The VMI Questionnaire: Honest Inquiry or Stacked Deck?

by James A. Bacon

As part of its “equity audit” at the Virginia Military Institute, the Barnes & Thornburg law firm is conducting a survey of VMI cadets, alumni, professors and staff to gauge perceptions of racism at the military academy. The stated goal is to “better understand the environment and culture of VMI as an institution.”

But many VMI alumni are wondering if the real purpose is to generate data to support a predetermined conclusion: that VMI is a hotbed of racism. As part of its contract with the Northam administration, Barnes & Thornburg will issue recommendations to address the investigation’s findings. Not only are traditions surrounding the academy’s controversial Confederate heritage at stake, but so, too, are such core VMI institutions as the adversarial rat line and the single-sanction honor code.

A copy of the questionnaire was dropped on my doorstep late one night last week, and I have been examining it closely since then. Having had some experience years ago as publisher of Virginia Business magazine in composing readership surveys, I know how important it is to word questions carefully. After reviewing the VMI racism survey, I can see why alumni are alarmed. Given the way the questionnaire was constructed, the investigators could well find data to support whatever conclusions it wants.

Barnes & Thornburg is scheduled to issue a final report in June. To maintain credibility, the report needs to release the entire survey result, including cross-tabs. Outsiders need to be allowed to access the data to verify the investigators’ conclusions.

Here follow the flaws and limitations that struck me. Professional survey designers no doubt could find others.

Vocabulary. The survey contains a loaded term that has specific meaning to adherents of Critical Race Theory (CRT), which asserts that racism is endemic in American society. One question opens with this phrase: “Recent measures taken by VMI leadership to address issues of race and equity…” To most Americans, “equity” means something like “fairness” or “equal treatment.” In CRT-speak, the term amounts to “equality of outcome.” The use of this vocabulary is a clear tip-off of the investigators’ ideological leanings.

Sloppy wording. Several questions lend themselves to misinterpretation that will render any responses suspect. For example, the questionnaire asks if respondents support or oppose “reforming the Honor Court” system. The Honor Code has come under attack from The Washington Post for, among other features, its single sanction of expulsion and its drumming-out ceremony. Traditionalists might support “reform” of the Honor Code, but not for reasons cited by the Post. Some criticize the administration’s recent decision to cease announcing the name of honor offenders during drumming out ceremonies. Some would like to restore sanctions, not loosen them.

Hearsay. While the survey asks respondents if they have personally experienced racism or witnessed racism, it also asks if they have “heard” reports of racism. This is hearsay. Allegations of racism might provide leads for Barnes & Thornburg to investigate but are worthless as evidence.

Speculation. One question asks if “VMI leaders genuinely care about increasing the demographic diversity of the Institute.” Another asks respondents to agree or disagree with the statement, “VMI faculty care about getting the views and perspective of all types of cadets.” How would students or alumni know what VMI leaders care about, or whether that care is genuine? Mind reading is not a class taught at VMI.

Imprecise definitions. The questionnaire asks respondents if they have been “sexually assaulted” at VMI without providing a definition of what constitutes a sexual assault. As commonly used in other campus surveys, “sexual assault” can range from offenses that anyone would characterize as an assault, such as rape or sodomy, to unwanted touching. Respondents are, in effect, invited to supply their own definitions.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. One question asks if VMI cadets “socialize and hang out in groups that are racially integrated.” The first flaw in this question is imprecision. Respondents are asked to agree or disagree. How do they answer if, as is entirely likely, African-American cadets sometimes hang out in integrated groups and sometimes cluster with themselves? Whatever the answer, it potentially can be used against VMI. If cadets do not hang out in integrated groups, that can be used as evidence of hostility and discrimination.  If they do hang out in integrated groups, that can be cited as evidence that they are not given “safe” spaces where African-Americans can self-segregate.

Irrelevant questions. The survey asks respondents about background and beliefs that have no bearing on racism, sexism or bias at VMI. Examples:

“When it comes to a person’s ability to get ahead in our country these days, being white…. helps a lot, helps a little, neither helps nor hurts.”

Race relations in the U.S. are “generally bad” — agree or disagree.

Did you grow up in a military family? Do you consider yourself a religious person? Would your describe your political beliefs as liberal or conservative?

What possible light would answers to these questions shed? Is there a built-in assumption that conservatives, religious people, or those who don’t accept the premise of white privilege are more likely to deny the existence of racism at VMI?

