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Existing Gun Laws Get Some Help from a Perp

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A Select Fire (Semi Auto / Full Auto) Glock 17 – credit: ENDO

by James C. Sherlock

This guy was better armed than the average citizen or cop. But just with a weapon. It did not seem to help him. Darwin was right.

From a DOJ news release:

Virginia Beach Man Pleads Guilty to Possessing a Machine Gun Used in a Shootout

NORFOLK, Va. – A Virginia Beach man pleaded guilty last week to illegal possession of a machine gun.

According to court documents, Shy’Quan Dodson, 25, possessed a machine gun on July 18, 2021. That day, Norfolk Police (NPD) officers were in the vicinity of the 900 block of Tunstall Avenue in Norfolk, where they observed multiple individuals shooting at each other. The individuals fled in three separate vehicles, and during the ensuing pursuit a firearm was tossed from the rear of the vehicle. After a 15-minute pursuit that ended in a crash in Portsmouth, Dodson was detained while attempting to flee on foot from the vehicle. The firearm tossed from the vehicle was a Glock with an attached component that converted the handgun into a fully automatic machine gun.

A search of Dodson’s cell phone showed photos of him holding the weapon, and a primer residue test revealed that Dodson had primer particles on his hands from the discharge of a firearm. Dodson’s phone also contained communications with another individual related to the buying and selling of machine gun conversion kits.

Dodson is scheduled to be sentenced on August 12. He faces a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison.

You have to be happy that the defendant:

  • apparently hit no one he was shooting at with his automatic weapon;
  • tossed the Glock with the attached full automatic component (see image) from the car with the police in pursuit;
  • wrecked his car;
  • attempted to flee on foot;
  • saved the conversation about buying the auto-fire modification component; and
  • kept cell phone pictures of him holding the weapon.

He pleaded guilty. Good attorney. The court system needs more defendants like that.

In New York, he would have been released on his own recognizance until federal charges were filed. In his case, I suspect that he quickly could have been grabbed up again.

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65 responses to “Existing Gun Laws Get Some Help from a Perp”

  1. Kathleen Smith Avatar
    Kathleen Smith

    Rest assured, he didn’t go to private schools. The kid needs awhile in solace to consider his fate.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Under the old Project Exile, he might be doing it behind bars in North Dakota. It worked, but of course they stopped it.

    2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      A third possibility is a dropout.

      1. Kathleen Smith Avatar
        Kathleen Smith

        We hold public schools accountable for those that dropout. Public school student.

  2. David Wojick Avatar
    David Wojick

    How much for the conversion? But in 3 sec it is empty. Need a cart full of clips.

    1. Stephen Haner Avatar
      Stephen Haner

      Can we send the gun and clips to some Ukrainian babushka?

    2. kls Avatar
      kls

      Glocks use magazines. M-1 Garands use clips

      1. David Wojick Avatar
        David Wojick

        I call them clips. In fact I have never heard them called magazines, but then I do not get out much. Is it a Glock thing or for all automatics?

        1. kls Avatar
          kls

          A magazine is a ‘box like’ storage & feeding unit which holds rounds for semi-autos and autos. ‘Clips’ are just what it sounds like – it clips the rounds together – no side walls.

          Glock is not an automatic, except the G18 [I think] which is a 9mm fully auto pistol. It was developed for Middle East royal family security personnel [according to my tour host] …. where ‘collateral damage’ is not an issue. IT IS A PAIN TO KEEP ON TARGET [got to fire one at the Glock factory in Austria].

          1. David Wojick Avatar
            David Wojick

            In my world semi-automatic pistols have always been called automatics, to distinguish them from revolvers. The Luger and 1911 Colt military were automatics. But I got my first pistol in 1954.

          2. kls Avatar
            kls

            a duck is a duck, not a goose…..firearms lexicon is just as precise

          3. David Wojick Avatar
            David Wojick

            Or “Though often termed “automatic,” the common semiautomatic pistol fires only one shot at each pull of the trigger.”
            https://www.britannica.com/technology/semiautomatic-pistol
            I am in the often group.

        2. vicnicholls Avatar
          vicnicholls

          ALL magazines are magazines, they are never ever called clips among any hunters, AR15 owners, handgun owners or any one else who actually has been taught, trained, and is still training with their weapons. Mags for short, but you don’t have a clip release, you have a mag release.

  3. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    What is the basis for your statement that in New York he would have been released on is recognizance. That state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, one of which is the subject of a case currently before the Supreme Court, which will likely rule against the state.

    At some point, we have to stop this madness and ban the manufacture, sale, and possession of handguns and semi-automatic rifles.

    1. David Wojick Avatar
      David Wojick

      Guns are fun. I love my guns.

      1. Nancy Naive Avatar
        Nancy Naive

        Personally, I love my spouse, but to each his own…

        Or, to reach his own — the fat man’s dream.

