Dead Students, UVa, and the Virginia Freedom of Information Act – Part One – Only One Client

Clifton M. Iler
University Counsel and Senior Assistant Attorney General at the University of Virginia

by James C. Sherlock

Updated Dec. 18 at 16:30

The deck is stacked against the press, at least in the first step.

The University of Virginia, unsurprisingly, considers it not in its interests to release information to the press about the work of its threat assessment team in the case of Christopher Darnell Jones.

Mr. Jones, after that team failed to act, shot five people, killing three.

UVa’s Virginia Freedom of Information Act (FOIA, the Act) Officer works in the University Counsel’s office. The University Counsel’s job under Virginia law in civil matters is to defend the University. Protect it from things inimical to its interests.

The fact that this office also fields FOIA requests is and must be informed by that primary responsibility. That office will never knowingly break the law, but it will search it for provisions favorable to its client’s interest.

The office has only one client: the University.

Virginia’s FOIA law is dense. Most of its 48 pages are occupied with exceptions to the general duty to release information requested.

Agency attorneys are thus positioned to find an exception to repulse attempts at getting information that government agencies don’t want made public. Even if there is another part of that same law that arguably supports the request. The key modifier is “arguably.”

Such as information responsive to my FOIA request, which has been denied by the University Counsel’s office. I don’t blame them, I just disagree. They may prove right in the end. But the end is not yet here.

I will appeal to the FOIA Council, which contains Members of and works for the General Assembly. Different client.

If the information is ultimately to be released, we then will fight the next battle. Agencies get another bite of the apple. They get to make redactions they deem appropriate under the law.  

The University’s FOIA office has done nothing wrong.

Rather, I find a structural problem with a FOIA system that requires the press to ask an agency’s defense attorneys for information inimical to the interests of their clients.  And then lets those same attorneys redact prior to release.

It cannot work in favor of the freedom of information, so it doesn’t.

I am going to publish a series about my takeaways from this experience.

That at least you can read about.

Remember Peter Drucker’s famous five questions? The first one is, “Who is the customer?”

We delude ourselves if we think government lawyers have some higher duty.  The good ones do exactly what any ethical lawyer would do. They defend the client.

If a request comes in for information that their agency does not want made public, it is their duty to act in their client’s interests. We expect our own attorneys to find provisions in the law that help us and fend off those that do not. Why would we expect less of attorneys for the government?

The University of Virginia Counsel’s office has done its duty.

It has found a section of the FOIA law, § 2.2-3705.4. Exclusions to application of chapter; educational records and certain records of educational institutions that in its view allows it to reject my request. It quotes subsection A.(1) of that law.

§ 2.2-3705.4. Exclusions to application of chapter; educational records and certain records of educational institutions.
A. The following information contained in a public record is excluded from the mandatory disclosure provisions of this chapter but may be disclosed by the custodian in his discretion, except as provided in subsection B or where such disclosure is otherwise prohibited by law. Redaction of information excluded under this section from a public record shall be conducted in accordance with § 2.2-3704.01.

1. Scholastic records containing information concerning identifiable individuals, except that such access shall not be denied to the person who is the subject thereof, or the parent or legal guardian of the student. However, no student shall have access to (i) financial records of a parent or guardian or (ii) records of instructional, supervisory, and administrative personnel and educational personnel ancillary thereto, that are in the sole possession of the maker thereof and that are not accessible or revealed to any other person except a substitute.

I am not an attorney.

So armed only with the English language, I have found a section of that same law that arguably directly supports my request. In response quoted back to the University’s FOIA office subsection A.(8) of the same law.

A. 8. Information held by a threat assessment team established by … a public institution of higher education pursuant to § 23.1-805 relating to the assessment or intervention with a specific individual (is excluded from release).

However, in the event an individual who has been under assessment commits an act, or is prosecuted for the commission of an act that has caused the death of, or caused serious bodily injury, including any felony sexual assault, to another person, such information of the threat assessment team concerning the individual under assessment shall be made available as provided by this chapter, with the exception of any criminal history records obtained pursuant to § 19.2-389 or 19.2-389.1, health records obtained pursuant to § 32.1-127.1:03, or scholastic records as defined in § 22.1-289. (emphasis added)

The public body providing such information shall remove personally identifying information of any person who provided information to the threat assessment team under a promise of confidentiality.

The University Counsel’s office responded that it considers every piece of information, 65 by their count that are responsive to my request, to be scholastic records. Which they assert is defined so broadly as to make A.(8) above inapplicable to any student.

Which would make one wonder what the General Assembly had in mind in adding that provision after the Virginia Tech massacre.

We will find out.

Bottom line. The General Assembly has put in place an administrative body to go to for opinions on legal disputes between the press and an agency’s attorneys who refuse their FOIA requests. Its opinions are only advisory, but they matter.