Multiple formulations of same question. The survey asks about perceptions of racism in a dozen different ways. For example, one question asks readers to agree or disagree with the statement, “People of color have to do more than others to prove they belong at VMI,” and later to answer this question: “It is harder for people of color to succeed at VMI than it is for white people?”

Does diversity make the Institute stronger? Do VMI leaders care about increasing demographic diversity? Do white cadets disproportionately attain positions of leadership? Is the VMI campus welcoming to all types of people? Do people of color have to do more than others to prove they belong? Do cadets hang out in racially integrated groups? … And that gets us only halfway through the survey. Inevitably, responses will vary from question to question.

Question not asked. In its interim report, Barnes & Thornburg acknowledged an issue that would complicate any analysis of racist sentiment at VMI. Athletes enjoy exemptions from some of the arduous aspects of life as a cadet, such as drills, parades and inspections. Stated the report:

One source of tension among the cadets is perhaps not a direct issue of race, but appears to be intertwined with race: the divide between those cadets who participate in NCAA athletics and those who do not. While some alumni observed that “every cadet is an athlete,” alumni and current cadets often refer to this divide as a clear one between “athletes” and “cadets.” VMI’s student body is roughly 6% African-American. However, roughly 60% of African-American cadets are athletes.

Disentangling racism and resentment of athletes should be one of the central issues addressed in the investigation. But the survey ignores it for the most part, asking only if honor court decisions are influenced by a cadet’s athletic status, and whether cadet athletes are discriminated against. The survey makes no effort to ascertain the cadets’ attitudes toward athletes or how that resentment might be mistaken for racism. This is a monumental failure.Perceptions versus realities

. The most disturbing aspect of the questionnaire is the conceit that the perception of cadets, faculty, staff, and alumni tells us anything about underlying realities. We live in ideologically polarized times. People are smart enough to understand the political implications of their answers and adjust them accordingly. Furthermore, someone can perceive something to be true, but his or her belief does not necessarily make it so. For example, is the Honor Court biased against minorities? Members of the VMI community may form opinions based on highly publicized cases, or what they’ve read on newspaper articles, blogs, or social media. But their perceptions don’t tell us anything about actual guilt or innocence.

You can read the questionnaire here.

You can read my detailed notes on the questions here.

While one should not pre-judge how Barnes & Thornburg will treat the data, it is abundantly clear that the potential exists for the investigators to select the responses that best support their conclusions and downplay the rest. It is fair to ask if the law firm is an honest broker in pursuit of the truth or if it has an agenda.

To answer those questions, it helps to consider the client, the Northam administration. Governor Ralph Northam pre-judged the findings when announcing his intent to conduct an investigation in the first place. Stated Northam and other elected officials in a letter to the VMI Board of Visitors:

Black cadets at VMI have long faced repeated instances of racism on campus, including horrifying new revelations of threats about lynching, vicious attacks on social media, and even a professor who spoke fondly of her family’s history in the Ku Klux Klan. … This culture is unacceptable for any Virginia institution in the 21st century, especially one funded by taxpayers.

The charges levied by The Washington Post were accepted as valid with no need to hear conflicting viewpoints.

Shortly after writing that letter, the Governor’s Office issued a Request for Proposal, the terms of which it dictated to the nominal issuer, the State Council of Higher Education for Virginia (SCHEV). The RFP outlined topics the survey should cover (these are RFP quotes, but my emphasis).

  • “What are the current cadets’ perceptions of VMI across all dimensions of diversity?
  • “What are the perceptions of VMI by alumni from underrepresented groups when they were cadets?
  • “What are the perceptions of VMI from underrepresented groups now?
  • “Do alumni from underrepresented groups report perceptions of student achievement access to success after graduation?
  • “Do cadets of color perceive the policies, traditions, and culture of VMI to be racially insensitive?”

The RFP gives Barnes & Thornburg its marching orders. Although the questionnaire was distributed to cadets, faculty, staff and alumni generally, investigators were ordered explicitly to measure the perceptions of “underrepresented groups.”

What about Barnes & Thornburg itself? How will the law firm, whose Washington office is handling the inquiry, interpret its mission? Does the firm see itself as an impartial finder of fact? Or do the investigators see themselves as champions of social justice?

