a way to lower my credit rating so as not to be penalized for being somewhat successful at earning and managing my money.

          1. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            We are a product of the Government that the Majority select, for better or worse.

            You could certainly replace all those firearms you lost in your boating accident, using top brands to do so and stop paying on them.

          2. Lefty665 Avatar

            I might be a little cautious about defaulting on payment to people whose business is selling guns.

            OTOH, restocking after an accident seems prudent.

            🙂

          3. Lefty665 Avatar

            I might be a little cautious about defaulting on payment to people whose business is selling guns.

            OTOH, restocking after an accident seems prudent.

            🙂

      3. James C. Sherlock Avatar
        James C. Sherlock

        For those who will consider your example about DMV charges out of the realm of possibility, that is exactly what the Biden administration plans to do with mortgages.

        See Biden Raises Costs for Homebuyers With Good Credit to Help Risky Borrowers at https://www.newsweek.com/biden-raises-costs-homebuyers-good-credit-help-risky-borrowers-1795700

        1. DJRippert Avatar
          DJRippert

          Good point!

  4. DJRippert Avatar
    DJRippert

    The answer is in view. Fire the academics who run Virginia’s colleges and universities and replace them with businessmen and businesswomen. People who understand how to control costs. People like Mitch Daniels –

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/04/mitch-daniels-purdue/606772/

    1. Agreed.

      Does it really require more than 13,000 employees? Seriously?

      While the primary campus is located in Blacksburg, Virginia, the university has satellite campuses and research stations throughout Virginia and the world and employs more than 13,000 people.

      https://www.hr.vt.edu/our-workplace.html#:~:text=While%20the%20primary%20campus%20is,employs%20more%20than%2013%2C000%20people.

  5. Bob X from Texas Avatar
    Bob X from Texas

    As soon as you understand that all education exists as a welfare program for liberals, education spending makes sense.
    Prove me wrong with woke leftist screech therapy.

  6. VaPragamtist Avatar
    VaPragamtist

    You mention Tech’s new COO in an article about administrative bloat.

    Let’s also look at the position she tried to hire as soon as started: she tried to hire a Chief of Staff at a salary range of between $175 – 225k annually. That’s more than most agency heads in the state make, for a CoS position, paid for through tuition.

    I’m told there were over 100 applicants (no surprise).

    What is surprising is this.

    The last section of the article mentions that they’ve appointed an interim CoS until a search can begin in the fall.

    So not one of the 100+ applicants was qualified?

    Or they’re trying to circumvent HR policy, say “thanks but no thanks” to the qualified candidates, and give this guy experience in the position, and then give him the position “because he has experience in it” when the search starts up again?

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Well done in breaking the code.

  7. Q: What are the chances that all the upcoming “change” to the A/P “architecture” will result in a single position being eliminated or a even a single salary being reduced?

    A: Slim to None – And Slim just rode westward out of Blacksburg into the setting sun.

  8. This is nothing a few more ChiComm international students can’t fix at full tuition

  9. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    I just want to note that the Board of Visitors voted unanimously to approve the increases. That would include Gov. Youngkin’s four appointees.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      I did not bring up politics, Dick, but thanks. I knew someone would.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Not politics. Keyword: unanimously.

    2. VaPragamtist Avatar
      VaPragamtist

      Dick, I think this speaks to a deeper systemic issue at universities (and state agencies in general): the oversight is limited.

      BoVs generally don’t get into the weeds on budgets (or anything operational). They trust the figures the bean counters give them.

      APA doesn’t look for efficiency in their audits.

      OSIG only investigates fraud, waste, and abuse.

      There is no one looking out for efficiency. And you have an entity like a university that has total control over its own funding mechanisms.

      1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        I agree. But there has been so much anticipation by some commentators on this blog that the Youngkin appointees would begin to question and rein in higher ed expenses that I wanted to point out that, at least in this case, that is not happening.

        1. “So much anticipation by some commentators on this blog that the Youngkin appointees would begin to question and rein in higher ed expenses…”

          I will agree with you that Youngkin appointees have done almost nothing to rein in higher expenses. For the record. I have consistently described how university administrators manipulate their boards by controlling the flow of information and stacking the board agendas. There’s also the reality that Youngkin appointees still represent a small minority on every board. There’s no chance of Youngkin appointees accomplishing anything until they achieve board majorities, and even then change will occur only if someone takes a leadership role in opposition to the college administration. After seeing the character assassination of Bert Ellis, I suspect that many people will not be willing to risk the shredding of their personal reputation and, indirectly, that of their employer.