It is the FOIA Council, a broadly representative and bipartisan body with the General Assembly for a client.

The Council can inquire what the original intent of A.(8) was when it was added.

Sen. John Edwards, who sponsored the 2010 bill which added subsection A.(8) to § 2.2-3705.4., is still serving.  His District includes Blacksburg.

Intent seems clear from the published Summary of Sen. Edwards’ 2010 Senate Bill 207:

Threat assessment teams; records. Authorizes threat assessment teams to receive health and criminal history records of students for the purposes of assessment and intervention, and exempts records of threat assessment teams from the Freedom of Information Act.

However, if an individual who had been under assessment commits certain violent acts, any records created by the team shall be made publicly available(emphasis added).

That bill was passed by unanimous vote at every roll call.

If ultimately the information is to be released, there will be redactions. Apparently by the same lawyers who oppose the release.

I have already been advised by the UVa FOIA office that redactions will be so extensive in this case as to make the information unusable. Because the threat assessment team discussed other students, whose information must be redacted.

Which would in turn seem to mean that the UVa threat assessment team never, on 65 different occasions which the FOIA office has identified, had a coherent discussion about Mr. Jones.

Which I hope is not true, and would in either event be of great interest to the attorneys representing the families of the dead and the survivors in civil actions against the University.

Which the University Counsel would defend.

There is justice in there somewhere.

But, again, the University Counsel has one client. The FOIA Council has another.

It will be interesting.

The update at 16:30 on Dec 17 reflects research into the original 2010 bill that added subsection A. 8 to Code of Virginia § 2.2-3705.4


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28 responses to “Dead Students, UVa, and the Virginia Freedom of Information Act – Part One – Only One Client”

  1. James McCarthy Avatar
    James McCarthy

    University Counsel, a senior officer, owes the job to the state’s Attorney General who appoints the UC. At this point, any info relating to the actions of university personnel or its TAT could contribute to liability claims against the U. Prudence on the part of University Counsel is warranted.

    1. LarrytheG Avatar

      ” any info relating to the actions of university personnel or its TAT could contribute to liability claims against the U.”

      Seems like that is the KIND of info that Sherlock is probably seeking…..

      He’s argued prior that the TAT has failed it’s legal duty so this seems to be saying: ” such info could be exposure to legal actions against us, so we don’t have to release it”.

      Am I understanding it wrong?

    2. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      That article was my way of agreeing with that sentiment and setting up my appeal.

      It is the FOIA system that is flawed, not his actions within it.

      The FOIA Council will have an opportunity to referee our dispute.

    3. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      The Attorney General himself has the responsibility to defend state agencies in civil matters. It is the reason he appointed an outside special counsel 3-person team (from California) to investigation UVa’s actions. One is former U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia

    4. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      That article was my way of agreeing with that sentiment and setting up my appeal.

      It is the FOIA system that is flawed, not his actions within it.

      The FOIA Council will have an opportunity to referee our dispute.

    5. James McCarthy:
      “At this point, any info relating to the actions of university personnel or its TAT could contribute to liability claims against the U.”

      If the injured parties get attorneys, won’t they have access to this information anyway? Isn’t their right to this information even greater than the public at large?

  2. LarrytheG Avatar

    Increasingly, the FOIA law is being used as a partisan weapon – both sides – and the targets of the FOIA requests are wise to the game and not inclined to play unless they are forced to.

    The Va GA does not seem inclined to do a bi-partisan approach to it other than to agree to more and more exemptions:

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    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      See my reply to Walter Smith.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        Some folks who seek FOIA are non-partisan, they have no political leanings or affiliations and their inquiries are not keyed to fishing for smoking guns to use as partisan weapons.

        The agencies that are the targets are not dumb. They see what is going on. They have their own duty to represent the interests of the agency, which in and of itself is not “wrong” unless they actually are doing something illegal and/or engaging in a coverup.

        So the media has submitted FOIAs to the Virginia State Police on it’s “failure” and as expected the VSP has taken the position that all of the info is not releasable.

        The one thing to also know in this situation and others is that VSP has hired thousands of troopers without “failures” of this top.

        So is this a one-off or a pattern of failures?

        I’d make the same statement about the UVA TAT AND the allied law enforcement.

        Clearly there is some issues involving who is responsible for what that has, in my view, been fostered by a perhaps too-hastily written law in response to the Tech shootings.

        It needs to be fixed , no question but heaping blame and calling for “accountability” really loses the focus IMO.