In a letter to Northam and other elected officials seeking the contract, Barnes & Thornburg Partner Roscoe C. Howard, Jr., highlighted the firm’s “unique, national commitment to racial and social justice.” Likewise proclaiming the firm’s dedication to racial and social justice, the firm’s website states, “We at Barnes & Thornburg wholly denounce racism in any form and seek to play a part, in whatever way we can, to address the burdens the events in Minneapolis (the death of George Floyd) have brought and the larger social forces that led to them.”

Howard was the lead author of the Interim Report, submitted March 8, of the Special Investigation Team.

One more piece of evidence suggests that Barnes & Thornburg might be more interested in crafting a “narrative” of VMI racism than impartially investigating the allegations. The law firm hired a company, Themevision, to conduct the survey. (This is known only because questionnaires were returned back to a Themevision email box.) States the firm’s website (Themevision’s emphasis):

As social scientists, we’re trained to know what questions to ask and how to ask them to get meaningful answers.

But we’re not just social scientists; we’re lawyers and communications specialists, data analysts and graphic designers. So we don’t stop with learning the answers, we show you how to use the answers to win the case.

We design science-based research to gather data and insights about your case. Then translate our findings into the simple language of stories that stick and strategies that win— in the courtroom and the court of public opinion.

Bacon’s Rebellion

reached out to the VMI Alumni Associations, but their spokesmen had no comment. Likewise, Barnes & Thornburg had no comment.

VMI spokesman Bill Wyatt said that Superintendent Cedric T. Wins has urged the full cooperation of the VMI community. The administration has turned over more than 50,000 pages of documents and has encouraged faculty and cadets to cooperate fully with the investigative team and in the survey. As for the questionnaire, Wyatt said only this: “We would expect any survey to adhere to academic standards and proper research design. Whether that’s the case with this survey or not, I can’t say.”

I asked Peter Blake, executive director of SCHEV, if the complete survey results, including crosstabs, would be made available to the public when the final report is issued.

“I do not know for certain the answer to that,” he said. “But most surveys, to the extent they get sufficient numbers of results, do have cross-tabs along the lines you mention. It really depends on the number of responses, which I hope will be high enough for such an analysis.”


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36 responses to “The VMI Questionnaire: Honest Inquiry or Stacked Deck?”

  1. Publius Avatar

    If you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail…

  2. Nancy Naive Avatar
    Nancy Naive

    It’s voluntary, so the results ain’t gonna be but so good unless they get participation percentages in the high 90s.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Based on the VMI grads I know, I expect those seeking to defend the Institute will send it back. If somebody wanted to put a thumb on the outcome, the first step would be selectivity in sending it out.

      Thank you for linking the document, Jim. Everybody: follow the link and read it. Yes it is 24 pages! I hope Jim has the FOIA letter for the full results with crosstabs ready to go, because they won’t part with it easily I expect.

      And all, ICYM, Bacon was on WRVA with Jim Reid this morning discussing this. You can probably find a recording at the station website or Reid’s Facebook.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Yes, I saw that. Somebody sends me 24 pages, it’ll be in the recycle so fast. The company’s financial statement was only 20 and by page 5, I was done.

        I don’t know if they could make it mandatory for current students and staff, but that would yield better results for that cohort. Alumni? Hmmm, good for background.

        Oh, and they used charged words, like racism and equity.

  3. James Wyatt Whitehead Avatar
    James Wyatt Whitehead

    The chicken is in the pot. All Northam’s people have to do now is bake at the right temperature and time. Cast iron Dutch oven will yield a tasty bird.

    1. dick dyas Avatar
      dick dyas

      Does anyone on here have any doubt what the conclusions of the report will be?

      1. sam elias Avatar
        sam elias

        I don’t, because there’s more than enough evidence that VMI has a race/gender problem and has for decades.

  4. Wahoo'74 Avatar
    Wahoo’74

    Jim, outstanding analysis. This is clearly a show trial with a predetermined outcome, reminiscent of Hitler and Stalin era systems of “justice.”

    That’s not showing my systemic racism. It’s understanding empirically analogous historical precedents when I see them. I hope VMI alumni contest the inevitable smear job in the courts.

  5. tmtfairfax Avatar
    tmtfairfax

    Don’t have a dog in this fight, but we should demand integrity from our tax-funded institutions, both VMI and the Governor’s administration.