        1. David Wojick Avatar
          David Wojick

          I love my dogs, cats, horses, wife and guns, plus a bunch of other stuff. Ice cream for example.

          1. Nancy Naive Avatar
            Nancy Naive

            With me, ice cream is pure lust.

          2. David Wojick Avatar
            David Wojick

            I stand corrected.

      2. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        Hope you have firearm liability insurance insurance.

        1. David Wojick Avatar
          David Wojick

          Are you selling it? If not why do you care?

          1. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Concern for any injured or harmed due to weapon taken/stolen/lost from you. Same reason you have auto and home liability coverage.

          2. vicnicholls Avatar
            vicnicholls

            So you are saying that if someone has their car stolen from them, and the stealer uses it to run over pedestrians and they’re killed, the owner of the car, not the one who ran the folks over, is responsible for the killing?

          3. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Try reading carefully.

          4. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            Neither autos nor homes are protected by the US Constitution. Guns are protected. I know you don’t like that inconvenient fact but it is a fact.

          5. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Yes, and the Constitution does not mention marriage or abortion or one person, one vote or infrastructure and a zillion other things we enjoy. But roads are built for autos and commerce while the Fifth amendment protects private property (homes) through eminent domain. Very inconvenient facts.

          6. DJRippert Avatar
            DJRippert

            “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

            Insisting on insurance for guns and ammo infringes on the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

            There is no such language about marriage, one man one vote, etc.

            Therefore, there is nothing in the Constitution prohibiting the state from making laws about marriage, voting, etc.

            Liberals know they don’t have the votes to amend the Constitution so they scheme up ways to amend it without going through the amendment process.

          7. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            Marriage and Abortion have been argued and accepted under the 14th Amendment, equal protection clause.

            The rest of your statement is your standard, uneducated, illiterate BS.

    2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      I sincerely hope not.

    3. vicnicholls Avatar
      vicnicholls

      No we won’t. No one is going to stand for removal of the 2nd amendment rights. No one is going to stand for only criminals having guns.

    4. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      NY has also taken on the NRA with its firearm liability insurance scam.

      1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
        James C. Sherlock

        So the gang bangers are NRA members?

        1. James McCarthy Avatar
          James McCarthy

          No, sir, as you attempt to offer silly interpretation of my comment.

    5. Matt Adams Avatar
      Matt Adams

      The modification of the firearm was illegal, did it stop the individual from doing it? No, owning a select fire weapon is a hearty tax stamp and FBI background check, that’s if you can find one manufactured before 1986 and can afford the price tag.

      So again, you’re not going to stop a criminal from acquiring a firearm since they have zero respect for the law. It’s this type of thinking that illustrates people who shouldn’t be in Government, ever.

    6. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      The authority for the statement is the NYPD. https://nypost.com/2020/12/12/nyc-has-freed-more-than-3k-gun-suspects-in-2020-as-shootings-rise/

      1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
        Dick Hall-Sizemore

        In the examples provided in the linked article, the defendants were not released on their own recognizance as you claim, but after posting bail, sometimes of as much as $100,000.

        1. vicnicholls Avatar
          vicnicholls

          They can whine and get off on it. I won’t say what type of justice/judge, they will whine and get away with low amounts of time.

        2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          The New York Daily News AUG 24, 2020:

          “From March 16 to Aug. 17 of this year (2021), nearly half, or 47%, of people accused of illegal gun possession across the five boroughs were released without a judge setting bail — 442 defendants out of 945 walked, a review of records obtained from the Office of Court Administration shows”.

          See:

          https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-gun-possession-release-without-bail-rikers-island-shootings-20200824-m6b2ldvplbhkpdbtlqmgb462se-story.html#:~:text=From%20March%2016%20to%20Aug.%2017%20of%20this,obtained%20from%20the%20Office%20of%20Court%20Administration%20shows

          Any questions?

          1. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Stats are nice but do not prove your criticism. Illegal firearm possession is a long distance from the commission of a crime using the weapon. How many do you assert were released without bail for firing the weapon or using it in a theft or menacing another? What would bail achieve for possession of a $500 weapon delivered from Virginia? Two citations to Lame Stream Media on a conservative blog to justify a faulty initial observation is heretical.

          2. vicnicholls Avatar
            vicnicholls

            $500? Glocks cost more than that unless used. One modified like this would be more expensive. I’d suspect it was probably a 19 or 17, both of which keep their value as the 19 is the most popular gun, the 17 is in the top 10. 43x is a single line, requiring a $40 mag to convert to 16 rounds. That’s the top 3 Glocks.

          3. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Once again, you read more into the comment. Glocks for $500 we’re not mentioned.

          4. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “What would bail achieve for possession of a $500 weapon delivered from Virginia”

            Point on the black gun where the Glock hurt you, better yet. Tell the difference between a Glock and a Heckler and Koch.