  3. walter smith Avatar
    walter smith

    I’m glad to have company here on FOIA and its frustrations.
    FOIA is not a “partisan” thing. It is a law, available to all. Unfortunately, we have a media that has lost interest in holding its “team” to account, so it only likes to use FOIA for partisan purposes, while citizens try to fill the void.
    UVA needs critical oversight. The BOV has abdicated its duties (again, under the Virginia statutes and the UVA Board Manual), so people like Jim Sherlock and Jim Bacon and sometimes me and maybe some others try to get to the bottom of what is going on at UVA.
    Meanwhile, UVA has $14 billion in controlled endowments, State funding and its own legal staff, who are trained in FOIA. It is not a fair fight for amateurs, but we learn as we go.
    I think UVA is clearly wrong here. But I also get it that UVA might not want to get this info out not just because it may make Jim Ryan look bad, it will increase the blame and therefore the liability. FERPA is sometimes used to shield bad things also. In this case, the TAT has been specifically defined as NOT a scholastic record. So UVA will now say there is info in there about students that is a scholastic record, so UVA will withhold. But, the FOIA regime also has a redaction requirement. Again, I cannot believe that redactions would be so extensive as to make the records worthless. I think it is a lame excuse.
    I don’t really hold out any hope for the FOIA Advisory Council. They are sort of like the Inspector General. They will offer guidance, but will not come down one way or the other on close calls or existing controversies.
    So then you have to go to Court, and again, unfair for Joe Citizen, which, on top of that, my experience has been the Judges show great deference to the UVA lawyers.
    Finally, there is no real punishment for not obeying the law. UVA or the State will pay legal fees and damages.
    Probably the best way to get this info out is embarrassment. The statutory language is pretty clear. The redaction language is clear. The public policy is that the request is presumed valid and the info should be disclosed, absent a specific exemption. I only see FERPA info on other students in the TAT and police reports, which I see no reason their “identifying info” cannot be removed.
    There is a FOIA Advisory Council opinion which I believe was wrong a few years ago over SAT scores. It said the County properly withheld SAT scores, which I think was ridiculous. 500 SAT scores in an 11th grade is “identifying?” One final thing in this regard, the Advisory Council Opinions are…ADVISORY. They do not have the force of law – it is their opinion only, and, I think a little bit, the Advisory Council plays for the home team (the State Government).

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      I disagree about the FOIA Council.

      In my formal request made today for review of the dispute, I presented it as an issue of original intent.

      I asserted that the solution would be found in the original intent of the 2010 bill that added the subsection (A.(8)) that addressed threat assessment teams and killers.

      That bill was sponsored by Sen. John Edwards, whose District includes Blacksburg. He is still sitting, so they can ask him directly.

      We get a pretty good clue as to intent from the Summary of the bill as passed: https://legiscan.com/VA/bill/SB207/2010

      ““Threat assessment teams; records. Authorizes threat assessment teams to receive health and criminal history records of students for the purposes of assessment and intervention, and exempts records of threat assessment teams from the Freedom of Information Act.”

      “However, if an individual who had been under assessment commits certain violent acts, any records created by the team shall be made publicly available”.

      That should provide a reasonable head start for the FOIA Council.

      I updated the article with that information.

      1. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        I think it is pretty clear without that bit of legislative history.
        Hmmm…did anything happen in Blacksburg where a State Senator would have interest in this fairly obscure FOIA matter? I mean, that ain’t an agricultural thing…
        (Sorry Hokies – had to take the free shot at the Eastern Institute for Enlightenment and Intellectual Observation…E-I-E-I-O!)

    2. LarrytheG Avatar

      It’s being used for partisan purposes as opposed to folks who have not partisan affiliations and are purely non-partisan.

      1. walter smith Avatar
        walter smith

        Larry – stop wasting everyone’s time. Can you point to any comment you have ever made that is not “partisan?” You are a broken record. My team good, your team bad. Blah blah blah
        You did make a funny once that was funny though…
        Meanwhile, I would like the same standards applied to all. That isn’t partisan. Free speech isn’t partisan. Questioning COVID policy (which was wrong and I know it and so do many others even though NO ONE in the media has any curiosity about all the strange young deaths or the weird fibrous things found in autopsies or the increase in disability and excess deaths which is strangely correlated around the rollout of the experimental vaccines…) isn’t partisan. That used to be called scientific inquiry…
        The UVA incident is a huge one of public interest and import. Yet people like Sherlock have to try to get to the bottom of it. Where is the AP? UPI? Va News Serivce? Daily Regress? Times Disgrace? ComPost? NY Slimes? No…just on “evil” conservatives (because we actually do have consistent standards, unlike Lefties whose only standard is power at any cost – see FetterBot, Katie Hobbs, KBJ on the Supreme Court, corrupted DOJ and FBI and on and on – that is the rot at UVA and higher ed in general)

  4. Dick Hall-Sizemore Avatar
    Dick Hall-Sizemore

    Of course, even if someone decides that you have a right to the material requested, with records over 65 different occasions, the University will charge you an arm and leg to produce the records. It will take a long time for well-paid staff to redact all those records.