    I have a good friend who has held high-level financial positions with major corporations, both here and abroad. He’s told me that he made significant use of consultants and generally found that they would produce the result desired by the hiring party. This was often good for many projects, but when he really wanted to know the truth, he would tell the consultants up front that he was not looking for any particular result but only what the facts were.

    It doesn’t look like the consultant was so advised. Nor is it likely that the MSM will look for the facts either. If it’s important enough to investigate VMI, why isn’t it important enough to find the facts and let the chips fall where they may? But because Northam is involved, I suspect integrity is not a goal of the investigation.

    1. sam elias Avatar
      sam elias

      How many people need to speak up over multiple decades for anyone to believe that VMI has a race problem?

      1. Keydet16 Avatar
        Keydet16

        Sam, as someone who spoke to the investigators and was treated pretty poorly by them (im a liberal POC) let me just say that we can definitely walk and chew gum and the same time here. These wapo articles have been heavily slanted, the investigation is a farce, the political leadership in Richmond are pathetic, AND VMI has racial issues that the school should and could’ve done a better job at handling.

        1. WayneS Avatar

          I think that is the most succinct and reasonable description of “the VMI issue” I have seen anywhere.

          Thank you for posting it.

        2. sam elias Avatar
          sam elias

          So let’s get down to brass tacks…you agree that VMI has racial issues that it failed to address..?

      2. Carmen Dominick Villani Avatar
        Carmen Dominick Villani

        God love ya Sam. How have you been? Keeping busy on my end and looking forward to celebrating the rising of my Lord and Savior this Sunday.

        Have you had a chance to review the Barnes & Thornburg report? Here are just a couple of findings from it:

        17 cases with a “racial component” in 6 years, 4 dismissed due to “preponderance of evidence,” punishment given for the other 13.

        “The only time I heard the N-word was said wa[s] by an African American cadet, [to] another African American cadet in a joking manner. I have never heard it in a derogatory way aimed specifically from a white cadet to an African American.”

        “In contrast to the experiences reported above, many cadets and recent alumni reported that they never encountered racial slurs during their time at VMI. Specifically, Caucasian, African-American, and mixed-race cadets from a range of recent classes (including ’97, ’06, ’09, ’10, and current cadets) stated that they never heard racial slurs such as the n-word or saw or experienced racial intolerance.”

        Contained in Exhibit D:
        “They have been class officers dating back to the 1970s, Honor Court presidents, Regimental Commanders, a Rhodes Scholar, and in 2019 a female Fulbright Scholar. African Americans have served on the Board of Visitors and the boards of the Alumni Association, Foundation, and Keydet Club.”

        VMI isn’t perfect Sam. No college or person is. I am not about to say that there haven’t been problems involving a “racial component.” What I and many alumni are saying is that it doesn’t amount to being structural or systemic.

        To you and yours, have a Happy Easter!

        1. Wahoo'74 Avatar
          Wahoo’74

          Carmen, you nailed it. Facts always trump feelings and bogus philosophical or politically motivated theories.

        2. sam elias Avatar
          sam elias

          Happy Easter, Carmen. I hate to point it out, but you’re selectively reading the report. Mind you, I don’t actually care one way or the other. But I would ask…you spend a massive amount of time denying incidents of racism. If you really gave a crap, wouldn’t you try to fix them instead of just denying them? Why are you so bent on denying the issue?

      3. tmtfairfax Avatar
        tmtfairfax

        So if there is evidence of racial problems at VMI, wouldn’t it be better to be documented in sound investigation that doesn’t use loaded questions? Can’t we operate at a level higher than that of the WaPo? And if we can’t, society is a lot worse shape than we think.

        1. sam elias Avatar
          sam elias

          Of course, but this is a *survey* about perceptions and attitudes. It reminds me of the types of surveys that employers give to employees about how they *feel* about their job. There are other ways that investigators obtain facts, including documents and interviews. Everyone needs to chill out and not jump to conclusions, ironic that it’s the every thing this blog is railing against. Also, for the 50th time, there is ALREADY evidence of race problems at VMI. Full stop. Facts, get them.

  6. William O'Keefe Avatar
    William O’Keefe

    Jim, you have done excellent work in bringing this to the attention of all who follow Bacon’s Rebellion. As someone else has noted, consultants are smart and will usually provide a work product that satisfies the client. The integrity of the final report will hinge of total transparency with all of the data released so that findings can be confirmed or refuted.