          5. vicnicholls Avatar
            vicnicholls

            Or a IWI Masada. Israeli equivalent of the Taurus GxC line.

          6. vicnicholls Avatar
            vicnicholls

            and btw, how many actually get hit up for simply illegal firearm position when they didn’t commit a crime or are given a search in suspicion of a crime?

            That tells you right there something.

        3. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          Next case.

      2. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        Now that’s an unbiased source. Worse, the statement is in the NY Post dedicated to sensational news.

        1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          The NYPD is not an unbiased source? Send them a note.

          1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
            James C. Sherlock

            Try the New York Daily News article that I quoted for Dick.

          2. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            I am quite familiar with NYPD’s record including indictment of police union leader. The 38,000 member agency is in a constant political struggle for the welfare of its members creating and promoting opposition to reforms whether objectively beneficial or not.

          3. James C. Sherlock Avatar
            James C. Sherlock

            So you distrust both the NYPD stats and those of the Office of Court Administration. You must take comfort from that position. It does not cause you to change what you feel.

          4. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            Tiring of woke Righties attempting to read between the lines. The two sources fail to offer any detail whether the illegal possessions were also related to use of the weapons in another crime. Stop tap dancing and acknowledge that your hyperbole about NYC was misplaced and/or fallacious.

  4. vicnicholls Avatar
    vicnicholls

    This is well known. Modify the backplate off a Glock and it turns into an automatic pistol vice the normal semi automatic. You can attach a drum to an AR15 style rifle but unless you modify it, it is still semi automatic. An Uzi has a switch, it can also be automatic not a machine gun. If you practice and are taught by someone who knows what they’re doing, you can shoot as quickly and accurately that is not much off a machine gun. You can get extended mags that will hold as much if not more than a AR15 (including the 9mm AR15). Whooptie doo, this is nothing out of the ordinary. Not news.

  5. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    Why do woke Righties who may never have lived in NYC think it acceptable to slam the Big Apple to attribute the worst to it? Look inward, citizen, to the event you are describing. Commonwealth criminals are just as dumb as those in NYC. I lived and worked in NYC safely for 7 decades never uttering a harsh word about Virginia.

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      The article I wrote is about Virginia. Just saying. But Virginia

      1. James McCarthy Avatar
        James McCarthy

        Your closing comment was not about Virginia. Your faux citations are from NYC media.

        1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
          James C. Sherlock

          Again, James, the stats are from the NYPD and the NYC Office of Court Administration. But if you say it often enough, maybe they are not.

          1. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
            Dick Hall-Sizemore

            Don’t worry. The Supreme Court is likely to soon overturn New York’s law on concealed carry. Therefore, it will be much easier to get a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Perhaps, the Court will even rule that the state cannot even require one to get a permit. So, police will not be able to arrest and charge people for having an “illegal” gun. Then, these statistics about people being arrested for violating gun laws and being released will go way own.

          2. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            If you are a felony it’s still against the law for you to posses a firearm. If you’re under the age of 21 it’s still a crime for you to posses a handgun.

            There are laws on the books that clearly you don’t know or understand. It’s evident that should refrain from removing the foot from your mouth and read those first.

          3. James McCarthy Avatar
            James McCarthy

            I did not challenge that your sources said something other than what you quoted. Seems you are dedicated to their veracity without some further verification or inquiry. Not very rational.

          4. Matt Adams Avatar
            Matt Adams

            “I did not challenge that your sources said something other than what you quoted. Seems you are dedicated to their veracity without some further verification or inquiry. Not very rational.”

            Stop using 50 cents words you don’t know the meaning of.

  6. James C. Sherlock Avatar
    James C. Sherlock

    In New York, bail is imposed solely to ensure that people return to court; judges are not supposed to set high bail for defendants who they think might be a public safety risk. New York is the only state without a so-called dangerousness standard. Great being a dangerous perp in New York.

    1. James McCarthy Avatar
      James McCarthy

      Ill-informed keyboard bangers are equally dangerous to debate and discussion. NYC and NY State are distinct jurisdictions with differing standards. As noted in my original comment, personal knowledge can enhance insight. Collectively, your comments and responses are merely self-serving to support your wayward comment about NYC. Take a deep breath.

      1. Matt Adams Avatar
        Matt Adams

        Clearly this statement is about yourself, as you’ve shown and complete and utter ignorance on the topic at hand (not shocked).

        “Ill-informed keyboard bangers are equally dangerous to debate and discussion.”

      2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
        James C. Sherlock

        If you think NYC is in good shape, you are indeed a lonely voice. Even the mayor deplores conditions with bail laws and prosecutors there. You may wish to go back and ride the subway.

  7. kls Avatar
    kls

    So a criminal who shot up a mall, wounding many, gets out on $25K bail, gets to go home and wear a monitoring bracelet so he can go to work……… so much for penalizing ILLEGAL gun use!!!!!!!!!

    CCP – never leave home without it.

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