          1. Stephen Haner Avatar
            Stephen Haner

            I spent four fruitless years fighting that battle over costs as a member of SCHEV. Very lonely. Thought about asking for another go, but the urge went away.

  10. Virginia Tech, like every other university in the country, suffers from a massive “agency” problem.

    From Bing search results: “An agency problem is a conflict of interest that happens when one party (the agent) is expected or hired to act in the best interest of another party (the principal), but does not do so because of their own benefit or disagreement. This can occur in any relationship where an agent performs a task on behalf of a principal.”

    In Tech’s case, the administration is the “agent,” which has been hired to act in the best interest of the citizens of Virginia, as represented by the Board of Visitors. But the BoV has been co-opted like nearly every other BoV in the state. With little effective counterweight, we would expect the administration (the agent) to look after its own interests first, which is entirely consistent with the behavior that Sherlock has described.

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Jeez!! Another contribution concerning definitional management of the academy.

      It may be that the principal is the institution itself and the agent is the (unfortunately) co-opted BOV. The citizens of VA are represented by the Gov making appointments to the BOV as is the case in most states of the Union.

      In the case of VA, the Attorney General also appoints institutional counsel.

      1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
        James C. Sherlock

        Which means what to the bloat in administrative overhead?

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Polemics again! Bloat is fully your fantasy.

          1. Stephen Haner Avatar
            Stephen Haner

            The bloat is incredible, far worse now than when I left SCHEV eight years ago.

  11. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    Heading down to Blacksburg this weekend for a college reunion. I plan to quiz the college kids on how they feel about $530 per credit hour.

    1. Don’t forget to ask about the ‘student fees’ to support a passport office, bowling alley, and camping equipment rental program, among other entities…..

      1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
        James Wyatt Whitehead

        Student fees are seven pages long. Unbelievable.

        1. The complete list of fees fit on a single, admittedly double-sided sheet of 8-1/2 x 11 paper when I was going to Va. Tech.

          It appears that, on average, they have been adding one page of fees every 7-1/2 years.

        2. If memory serves, the complete list of student fees fit on a single, admittedly double-sided sheet of 8-1/2 x 11 paper when I was going to Va. Tech.

          It appears that, on average, they have been adding one page of fees every 7-1/2 years.

          1. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
            James Wyatt Whitehead

            It’s a little over the top. The VT brass zap you in many ways. Some of this will never even be used by students. Hokies will protest over this and that and the other be seem to care little about the cost of attending. The student body could shut the school down and achieve a reduced tuition. The trick is pulling together in the same direction at the same time.
            https://www.bursar.vt.edu/content/dam/bursar_vt_edu/fees/Description%20of%20Fees%202022-23.pdf

      2. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        Also, be sure to ask them what they think of those amenities. Would they be willing to give them up in exchange for a decrease in fees?

        1. That’s a good question. Maybe not completely meaningful since most of them are spending someone else’s money, but still a valid concern.

          When I was there I was 90% “on my own dime” and I would gladly have exchanged some amenities for a reduction in fees.

        2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          Are administrators amenities now?

          1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
            Dick Hall-Sizemore

            No. But the topic raised by kls was fees and I was responding to that.

        3. That’s a good question. Maybe not completely meaningful since most of them are spending someone else’s money, but still a valid concern.

          When I was there I was 90% “on my own dime” and I would gladly have exchanged some amenities for a reduction in fees.

          1. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            I only ever lived on Campus for a semester and moved off as soon as possible. While it wasn’t tech, it certainly saved me a great deal on paying the “room and board” fees.

        4. VaPragamtist Avatar
          VaPragamtist

          Let’s be careful to not confuse fees and tuition.

          But of the fees, the one being referred to with the examples is the mandatory Student Activity Fee (about 21% of mandatory fees).

          In addition to those amenities, it also pays for student organization funding. Approximately 35% of student organization funding (about $250k) goes to two groups: the Virginia Tech Union and the Black Student Alliance to put on a concert.

          This year the concert was City Girls, a popular rap group (I had to look them up too). Students also had to buy tickets at $20 apiece.

          VTU and BSA did include an expensive private meet-and-greet for their leadership with the band, against normal university funding policy (all events funded through student fees must be open to all students), probably by including it in the single contract.

          Would most students be willing to give up this in exchange for a decrease in fees? Probably.

          1. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Abolish student governments.

          2. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            Abolish students.

          3. VaPragamtist Avatar
            VaPragamtist

            Neither of those are student governments. They’re just 2 of the nearly 1,000 student organizations. But they receive 35% of the student org funding for all student orgs for 1 – 2 concerts (that students still have to pay for).