  7. This is a fair read of the implications of the VMI survey and the participants in the investigation.

    It is fair to conclude that if you hire a firm that trumpets its mission as rooting out racial injustice then they are inclined to see what supports their mission.

    There is nothing wrong with that as long as everyone knows that going in. These are not objective investigators looking for evidence; they are social justice warriors who arrive girded for battle.

    As to evidence, an objective investigator would be looking for evidence of the following nature:

    1. Evidence supported by fair analogy related to similar institutions;

    2. Anecdotal evidence — which the B & T folk appear to rely on almost exclusively

    [My favorite lesson on anecdotal evidence: 400 persons are at the beach and observe a meteor crossing the sky just before dusk and land in the ocean. A reporter interviews the 400 and 100% of them say the same thing — meteor across the sky ends up in the ocean.

    That reporter, on the basis of those interviews, writes a story about how that beach is a hot bed of meteor activity based on the uncontested testimony of 400 persons.

    In fact: 400 people saw the same meteor. There was one meteor, but 400 anecdotes. The number of anecdotes is not important.]

    3. Character evidence — particularly important if you allege a systemic or structural flaw

    4. Circumstantial or indirect evidence, the fellow traveler of anecdotal evidence

    5. Demonstrative evidence — a document or an object that speaks for itself

    6. Digital evidence — a kissing cousin of demonstrative evidence

    7. Direct evidence — such as the sworn testimony of a participant in an event with direct, first hand knowledge of the actual event

    8. Documentary evidence — documents such as plans or case files

    9. Exculpatory evidence — evidence that what one is looking for is not correct. Prediction: B & T will find zero exculpatory evidence.

    10. Forensic evidence — lab reports

    11. Hearsay — utterances of others heard by third parties, inadmissible at a trial, but still useful in a broad investigation

    12. Physical evidence

    13. Statistical evidence — either original or calculated from other data

    14. Prima facie or presumptive evidence that exists before the initiation of an investigation

    15. Testimony — sworn statements given under oath or during questioning or cross examination

    Many of these types of evidence overlap, but they also have a higher or lower authority based on their nature.

    In the VMI instance, the hurdle is much higher as the allegation levelled by the Governor is that VMI is a hotbed of structural or systemic racial wrongdoing which requires the identification of the system and evidence of some system wide collaboration.

    I think we already know what the final report will say.

    JLM ’73

    1. Carmen Villani Jr Avatar
      Carmen Villani Jr

      Excellent analysis!

  8. Carmen Dominick Villani Avatar
    Carmen Dominick Villani

    Thanks Jim for putting out this story!!! As many may know, the Governor of Virginia, a VMI grad and former President of the Honor Court as myself, came out with a letter back in October of last year putting forth serious charges of “structural racism “ and “appalling culture.” It was also signed by 10 State Government officials of Virginia. Not only that, the Honor System at VMI has been under assault as well.

    One must question why the Governor abandoned the practices he learned during his time on the Honor Court? At VMI, when potential Honor Code violations are brought to the attention of the Honor Court President, a thorough fact finding investigation is completed, with safeguards in place, before any charges are even considered. In this case, however, charges were made and then an investigation called for.

    The objectivity of this report should be questioned. Imagine a group of individuals make serious charges against your company. Your company denies those charges, so the group goes out and hires a firm to do an investigation. By the way, they are paying the firm $1 million. How can any objective, reasonable minded person believe that this firm will come back to this group making the charges and say you were wrong?

    Mark Twain had said that there are three kinds of lies – lies, damned lies, and statistics. Maybe we should consider a fourth being surveys?

    1. sam elias Avatar
      sam elias

      What is your threshold of proof?

      1. Carmen Villani Jr Avatar
        Carmen Villani Jr

        I am 66 years old Sam. I was born, but wasn’t born yesterday. Please explain to me how my hypothetical isn’t logical reasoning. In all honesty, I think you need to ask the Governor that question. After all, he is the one that is making the allegations and then calls for an investigation. Enjoy your day.

        1. sam elias Avatar
          sam elias

          All I’m asking is that how may minorities have to say that they were discriminated against for you to believe it?

    2. Wahoo'74 Avatar
      Wahoo’74

      Superb comment. Love the Mark Twain reference. Spot on.