    1. One step at a time. If he is successful, there’s always:

      “Best Crowdfunding Platforms”

      https://www.investopedia.com/best-crowdfunding-platforms-5079933

      I would contribute.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        even if they are investigating Youngkin?

  5. Jim Kibler Avatar

    The FOIA officer need only cite one exemption; there may be more. I can think of at least a few, and even then other laws, such as HIPAA, may apply.

    I get that everyone wants to know everything. Ultimately, however, our system of government provides for the judiciary to make the calls on liability, for the legislature to make the calls on policy, and for the governor to execute the laws.

    Insofar as I can ascertain, none of the bloggers on here constitute a quorum of any branch of government.

    Vote, criticize, vote. But this fascination with wanting to expose every single decision and all the data available to decision makers at every step is at real danger of making it impossible for government decisionmakers to do their jobs.

    A friend of mine, medical malpractice lawyer, spoke about this recently in the context of jury decisions regarding judgment calls physicians make in crisis situations. As it turns out, there is a demonstrable jury bias in favor of a physician who makes an informed, professional judgment that happens to go awry.

    In his view, he has decided to no longer take cases where there is any reasonable defense the physician could offer – because it is a waste of resources to do so.

    This is a decidely CONSERVATIVE approach – the judicial branch has long deferred to the legislature or the executive on any decision within their purview so long as there is a rational basis for the decision. Mind you, justices might disagree whether it was rational, but that underscores that not everyone need agree that it was so – just that a rational person would. (Exceptions for “heightened scrutiny” in cases such as effect on suspect classes.)

    The same applies in our civil jurisprudence, carried over from the Common Law of England – one cannot be held civilly liable for negligence if they acted as a “reasonably prudent person.”

    These are decisions that our republican form of government has handed off to branches of government, and to agencies with specialized competence, to administer for us.I know that doesn’t drive blog traffic or sell ads, but it is true.

    There will be a prosecution of the alleged perpetuator. The University and the prosecutor will rightly resist for litigation purposes the release of anything that could compromise that prosecution. There is already a third-party review underway, and the AG and the University will rightly resist the release of anything that could compromise that review.

    It’s just my heartfelt opinion that stirring the pot and diving in the muck has no good purpose toward either successfully prosecuting the alleged perpetrator or aiding the third-party review by a competent entity.

  6. LarrytheG Avatar

    Here’s something Sherlock could add to his list of “failures” that need to be “investigated”: (and my bet is that any FOIA he sends to DOC will be similarly treated as UVA and others)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/51095d019137d35af7dbf0b6880a40b80518fcdc1266739b38d4c6e54e23439b.jpg

    1. James C. Sherlock Avatar
      James C. Sherlock

      Thanks for the suggestion. I do my work pro bono. Your imagination has me spending my time and money at a record rate. I’ll pass on this one.

      1. LarrytheG Avatar

        One might have the instincts of a muckraker but the morals of a partisan. Could be better.

        1. What’s stopping you? Go for it Larry.

          Your statement applies more to you than Mr. Sherlock.

          1. LarrytheG Avatar

            I don’t have a “need” to “investigate” , assign blame and “accountability” everytime some “failure” occurs and certainly not on a partisan basis.

            There are processes in place to do this and they do function even if some are not satisfied with how they accomplish their tasks.

            I feel confident that a proper investigation is going to focus on how the process was/is supposed to work, why it did not, etc, as opposed to looking for individuals who “failed their job”.

            That may be the case after a legitimate investigation but we ought not start off with that premise. You want people to cooperate and help find the issues rather than being afraid and clam up/leave/etc.

            The law that formed the TAT created a problem in chain of command , i.e. who is responsible for what and when.

            The critics are claiming that somehow, the University and individuals are responsible for detecting potential “threats” from thousands of individuals by using what here-to-fore have been primarily law enforcement tools like gun registration and the types of searches that law enforcement would conduct for a search warrant that normally requires a judge to sign off on.

            There are a lot of issues to look at without starting off talking about who is the blame and how they will be held “accountable”.

            That will happen in the course of the inquiry but seldom in these types of issues is there ONE person – it’s a series of things and that’s what you really want to find out and fix.

            Blaming individuals preemptively is just not the way to get to the bottom and fix all the pieces and parts that need to be

          2. LarrytheG said:
            “I don’t have a ‘need’ to ‘investigate’ , assign blame and ‘accountability’ everytime some “failure” occurs and certainly not on a partisan basis.”

            Seems to me that’s exactly what you do, all day every day on this very site.

          3. LarrytheG Avatar

            Opposite. I RESPOND to a steady litany of such advocacy…from the usual partisan suspects.

            Like I said, there ARE processes in place and I do have confidence in them. I don’t have to a need to go on a jihad everytime some “failure” occurs.

          4. Matt Adams Avatar

            You’re wasting your breath with someone who exhibits zero self-awareness.

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