            My only point with this example is to respond to user KLS and Dick: setting aside tuition (which was the point of this article), and looking at mandatory fees (which are different), you still massive inefficiencies, even with keeping some of the amenities.

      3. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        And football team.

        1. VaPragamtist Avatar
          VaPragamtist

          Football and MBB generate revenue for all other athletics (I believe WBB is revenue-neutral, all other sports lose money), and contribute millions to the local economy.

        2. VaPragamtist Avatar
          VaPragamtist

          Football and MBB generate revenue for all other athletics (I believe WBB is revenue-neutral, all other sports lose money), and contribute millions to the local economy.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            So much for education. But, who does the work?

        3. StarboardLift Avatar
          StarboardLift

          Jim Koch pointed out long ago that ODU charged its online students a fee for the football cap ex…a facility that they would never see.

    2. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Inquire whether they are of the opinion that higher education is an obligation of society without charge.

      1. Why should I or anybody else care what any of them who are not actually paying taxes think about what “society” is “obligated” to do for them as regards their higher education?

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Once you offered a comment that you did not care that the voting in some states was the result of gerrymandering. Some, like me, care that our vote is diluted by those in other jurisdictions. You have a right not to care whether an educated citizenry is a societal goal.

          1. Right. Educated. That’s what’s happening to our children in our public schools.
            They are becoming educated.

            And I make no apologies for my support of Article I, Section 4 of our Constitution, nor for believing that the 9th and 10th amendments thereto mean what they say.

      2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
        James C. Sherlock

        “Obligation to society without charge”.

        If you mean society at large, which I do not think you do, society includes families. Families are obligated to raise and support their children.

        Society includes charitable foundations like endowments, but I don’t think you mean that either.

        I think that, having read you for too long, that by society you mean federal and state governments.

        Clarify please.

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          Nice try but your polemical bait has not thawed since you removed it from the freezer. At some point in the progress of this nation, it was an agreeable goal that education of youth was to be mandated. For it to be open to all, the common wealth was to bear the cost. Execution of the means to the goal fell to government the (as JAB would have it) the agent of the people.

          If or when (listen to the chorus about community colleges and workforce development) it is agreeable that higher education must be mandated, then the agent of society must execute that decision.

          And yes, society includes each and every person and institution as well as government.

      3. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        It’s not an obligation, it’s a privilege. With this and a host of other things you seem to have a hard time understanding what is a “right” and what is a “privilege”.

  12. LesGabriel Avatar
    LesGabriel

    I found this nugget in the Q&A section of the Project—“The university acknowledges the blurred lines between some A/P faculty and staff positions. These issues will be addressed after the A/P faculty job architecture is implemented.” Apparently any “unblurring” will not be part of the implementation. Left unsaid is how much the consultants will be adding to VT’s overhead. More than one student’s tuition worth, I am guessing.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      If an administrator teaches one class a semester, he or she can claim “educator” status. They are much better at gaming the system than the system is overseeing them. By design.

      I don’t need to make the point, the Executive VP and COO of Tech made it for me.

      He has no idea what the administrators he is paying do all day, and it will take him years (he wisely does not commit to how many) to sort it out.

    2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      If an administrator teaches one class a semester, he or she can claim “educator” status. They are much better at gaming the system than the system is overseeing them. By design.

      I don’t need to make the point, the Executive VP and COO of Tech made it for me.

      He has no idea what the administrators he is paying do all day, and it will take him years (he wisely does not commit to how many) to sort it out.

      1. LesGabriel Avatar
        LesGabriel

        By then, everything will have changed and they will need to start over. Good career protection for the consultants. Was that a competitive contract, by the way, or another no-bid contract?

    3. Nancy Naive Avatar
      Nancy Naive

      I see you used “unblurring” (in quotes). Just curious, were you surprised to see it not included in your spellcheck dictionary?

      Unblur, or the equally used deblur, appear in the popular online dictionaries, but I don’t think they are included yet in any of the major English language dictionaries as a distinct word.

      Surprising, ain’t it? Still considered just technical jargon.

      1. Careful, there.

        It is no longer sufficient to just support “unblurring”, one must also be “anti-blurring” or one is a bigoted hater…

        1. Nancy Naive Avatar
          Nancy Naive

          “And just a smear of Vaseline on lens, and your glam-shot will be complete, Mrs. Smith.”

  13. Ages ago when I went to college, part of the mission was to reflect and pass on positive values about how to conduct one’s life, treat people etc. It didn’t require a separate org chart full of high salaried specialists to do it.

    https://www.provost.vt.edu/content/dam/provost_vt_edu/inclusion-and-diversity/oid-org-chart.pdf

    Public Higher Education has lost its way. The goal shouldn’t be to find a way to employ as many PhDs as possible, and saddle parents and students with crippling debt.