  9. Posted on behalf of “a VMI alum reader”:

    I read your analysis of the investigator’s survey. I agree with some parts, disagree with others, but I did want to point out one issue with your piece: hearsay can indeed be evidence in court. There are multiple exceptions to the hearsay rules that allow for it, depending on the facts. Also, the judicial evidentiary standard is misapplied in a survey of this nature. (This is a mistake that many, many VMI alums make.) Hearsay is relevant to one’s perceptions, and may reveal additional issues that investigators should look at. Indeed, imagine had the press and investigators in the Penn. State scandal discounted rumors and stories as mere “hearsay” and not worthy of investigation. In any case, have a good weekend.

    1. I agree that hearsay can provide useful leads for follow-up. But hearsay, rumor and innuendo have no place in an official report, even if used as a metric of peoples’ “perceptions.”

    2. Carmen Villani Jr Avatar
      Carmen Villani Jr

      Let’s also consider the Duke Lacrosse players and what “hearsay” did to these young men. As you point out Jim, it may have some value into investigating, but not charging and punishing. You don’t destroy individual lives or colleges based upon “perception.” Bringing it full circle, I can’t even imagine myself charging an cadet for an Honor Code violation based upon “hearsay” and “perception”!

      1. sam elias Avatar
        sam elias

        What individual lives are being destroyed by the state investigation? (Other than the lives of minorities at the school as long as people like you remain in denial.)

        1. Carmen Villani Jr Avatar
          Carmen Villani Jr

          I am referring to the VMI Experience Sam. That experience offers an education unlike any other. In today’s society, there is a lot said about “diversity.” VMI provides that in terms of a type of education. Yet there are those in Virginia State government that seek to destroy it.

          Can you please explain to me how VMI has “destroyed the lives” of our current Superintendent, Gen. Wins, or retired 4 Star General Darren McDew, BOTH OF WHICH ARE VMI GRADUATES? You also might want check with Harry Gore or Dick Valentine, two of the first Black cadets to enter VMI and see if they believe the VMI Experience destroyed their lives as well. Then there is Michael N Lokale ’03, a Rhodes Scholar and Annika Tice ’19, recipient of a Fulbright scholarship. Still believe VMI destroys the lives of minorities?

          Unfortunately Sam, you chose to look at life thru the prism of skin color. I chose to do so thru the prism of character. I have recognized that VMI isn’t perfect. No college in this country is. Maybe it is long overdue that you start looking at VMI and see the amazing contribution that it makes to this nation.

          1. sam elias Avatar
            sam elias

            VMI is a state institution. If you’d like it to remain a club for Confederates, very simple, go private. And is it possible that all of those presumably black alums you named succeeded in spite of racism at the school? Like you, I also choose to evaluate people through their character. But that in and of itself doesn’t mean that other people aren’t racist. This is the clear fallacy in your logic. Your sole defenses seem to be that you’re not a racists, black grads succeed, and VMI is no worse than any other school. Really? All of those things can be true, and VMI may still have a huge problem on its hands.

          2. Carmen Villani Jr Avatar
            Carmen Villani Jr

            Your blindness to the goodness of VMI is something that prevents any attempt to engage in further discussion with you.

            I will celebrate the rising of my Lord and Savior tomorrow. God has used flawed individuals to do great things throughout time. VMI is flawed but it has done great things for this world!

          3. sam elias Avatar
            sam elias

            Fair enough, Carmen. I agree that VMI is a storied institution that makes amazing contributions to our country, but as long as that legacy is overshadowed by its embrace of values rejected by the taxpayers of Virginia, it won’t matter. Clean it up or shut it down. Pretty simple. In any case, Happy Easter.

  10. RevZafod Avatar
    RevZafod

    I took the survey and commented at the end that it sucked, as a one-size-fits-all piece of garbage.I graduated in 1962 and there were no Blacks or women there at that time. Had I ever heard derogatory terms at VMI? The cleaning crew were called “stoop n***ers”, but I grew up from that after a short time in the army.

    In my time there were a few foreign cadets, and I never saw them treated as anything but fellow humans.

    I’ve grown and learned a lot in the 58 years since I graduated, and I applaud the selection of a young woman as First Captain for next year; she earned it.

    In my opinion, the survey was a piece of crap.

    1. sam elias Avatar
      sam elias

      So you admit that racism was part of the experience 58 years ago. So it can’t possibly be now? You must be simply shocked, SHOCKED, at the current allegations!

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