    Public Higher Education should be primarily about giving students a quality education that will help the next generation to provide for themselves and their families.

    1. The goal shouldn’t be to find a way to employ as many PhDs as possible…

      But where else is a person with a PhD in “Educational Leadership” or “Educational Policy” going to get a job?

      😉

      1. And the follow-up question:

        Why are they paid so much?

        They must be paid highly so they can pay back all the student loans they took out to get their worthless PhD.

  14. Lefty665 Avatar

    “we did and continue to take everyone’s comments into account.”

    But apparently none of the comments were worth enough to offset any of the increase. I hope everyone who bothered to comment feels better knowing that their comments were not just summarily dumped in the trash, they were “accounted”.

    And it’s 1, 2, 3 they’re accounted for,
    I don’t give a damn, more fees for Tech Admin.
    5, 6, 7(%) open up the money gates,
    I don’t have time to wonder why, more high paying slots for DIE.

    (with apologies to Country Joe and the Fish)

  15. Lefty665 Avatar

    What’s wrong with this picture from Va Tech Principles of Community? https://www.inclusive.vt.edu/about/vtpoc.html

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2f55cffa9b7968a1186d8b9c147f650b7f0aa02cf63c3b7b855866f1795e5f4e.jpg

    It is over 70%, nearing three quarters, female. and over 40%, nearing half, black. There are no Asians or Hispanics of any gender, and few males. I am glad Tech is more diverse than it used to be, no longer just a haven for white farm boys and Asperger’s nerds stuck off in the boonies. Down to 1 in 7 is a surprise, but it is an affirmation that Tech has maintained at least a token of diversity. Now it is apparently the place for a few guys to go to meet educated women and get their “Mr.” degree, or some variation of hookup.

    Have future farmers and engineers really become so unrepresentative of the population of Virginia? Or if Tech’s illustration of its principles is unrepresentative of its student body, what are we to make of its writing?

    We reject all forms of prejudice and discrimination, including those based on age, color, disability, gender, gender identity, gender expression, national origin, political affiliation, race, religion, sexual orientation, and veteran status. We take individual and collective responsibility for helping to eliminate bias and discrimination and for increasing our own understanding of these issues through education, training, and interaction with others.”

  16. Donald Smith Avatar
    Donald Smith

    It’s probably time to adopt the Sheridan approach to Virginia’s colleges and universities: presume that everyone you encounter is an opponent, and burn much of what you see.

    When Sheridan went through the Valley in 1864, many people came up to his troops and explained that they were Mennonites, or Unionists, or noncombatants, and therefore their farms should be spared the torch. Sheridan’s reply: after the Wilderness and the Bloody Angle at Spotsylvania and Cold Harbor, the time for being discriminating has passed. Now, it’s time to apply fire widely. Stop this, once and for all.

    Am I proposing putting Virginia Tech to the torch? Not literally. But it appears there are way too many academics and academic bureaucrats in America’s colleges who feel they’re superior, and deserving of sinecures funded by the taxpayers. For years, BRand others have told them they need to clean up their act.

    Remember “Gladiator?” At the beginning of the movie, the Romans send an envoy to the Germanic tribes, offering one last chance to avoid the war. The Germanic tribes cut off the envoy’s head and sent his headless body, strapped on his horse, back to the Roman lines. Maximus, watching the scene, said “They say no.”

    If this is Virginia Tech’s response, then they say no.

    There’s probably not much more need for talking. I’d say we’ve reached the point where the reasonable and practical academics have had a chance to talk sense to their compadres’. Apparently they’ve failed to sway them. They want to be elites, and they want us to pay the bill.

    Um….naaah.

  17. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    What? Shouldn’t this have had immediate effect?
    https://vtx.vt.edu/articles/2022/07/bov-appointments-july-2022.html

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Quick quiz, Nancy. How many members of the Tech BOV?

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        About a dozen. But unanimously approved?

        1. What choice did they have?

          You forget that I too worked in Higher Education for over 20 years.

          The board can only act on the information presented, so here’s how it works. The administration goes into the meeting with a draconian plan for what they “must” do if they don’t raise costs. The plan purposely proposes the most painful cuts possible.

          With no documentation of who does what, or any other factual basis for making rational cuts, the cost increases are approved with the understanding that requested information will be forthcoming.

          At the very least, they just kicked the can down the road.

          1. Analogous to the list of “cuts” the federal government says they will need to implement if the latest “continuing resolution” is not passed immediately.

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